snifflese to the rescue! Thanks, smart lady! Yes, the bully/stalker followed me here again to this unmoderated forum because she has to be careful at QOL!
I don’t care! I am proud to be a fan of Queen and of Adam and so glad these guys found each other. It is a match “made in heaven!”
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
That is just what I mean with your nasty language and bullying. You twist everything around and try to play the martyr. I don't use your language and constantly abuse people. The only reason you are still on QOL is that the handful of you naysayers are all in synch. There is no one left to post because it is just a waste of time! All of you, except for a few folks, for the most part hate Adam and actually don't seem to care for Brian nor Roger. Which is fine, everyone is entitled to an opinion. My problem is the nasty way in which it is done and that Caroline seems to be the whipping boy or girl, both here and there. You don't allow anyone else to have a different opinion, that is the problem. It is one thing to have a different opinion and talk about it sensibly, but it seems to devolve into name calling and nasty language very quickly and it is on your part and the die hards on QOL. I don't post there much at all as there is no point. There are no interesting comments and I already know what you all think. You people jump on every little thing (forgetting a few lines a couple of times - like Freddie wasn't so out of it that he forgot stuff - there are just no videos!!) and talk about it ad nauseum, but when a tour or concert is obviously a huge success (look at the twitter and facebook and Ticket master reviews, they are well over 95% positive). And no, Icy, Adam's looks are not the main focus, it is usually a comment about Adam's amazing voice. You never see someone's voice mentioned in reviews, but Adam's is so rare, that a large majority of the responses I have read, mention the voice!!! Millions of folks have seen QAL over the last 5 years and it has been a resounding success and as Adam grows into his role and is comfortable with the guys, it gets better and better. Never see that mentioned on QOL! Talk about butthurt Glamberts, that is like the pot calling the kettle black![/QUOTE]
You became nasty with me first, going as far as saying I should have been banned instead of sweetcaroline, and saying something should be done about me. What you said is all there in the post I quoted. You want things your way, to suit you apparently. The way you assume things as to why you think that's why I'm on QOL is because I'm in synch with naysayers. Haha, shows what you think you know. I disagree with people over there, and they disagree about many things. I'm able to handle it. Keep clutching to those straws. You are wrong saying people hate AL. Prove to me if you can where that's been said. You don't find comments interesting because God forbid you step out from you all bubble and discuss Freddie with Queen once in a blue moon.
I have my own POVs about things thanks very much. Too bad for you that you don't agree with it. Glowing tweets, articles, constant promotion ( I see what you are doing here by the way ) aren't going to change my mind. The only thing that can change my mind is the music. Not the hype and bigging up of the guy, which must be Glambert code or something.
About Al's voice, it's not, or ever will be all about hitting the notes for me. The talent, lyrics, the production, the drama, the just the all around emotion in Queen songs is what stands out to me in the Queen catalogue. AL would be lucky if he has half of that, and we'll to me, his emotion is sorely lacking in Q+AL shows most of the time. He pulled off Save Me very well IMO, and yes I said that on QOL. I have also said I felt the other tours were much better than these last two legs of the tour. If that affronts you somehow, so be it.
Just where and how did you come up with that Freddie was so out of it? I've never denied Freddie messed up by the way. So yes, you twist things.
Ah, Glambert tactic to always promote and big up the guy. The voice, the reviews, the tweets...So? I don't share the views of glowing tweets and articles, so what. Do you take it on yourself to prove that you think I'm wrong and others who you label as naysayers are wrong? People don't say things becomes better and better as time goes on over at QOL you say. No one has to say anything, or to share the same views the Glamberts have. Does messing up three nights in a row mean things are better? Does Al's tacky banter make things better? Does his cape or craw around onstage make the show better? None of that, makes it better to me. I'm speaking for myself. And tough shit that you don't agree with me. Two posts in and you have ranted and wanted things done your way to suit you and your Glambert buddy here. It's pathetic really.
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
snifflese to the rescue! Thanks, smart lady! Yes, the bully/stalker followed me here again to this unmoderated forum because she has to be careful at QOL!
I don’t care! I am proud to be a fan of Queen and of Adam and so glad these guys found each other. It is a match “made in heaven!”[/QUOTE]
Did you call her up to 'rescue' you? Not so smart flying into a rage and saying I ought to have been banned. Pretty dumb actually.
