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[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

Go to a library and find books on Queen or even rock music in general. Or google "Queen influences".

You can even watch documentaries on YouTube. When I was your age I had to go to a video rental store and pay to rent a copy - if they had one ! You had to call in advance to see if they had it.

When I was a kid I couldn't post on a forum to learn about something. I had to research it myself. You kids have no idea how good you've got it.

Good luck with the project.
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Get off my lawn. LOL
Socialism: There's one for you, nineteen for me Should five per cent appear too small Be thankful I don't take it all
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Get off my lawn ...
Socialism: There's one for you, nineteen for me Should five per cent appear too small Be thankful I don't take it all
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[QUOTE] [b]Penetration_Guru wrote:[/b]

1. Wikipedia
2. Wikipedia
3. Wikipedia

Kids today, they can't even copy their homework off the internet without help....[/QUOTE]

Get off my lawn ... from someone (me) who can get a "senior" discount at Denny's ... and can't properly use a measage board without triple posting..
Socialism: There's one for you, nineteen for me Should five per cent appear too small Be thankful I don't take it all
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Blatantly works for Queen Productions and they've dropped their shopping about the new film
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Thank you Chopin1995 and Cruella De Vil for all the suggestions and links, I'm checking them you now!
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When writing about bands or artists that were influenced by Queen, I feel it is important to emphasise the very wide range of music styles covered by those influenced by them. For example, although a number of band would say they are influenced by Metallica, pretty much all of those will be rock/metal artists. The big difference with Queen is the breadth of influence; artists that have openly stated they were heavily influenced by Queen include:

Metal: Slayer, Metallica
Pop: Lady Ga Ga, Katy Perry, George Michael
Gospel/Jazz: Gregory Porter
Rock: Winger, White Lion, Extreme, The Darkness, Foo Fighters, Guns n Roses, Def Leppard
Opera: Alfie Boe
Rock/Prog: Dream Theater, Muse

The list goes on and is pretty extensive really.


No matter what your taste, there will pretty much be a Queen song that you like/love.
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Ignore what everyone else has said about the band's influences. Paul Rogers and Free were Brian's childhood heroes, despite being Brian being OLDER than Paul and had already earned his DEGREE when Free released their first album. Still, he said they were his childhood heroes so it must be gospel.

Oh and Paul Rogers was Freddie's favourite singer.
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I have to say it's wonderful to see how helpful and open Queenzone is to helping people.... jeez, there was a time when forums were set up to impart information and share knowledge... not here, it seems it takes Serious genuflecting and stepping out backwards with head bowed before people respond

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In addition to the above, I would say that Hot Space was a pivotal album for the band.

The first album was an attempt to define themselves as a product of their influences which were alluded to above but this didn't really come to fruition until Queen II. As the songwriting improved, they produced Sheer Heart Attack, the first major success which combined better songwriting with simpler production

The 'Marx brothers' period is when they combined mature songwriting with increasingly complex production techniques. This went very much out of fashion in the late 70s when they produced the stripped-down album News of the World - the strength of the writing allowed them to produce an extremely successful album with more staightforward production

Jazz is an oddity in the sequence of albums at this time, they had stated that they wanted to combine what they had learned in production with Roy Thomas Baker who just had massive commercial success in the USA (with The Cars). I'm sure many fans would agree that, by this time, RTB was not really the ideal producer - the album lacked punch and depth and despite a few excellent songs, some of the writing/quality control had dipped. This album was also less successful in the USA, their major market at the time, hence a change was required

The Game became their best selling studio album worldwide and sold by the truckload in USA. The album had a fresher feel, with this album (with Mack), they had learned to record quicker (a technique called 'dropping in) where the backing tracks could be done in segments rather than as a whole performance
Mack also freshened the drum sounds and introduced other guitar sounds (e.g. Crazy Little Thing) and, for the first time; synthesisers!
Another One Bites the Dust was a result of this recording technique and became their best selling single (at least 4 million) in the USA

