Gigs shot on film?

The Real Wizard wrote:

Great thread.

I'd like to add that the (disappointing) fact that the "Champions Shoot" concert was almost certainly not filmed.

Was you there?
I was, and I certainly would not make such a bold statement.
Your assessment seems to be based on a few screen shots that you point out are from Houston.
I can't honestly say what was filmed at Drury Lane, but I have attached a scan of a page from my copy of the 1977 (Winter issue) fan club magazine, some of which I underlined in red pen back in the day.
It seems to suggest the whole event was filmed.
Unlike you I'm not stating this is a fact of course.

http://preview.ibb.co/g2OPUz/Image1.jpg

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Unlike you I'm not stating this is a fact of course.

I said "almost certainly". That is not stating anything 100%.

Have you seen the uncut footage of the filming, where at the end of the final take of WATC the camera swings away and is shut off the moment Brian May begins to play Tie Your Mother Down? Did you even know it existed until you read that last sentence?

Maybe if you worked on your reading comprehension a bit more, you wouldn't need to waste your time airing personal grievances on a forum.

Keep it civil.

Of course one can't prove something doesn't exist, so you're not wrong to suggest that it may have been filmed. In this case there has been plenty of opportunity to show it in the recent documentaries, but all of the live footage has turned out to be from Houston.

The Real Wizard wrote:

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Unlike you I'm not stating this is a fact of course.

I said "almost certainly". That is not stating anything 100%.

Have you seen the uncut footage of the filming, where at the end of the final take of WATC the camera swings away and is shut off the moment Brian May begins to play Tie Your Mother Down? Did you even know it existed until you read that last sentence?

Maybe if you worked on your reading comprehension a bit more, you wouldn't need to waste your time airing personal grievances on a forum.

Keep it civil.

Of course one can't prove something doesn't exist, so you're not wrong to suggest that it may have been filmed. In this case there has been plenty of opportunity to show it in the recent documentaries, but all of the live footage has turned out to be from Houston.

I think you also used the word "fact", so perhaps it's your writing comprehension that's at fault?
Yes I have seen the ''uncut'' footage you refer to, not that that proves anything of course.
I'm just airing my point of view and thought I was being quite civil, it's your problem if you think otherwise.

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I'm just airing my point of view and thought I was being quite civil, it's your problem if you think otherwise.

Utter nonsense. Your choice of language was combative on numerous levels, which anyone with half a brain can see.

You began by attempting to discredit me on account of the fact that I wasn't there, which is a pointless argument. Unless you took photos during their set where there are cameras seen rolling (or you can post the footage itself), your anecdotal evidence means nothing.

Stick to the topic at hand without making it personal. This is not the place.

The Real Wizard wrote:
your anecdotal evidence means nothing.

I'm not providing any anecdotal "evidence" am I?
In fact quite the contrary, after making a few enquiries I do now have some information which leads me to believe the concert itself was not filmed.
I am also hoping to get confirmation of this from another reputable source, and at that point I will make up my own mind what I consider to be factual and not guess work.

Careful he has 20157 posts ! no life!

Maybe the documentary crew filmed the WHOLE time but certainly did not filmed the WHOLE event in a consistent way, they only captured some disparate material suited for the documentary, as both of you separately (how else?) assume.

Here's hoping for a 4K HDR release of Montreal and/or Budapest 86. I have contacted Eagle Rock about this and the fact AFAIK there is no concert release on 4K! It's all Marvel super heroes!

bucsateflon wrote:

Careful he has 20157 posts ! no life!

I'm going to pull a Sebastian here.

I've been a member of this website for about 20 years.

20 * 365 = 7300 days

So that's less than 3 posts per day.

The average post takes about one minute to write.

So by your flawless logic, I have no life because I spend an average of 3 minutes per day on a forum.

*slow hand clap*

Assuming you sleep solid eight hours a day, you're awake for 960 minutes. If you're only using 3 of them to type your posts, then you've still got 957 minutes (99.6875% of your waking hours) to devote to your career, your family, your social life, eating, commuting, brushing your teeth, etc. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Surf whilst on the bog and cancel it out.

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I'm not providing any anecdotal "evidence" am I?

Then why else were you trying to discredit me by pointing out that you were there and I wasn't?

after making a few enquiries I do now have some information which leads me to believe the concert itself was not filmed.

...especially now that you admit that my research was basically correct anyway?

I am also hoping to get confirmation of this from another reputable source, and at that point I will make up my own mind what I consider to be factual and not guess work.

Classic carrot dangling - your specialty. Yes, we're all impressed with your so-called private connections that you feel the need to brag about on a public forum.

The Real Wizard wrote:
Classic carrot dangling - your specialty. Yes, we're all impressed with your so-called private connections that you feel the need to brag about on a public forum.

Carrot dangling by bragging about so-called private connections, really?
Some of the people I contacted you probably know yourself, I'm just not mentioning any names that's all.
For the record, they are all contactable via social media and anyone can message them.
I hope you don't mind if I do my own research, in my own way, rather than rely solely on your assessment.
Anyway, get back to the topic at hand.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Here's another with Brian's echoplex pedals.

This screen shot is all the evidence Mr Wizard needed. If you watch the WATC video it's clear there is a extension from the stage into the audience. However it's smaller, not mirrored and the stage hight is much lower than the NOTW touring show. The Dury Lane stage is no more than three or four feet tall at most.

The evidence is clear that the black and white footage is not the WATC shoot.

However, many years ago I was told that it was filmed and does exist. My view is that just because this footage isn't from that event, and no other footage has been released that could be from that show it doesn't prove it doesn't exist.

Can you say who it was that told you it was filmed?