Once again you use Queen songs to try to bolster your POVs. You fail. You rely on glowing tweets, articles, Bible quotes and Queen song titles to try to prove your point. It actually makes you look pathetic and unable to come up with much of anything original to say, except it's perfect and magnificent. Of course, that's exactly what I would expect you to say.
I have absolutely no clue what you are trying, but failing, to say, Icy. How are Queen songs bolstering our POV? What does that even mean? Is a match made in heaven a Bible verse, don't think so!! If one wanted an unbiased assessment of a concert, book, or movie, one would go to tweets, youtube comments, articles,reviews, and comments on facebook to see what the majority opinion was. I sure wouldn't go and read what Icy, Fairy Dandy, JP and the Milkman on QOL had to say. I'll tell you that! Of course you go to the above mentioned!!! I have been to all of the above and I am telling you that the vast majority are glowing remarks about QAL. I am sure they are over 95% positive. The longer they play together, the better they get and the more glowing the reviews are. There was not one bad review that I saw this time. It seems critics and concert goers alike were very happy. They love seeing Brian and Roger having so much fun, hearing the great Queen music (probably wouldn't appreciate the unusual songs, they want the hits!), and they love hearing Adam sing. Even people on QOL (hotspace I think or Dave) even said that you can't critique what you haven't seen. A concert is not a book or movie and a youtube just doesn't cut it. It is not like being in the venue with lights all over the place and music swarming around and the excitement of the crowd. All of that makes the experience!
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
I have absolutely no clue what you are trying, but failing, to say, Icy. How are Queen songs bolstering our POV? What does that even mean? Is a match made in heaven a Bible verse, don't think so!! If one wanted an unbiased assessment of a concert, book, or movie, one would go to tweets, youtube comments, articles,reviews, and comments on facebook to see what the majority opinion was. I sure wouldn't go and read what Icy, Fairy Dandy, JP and the Milkman on QOL had to say. I'll tell you that! Of course you go to the above mentioned!!! I have been to all of the above and I am telling you that the vast majority are glowing remarks about QAL. I am sure they are over 95% positive. The longer they play together, the better they get and the more glowing the reviews are. There was not one bad review that I saw this time. It seems critics and concert goers alike were very happy. They love seeing Brian and Roger having so much fun, hearing the great Queen music (probably wouldn't appreciate the unusual songs, they want the hits!), and they love hearing Adam sing. Even people on QOL (hotspace I think or Dave) even said that you can't critique what you haven't seen. A concert is not a book or movie and a youtube just doesn't cut it. It is not like being in the venue with lights all over the place and music swarming around and the excitement of the crowd. All of that makes the experience! [/QUOTE]
Thanks, now I know some of you Glamberts share the same sheet.
How do I go to the people you mention? Better watch what you are implying here unless you have something to back it up. Funny that you come here posting suddenly to say what you think about me, eh.
I have never gave anyone a hard time for going to the shows or not going. One of the people you mention is a Facebook friend of mine, I'm well aware of how much he liked the show. I have no problems with any thing he stated.
Made In Heaven is a Freddie solo song, and the name of the last Queen album that includes the reworked Queen version of it... just for your information. Did you not know that before spouting off here? Are you aware sweetcaroline has posted bible quotes here in trying to get her point across? No, I doubt you knew.
I'm well aware many people enjoy the shows. I enjoyed other Q+AL tours more, especially the one from about three years ago. That remains my favorite Q +AL tour so far. Just too bad the last two legs of the tours relied on gimmicks so much the same old banter, not much changes set list wise. That's my views.
I am only stating my POV because I have seen you cut down Caroline for ages on QOL and I have seen the same recently on here. I was just tired of it and felt like I should say something. I don't like bullies and people who have no taste for other people's opinions without being extremely nasty about it! No one wants to change your POV, but you need to treat other folks in a civil manner and that you seem to be incapable of. That is what upsets me and I think it needs to stop. That is my view!
