Monster Mary

The Real Wizard wrote:

RBoulain wrote:

Wow, says the one who in an interview explained how Freddie almost lost a foot before dying, while he was talking about unrelated stuff. Fine.

How do you know it was unrelated? What you read was a journalist's edit, not an uncut conversation.

The bit about losing the foot was in Brian's own book, so I doubt it was a journalist's edit.

The Real Wizard wrote:

captainjory wrote:

I bet Brian doesn't realise Mary said she didn't think the remaining members deserved a portion of the royalties Freddie left them and claimed they begrudged her the home...

When did she say this?

Source?

It's in one of her David Wigg exclusives from 2013.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2301718/Freddie-Mercury-Queen-stars-lover-Mary-Austin-cursed-fortune.html

Whenever this conversation comes up, the Saint Mary creepers always claim David Wigg twisted her words to make her look bad, but if that's the case, it keeps happening. In a 2000 interview with the same rag, she implied his parents didn't like her too.
I don't have the original copy of that magazine but it appears both here and on Brian's website:

http://www.freddie.ru/e/archives/daily_mail/

https://brianmay.com/freddie/dm220100/dm220100.html

Peter Freestone also mentioned reading a copy of it in his book and being upset by it.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Kuijpy wrote:

Awful person, golddigging, what If Freddie was a carpenter? Then was all the contact brokan, look what she did to the guys Freddie loved, jealous golddigging bitch,


Don't like her.

ha ! Are you serious?

If he was a carpenter, she still would have loved him. She knew him when he was dirt poor. Can't say the same for the others.

Freddie said she was the only person he ever trusted. And his other "friends" wrote tell-all books that made his private life public.

Looks like he made the right choice.

She's admitted twice it took her three years to fall in love with him and at one point in the early days, thought of leaving him. So maybe not the deep love for an impoverished musician it at first seems!

Queen's first album comes out, suddenly she sees potential success on the horizon and falls deeply in love...

(yes I know he was still poor for some time after 1973, but it's not the point!)

She said this on film as well as in a written interview, so it's incontestable that her deep feelings for him came later. Odd considering she was living with him.

captainjory wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

captainjory wrote:

I bet Brian doesn't realise Mary said she didn't think the remaining members deserved a portion of the royalties Freddie left them and claimed they begrudged her the home...

When did she say this?

Source?

It's in one of her David Wigg exclusives from 2013.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2301718/Freddie-Mercury-Queen-stars-lover-Mary-Austin-cursed-fortune.html

Whenever this conversation comes up, the Saint Mary creepers always claim David Wigg twisted her words to make her look bad, but if that's the case, it keeps happening. In a 2000 interview with the same rag, she implied his parents didn't like her too.
I don't have the original copy of that magazine but it appears both here and on Brian's website:

http://www.freddie.ru/e/archives/daily_mail/

https://brianmay.com/freddie/dm220100/dm220100.html

Peter Freestone also mentioned reading a copy of it in his book and being upset by it.

Yes, she also said this in OK magazine 2000.

Jer mentioned she hadn't seen Mary since Freddie died, but doesn't have a problem with her inheriting the estate. I'd have thought Mary would have tried to at least stay friends.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/rockandpopfeatures/9523701/Exclusive-interview-Freddie-Mercurys-mother-on-her-dear-boy.html

Also in People Magazine 1977, she told a journalist she was puzzled by him because he was mentally all over the place. Mary is not as silently dignified as people think.

http://people.com/archive/the-mercury-thats-rising-in-rock-is-freddie-the-satiny-seductor-of-queen-vol-8-no-23/


The photo I just uploaded is only page one, but I'm leaving it here to show you what interview its on.

I have read many books (fiction and biography) about kings, politicians, actors, painters, composers, scientists, etc.
I'm probably a person without morality because of that. :-D


This article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2301718/Freddie-Mercury-Queen-stars-lover-Mary-Austin-cursed-fortune.html shows the intention to show her as a saint and all the other are bad guys.
The title shows that-"I was cursed by Freddie's fortune: Queen star's lover got his millions, was cruelly attacked by jealous rivals and even abandoned by Mercury's own band mate"

I don't think David Wigg was twisted her words. I think he was the one who most made the image of her in the public as a saint and the only person who Freddie was trusted.

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Dr Magus wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Dr Magus wrote:

Tell-all books get written about famous people after they die - fact of life.

The interest from many Queen fans is there. If the market didn't exist there probably wouldn't be so many.

How many have you read?

I can proudly say the answer is zero.

And the fact that you define your morals by what others are interested in makes you a far different person than I.

Also proud of that.

Nope i think what would make us different is i'm not sat on my high horse pointing a judging finger at the rest.