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
I am only stating my POV because I have seen you cut down Caroline for ages on QOL and I have seen the same recently on here. I was just tired of it and felt like I should say something. I don't like bullies and people who have no taste for other people's opinions without being extremely nasty about it! No one wants to change your POV, but you need to treat other folks in a civil manner and that you seem to be incapable of. That is what upsets me and I think it needs to stop. That is my view![/QUOTE]
Oh like she has never cut down me for ages? Did you miss that or choose to ignore that fact?
I have tried to be civil to her hear after she was banned in August. I actually said I'd help her if I could, but she wouldn't even take that in good grace, instead she lashed out at me.
You say something should be done about me, and I should have been the one banned instead of her. Are you aware of what caused her ban? I'm confused because she said it was for loving and posting about Adam too much, then turned around and said it was for being too postive. So I don't know the full story, she didn't or couldn't keep it straight. I admit and hold my hands up that I'm opionated and stubborn. I will not let lies said about me which she has often put out there about me. That I'm not a Queen fan, that I helped to get her and her friend banned, that I'm a fan of another band to butter someone else up, that's just some of it, all according to sweetcaroline. Its her way of turning tables on me than admit to being wrong about some things. Her warped excuse of linking to a personal, private photo from a private account, is because she says nothing is private on the internet. She hasn't admitted that she was wrong linking to it, that's just one way she has to excuse things.
I have been wrong in my time. I have admitted to it. I have never pretended to be innocent. She has played the victim card nce too many times. You and her obviously think my feelings about the tour and AL is wrong, but it's how I feel. You or anyone else don't have to agree with me. I don't have to agree with you. Tell me why you swoop in with rants about me right off the bat? You did the exact same thing on QOL. Is it because you think I'm always wrong, or sweetcaroline is always right? Red alert time again?
You both are trying to back track so much, you both are leaving tire marks.
Wow, Icy, chill out already. That pic that you insist was private popped up on my Facebook feed from a group calling themselves Adam Lambert Fan Club.
The best thing, Icy, would be to quit all the nonsense about the ban and Sweet Caroline and the picture and everything else you go on about. No one cares about that stuff. If you want to discuss as you say you do, cut all the garbage out. Ranting about those things is all you ever do! Make it about the music. You are entitled to like who you do, but calling people liars and that they are out to get you is just not right. You go on and on about stuff no one cares about. I have never seen Caroline say anything to you like what you write about her. After you have goaded and goaded her,she might have a choice word, but she never initiates anything. I would be furious if someone was always nitpicking at me. If you would stop that, all would be well. To each his own!!
This is for Icy in case she missed it:
http://www.instagram.com/p/Bc3P0cMFdXD3MM7hisyJajy0ReWfu2MEEZj9Lg0/?taken-by=normanhumal
Maybe she should holler at Norman Humal for posting it.
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
This is for Icy in case she missed it:
Maybe she should holler at Norman Humal for posting it.[/QUOTE]
You are posting it for me this time? I didn't need or want to see it again by the way. You should not have wasted your time. No really you should not have posted in the first place, let alone a second time. Wtf is wrong with you, do you get your kicks this way? I edited the link out from your post in this reply to you by the way. Now, I know you are purposely linking to it here as a way to bait. I. I think you can never shock me again, but you do. You are linking to the exact same pic again that also includes a baby, from the exact same private account as before. You sure won't stop at nothing. You can't stop at nothing. Goes to show how low you will go. Would you want your personal private photograph/s spread on the internet? I highly doubt it, but it's ok for you to do it with this photo apparently. Why is that? Oh because you think not is private on the net, and you came across it on Facebook. What fucked up 'reasoning' you have to excuse yourself. You sure lack in common sense and boundaries.
That man who posted the pic has 97 followers and he follows forty + people. Does that not tell you or at least give you a clue it's a private account. Does that not tell you or give you a clue just might not want the pic splashed over here, Facebook, the internet?! How the hell can you defend what you did, and then go ahead and do the same thing again now in case I missed it as you put it? I obviously saw it the first time you posted it. This is for you, sweetcaroline. Get a grip. Get common sense. Respect boundaries about personal and private things. Can you do that? Apparently not.
Why would I holler l at that man for posting the pic? My issue is not with that man in case it wasn't clear, it's with you spreading a private pic from a private account. I highly doubt you had any permission to link to that pic here. You simply don't think or care about boundaries when it comes to Lambert or even his family members.
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Wow, Icy, chill out already. That pic that you insist was private popped up on my Facebook feed from a group calling themselves Adam Lambert Fan Club. [/QUOTE]
That's how you defend linking to a private pic from a private account? Because it was on Facebook, you thought to post the link to it here? What on Earth are you thinking at times?? Are some Glamberts that fkn bat shit crazy they wanted to spread it around? The fact you still link to it? Did you have anyone's permission to post it? Doubt it!
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
The best thing, Icy, would be to quit all the nonsense about the ban and Sweet Caroline and the picture and everything else you go on about. No one cares about that stuff. If you want to discuss as you say you do, cut all the garbage out. Ranting about those things is all you ever do! Make it about the music. You are entitled to like who you do, but calling people liars and that they are out to get you is just not right. You go on and on about stuff no one cares about. I have never seen Caroline say anything to you like what you write about her. After you have goaded and goaded her,she might have a choice word, but she never initiates anything. I would be furious if someone was always nitpicking at me. If you would stop that, all would be well. To each his own!![/QUOTE]
Don't tell me what to do, ta very much. Why did sweetcaroline come here to bitch about her ban, maybe you should ask yourself and her that question. The garbage she posted about me being to blame for her bans and 'everyone else' as she put it.
No one cares about it? She sure did bother enough to say all sorts about and to me. And of course you would say she hasn't said anything to me like I have about her. Point is, you don't know, and if you think you do, clearly you have only her side of the story perhaps. Because honey, you came in here with an ax to grind towards me obviously. Pick, pick, pick right from the get go is what you are doing here. Namely you are doing it to defend your friend and to big up AL. Anyone can see what you are doing.
Would she stop saying I'm not a Queen fan, I'm a fan of others to butter up someone, that a thread elsewhere needed my physco approval, those are just three things she has said about me here. Does she need or want you to defend her, and to pick an argument with me that had nothing to do with you? But you sure jumped in anyways and let it be known what you thought about me. You went there.
I damn well don't need or want your approval to post. I never did, nor will I ever need it. Not up to you, though anyone who reads your posts know you think I should be banned from QOL, and you want something done about me here. You have made that clear as day, but it's not up to you what I post, and where I post.
Yea, I did pick at you in my first post because I am sick of reading all the same garbage on QOL and now here, that you somehow think is interesting to everyone else. It just isn't. Where am I bigging up AL ?I have never heard that expression in my life but I assume you mean praising him? I am not sure that saying the tour has been a huge success and saying that he has a great voice is bigging him up .Those would be two discussion points which could be discussed on a board like this. The problem is that anything that praises QAL is bigging them up and that is your problem because all you like to hear is the negative. I am allowed to say the tour is successful and he has a great voice. That is not some crazy praise. In my mind and the majority of concert goers (which does not include you and that is part of the problem as you have not experienced how wonderful the concert is!) it is a fact. Laudatory comments are allowed on a QAL thread and that is not bigging AL up. If you got that idea out of your head, this board would be much less argumentative. Go post on a board that mainly discusses Freddie and Queen. It would be more peaceful here and your blood pressure would probably be better. Mine would too, since I am sick to death of reading the same garbage you spew in every post. I have never read one interesting thing in the hundreds of posts of yours that I have had the misfortune of reading over the years. Maybe you might want to think about that, instead of complaining about everything under the sun and somehow making it all about poor you! Have something interesting and worth talking about for a change!
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
Yea, I did pick at you in my first post because I am sick of reading all the same garbage on QOL and now here, that you somehow think is interesting to everyone else. It just isn't. Where am I bigging up AL ?I have never heard that expression in my life but I assume you mean praising him? I am not sure that saying the tour has been a huge success and saying that he has a great voice is bigging him up .Those would be two discussion points which could be discussed on a board like this. The problem is that anything that praises QAL is bigging them up and that is your problem because all you like to hear is the negative. I am allowed to say the tour is successful and he has a great voice. That is not some crazy praise. In my mind and the majority of concert goers (which does not include you and that is part of the problem as you have not experienced how wonderful the concert is!) it is a fact. Laudatory comments are allowed on a QAL thread and that is not bigging AL up. If you got that idea out of your head, this board would be much less argumentative. Go post on a board that mainly discusses Freddie and Queen. It would be more peaceful here and your blood pressure would probably be better. Mine would too, since I am sick to death of reading the same garbage you spew in every post. I have never read one interesting thing in the hundreds of posts of yours that I have had the misfortune of reading over the years. Maybe you might want to think about that, instead of complaining about everything under the sun and somehow making it all about poor you! Have something interesting and worth talking about for a change!