I haven't read any of these books either. I must have some morals after all eh.

Mary may be the only one to have not written a book about Freddie but she was also the only one to have been given his mansion and his millions. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. It certainly removed any financial incentive for writing such a book.

Maybe if Freddie had given his mansion and millions to Jim Hutton then perhaps we'd have seen a book from Mary called Mercury & Me. Who knows.

Invisible Woman wrote:

I have read many books (fiction and biography) about kings, politicians, actors, painters, composers, scientists, etc.
I'm probably a person without morality because of that. :-D


This article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2301718/Freddie-Mercury-Queen-stars-lover-Mary-Austin-cursed-fortune.html shows the intention to show her as a saint and all the other are bad guys.
The title shows that-"I was cursed by Freddie's fortune: Queen star's lover got his millions, was cruelly attacked by jealous rivals and even abandoned by Mercury's own band mate"

I don't think David Wigg was twisted her words. I think he was the one who most made the image of her in the public as a saint and the only person who Freddie was trusted.

He proposed to her before coming out?
Sounds like the Will & Grace storyline. :D

"As his life ebbed away, Mercury watched DVD footage of his past performances."
and
"It was an emotional and stress-filled mission for Mary, who lived with Mercury on and off for 20 years."

what?

The Fairy King wrote:

Invisible Woman wrote:

I have read many books (fiction and biography) about kings, politicians, actors, painters, composers, scientists, etc.
I'm probably a person without morality because of that. :-D


This article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2301718/Freddie-Mercury-Queen-stars-lover-Mary-Austin-cursed-fortune.html shows the intention to show her as a saint and all the other are bad guys.
The title shows that-"I was cursed by Freddie's fortune: Queen star's lover got his millions, was cruelly attacked by jealous rivals and even abandoned by Mercury's own band mate"

I don't think David Wigg was twisted her words. I think he was the one who most made the image of her in the public as a saint and the only person who Freddie was trusted.

He proposed to her before coming out?
Sounds like the Will & Grace storyline. :D

"As his life ebbed away, Mercury watched DVD footage of his past performances."
and
"It was an emotional and stress-filled mission for Mary, who lived with Mercury on and off for 20 years."

what?

Yeah I know, most David Wigg interviews claim they lived together for 20 years. Bad research, but I guess it comes from her often being in the house when Wigg's 80s interviews were conducted. Often people assume she lived there, even Thor did in the other thread.


Mary claimed Freddie proposed to her Christmas 1974, one month before he met future boyfriend David Minns. The proposal was weird, as if he did it on impulse and regretted it - he never mentioned it again and it wasn't even a proper ring! WTF Freddie.

I have seldom seen such judgamental crap in a thread on QZ. People getting all wound up about the relationship between two people they never knew. To me Freddie Mercury seems to have been quite an intelligent guy who was totally capable to manage his own life and who certainly knew to whom he left his house. To leave messages there is beyond stupid because he has been dead for 26 years and is not there to read them. There is a certain cult-like "fan" group who is really pathetic. If you feel the need to pilgrim to a site where you can worship Freddie, go to Montreux, they provide for statue and tour. There you can leave all your flowers, self-painted pictures and all the other little offerings like crazy teenagers and leave poor Mary Austin alone, she owes those "fans" nothing.

Isnt the house owned by the Estate of Freddie Mercury, Mary having the right to use the house for a period of 50 years after Freddie died?

TRS-Romania wrote:

Isnt the house owned by the Estate of Freddie Mercury, Mary having the right to use the house for a period of 50 years after Freddie died?

Yes!

"When I find myself in walls of writing
Monster Mary comes to me
Speaking words of lawsuit
Let it be"

That last sentence is the only one I actually stand by.

Dr Magus wrote:

Mary may be the only one to have not written a book about Freddie but she was also the only one to have been given his mansion and his millions. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. It certainly removed any financial incentive for writing such a book.

So she's potentially as guilty as the people who cashed in because she didn't need to cash in?

Sound logic.

Enough speculation, please.

YourValentine wrote:

I have seldom seen such judgamental crap in a thread on QZ. People getting all wound up about the relationship between two people they never knew. To me Freddie Mercury seems to have been quite an intelligent guy who was totally capable to manage his own life and who certainly knew to whom he left his house. To leave messages there is beyond stupid because he has been dead for 26 years and is not there to read them. There is a certain cult-like "fan" group who is really pathetic. If you feel the need to pilgrim to a site where you can worship Freddie, go to Montreux, they provide for statue and tour. There you can leave all your flowers, self-painted pictures and all the other little offerings like crazy teenagers and leave poor Mary Austin alone, she owes those "fans" nothing.

Bang on.