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You say you are sick of it, but funny *sarcasm* how you jumped right away with so much to say about me. Very ironic and very telling you did that, eh. It tells me everything. Very eye opening. You say I make things all about me, yet with your first post here you went into a major rant or hissy fit about me. You made it clear you have issues with me right in your first post.
Big up, praise, promote. Can some Glamberts post on Queen message boards where music is being discussed manage that without having to be on the constant defense and promotion side of things. Highly unlikely I say after reading and being involved in many threads in the past few years. You are one of them, snifflese...looking at you here.
If my posts and views get you this worked up, you need help for that. Really not kidding about that. It would be easier if you could ignore my posts, but you can't and you won't obviously. It's so much more fun for you to jump in and say all sorts about me. Does it make you feel better to get it all you crap out here? You never have interacted with me very much only in Lambert related discussions after all. So how and why would think I'm negative all the time? You haven't a clue. I said loved AL singing Save Me...not enough praise though, was it for you. I guess I should have copied and pasted tweets upon tweets, articles to do the talking for me. I do have views of my own. I'm allowed to give them.
You say I'm a part of the problem because I have never seen how wonderful Q+AL is in person and I am always negative. Tell me if it's mandatory that I go to a concert and be glowing about it. That just might appease you or make you feel better, if I did that...or then again maybe not. Last summer my mother took ill very suddenly. That's why I didn't attend the show in Edmonton last summer. But I'm sure that reason isn't good enough for you. If it's such a problem that I didn't go last year, before or since, that's down to you. That's you making a big deal about the many apparent issues you have with me. I am going to be clear now...I never gave anyone grief for going or not going to Q+AL shows, I know a few people on my Facebook friends list, who went to shows and enjoyed it. You make it seem like it's mandatory for me to go to a Q+AL show to see how 'wonderful' it is, to suit what you so desperately want and crave...glowing views only about Q+AL are ever going to be accepted by you and sweetcaroline. The very fact you say you have a problem with me for not going is a messed up way you have to think about it all. Frankly, it's fucked up. Should I hold it against you if you never attended a show from my favorite artists and expect you to say how wonderful it is? What the hell is it to you anyways that I couldn't attend a Q+AL show? You come here spouting your shit about me proves you have an ax to grind and an agenda. You have made that quite clear. I love how you and sweetcaroline trip over yourselves while trying to place the blame squarely on me. I'm not perfect, I admit it, but I'm unwilling to take full blame for any of it. Your buddy sweetcaroline can't do much wrong in your eyes apparently. So you rant and rage at me in almost every one of your posts here, including your first post. What a rant filled first post, quite the start, eh.
I actually post boards about Freddie and Queen in case that escaped your attention, thanks very much. Do you not get the Queen part of QOL and QZ? Does it bother you I can and I'm able to post on both boards? Obviously, it does bother you enough. Seven posts you have made here so far, six of which you are saying all sorts about me.
My blood pressure is more than fine, thanks anyways, how is yours after all of your ranting and raging here?
Ok, let's talk about the music shall we?
What do you offer in terms of discussion? Rants and rages about me? That you became so insulted when Freddie was talked about on QOL a few months back, cause you wanted all the attention for Lambert? That you have no respect at all for John Deacon since 1991? That you think John does nothing but to rake money in, as if that's all he does. That you don't get why Queen fans respect and admire John? That you think Q+AL is the same as Queen? All of that are in your posts on QOL. You bleated on about AL getting no credit. You are sure full of horse shit over there as you are here. But ok, according to you I'm the one who has nothing interesting to say and my posts aren't worthy in your eyes( oh the irony after your posts over there and now here).
Why do you feel AL sang WWTLF better than Freddie? That's your nugget of wisdom you left on QOL without explaining why you feel that way. Care to expand on that? Genuine question.