This major success changed the band dynamic; Freddie and John had a liking for funk/disco and with the support of personal manager, Paul Prenter, they became convinced that the band adopt a disco/ funk feel would lead to further major sales

The resulting album was a disaster commercially and artistically; Hot Space

Brian May had put this failure partly down to timing; disco had 'peaked' by then and 'Thriller' by Michael Jackson had yet to be released. Had the album emerged after 'Thriller' things may have been different but this lack of success had been a blow to the band - especially in the USA where the Hot Space tour was less well attended that previous tours and none of the singles, with the exception of Body Language made any impact on the charts

They took most of 1983 off

By early 84, they had returned to form with 'The Works', adopting more traditional Queen values while advancing the production and synthesisers to compliment rather than dominate the sounds, e.g. Radio Gaga, I want to break free. The songwriting was also better by miles and guitar featured heavily throughout the album pleasing many of the hard core rock fans
They invested serious money in the videos for that album and it worked with one glaring exception; culturally, the American market did not seem to 'get' the humorous intention of the video for I want to break free and, from that point onwards, Queen couldn't even get arrested in the USA with no further major hits and the album stalling at 23 in the charts with sales of around 500,000 (compared to 4 million for The Game)
The Works tour stared late in the cycle of the album (released in Spring, tour in the autumn), no USA dates but huge success elsewhere, especially South America and.......South Africa! The tour included dates in Sun City resulting in harsh criticism from their peers and from the music press

Which brings us to Live Aid....

From then onwards their hushed success continued worldwide with the exception of the USA

No tours (obvious reasons) allowing them time for various solo projects

Success in the USA briefly returned after Freddie's death and in light of Wayne's world movie but, by that time it was all too late to capitalise

Hope this helps
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*hushed= major
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Thank you Anagramer and cmsdrums for the very insightful information, I'll check this out immediately!
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I had this problem before on a PRINCE.ORG forum about Tom Petty.... (*a NON PRINCE SECTION) and this asswipe walked in asking for help on the BEST TOM PETTY album. ...


I stayed true and voiced my love for the SHE'S THE ONE SOUNDTRACK and even voiced that it was sent to my brother by mistake from BMG but I'd opened it, resealed it and copied it because i like it (*i was 12, i was full of creativity)


I still think it's probably their best album up there with DAMN THE TORPEDOES. ..but this POS totally was exploiting MY knowledge to MAKE HIMSELF LOOK INTERESTING. ..didn't even bother to know things was probably using this to bate some slut who DECLARED she loved Tom Petty just because he died.


Needless to say. ....i hated the experience


so I'll offer this to this weekend wasteland fuck




FREDDIE'S INFLUENCES: CICERO THE CLOWN, Ronnie Wood, Matthew Cumstopper

JOHN'S INFLUENCES: HORTUS DICKFACE, Junior Walker, Sony and Shares

ROGER: BIGGUS DICKUS, Slayer, Walter Winchell

BRIAN: easy Rider, John McCartney, Paul Lennon and MOBY DICK
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[QUOTE] [b]likeanatombomb wrote:[/b]

Thank you Anagramer and cmsdrums for the very insightful information, I'll check this out immediately![/QUOTE]

One other MAJOR point that I failed to include was their live performances

Having seen then (with and without Freddie) on many occasions, it must be said that, in spite of the quality of the preceding album, their live shows were always trailblazing

Part of this was the fact that they came from a time when, to be successful and accepted as a serious musician (along with LED Zep, Yes and many others), they had to be virtuoso on their respective instruments

As a live band, they were also pioneering in the fact that they toured extensively, and in South America were the first major act to take a full production show in spite of the logistical issues

One other MAJOR factor in their live shows was Freddie Mercury's charisma and relationship with the audience- something intangible but, when he appeared on stage, he was simply spell-bounding, even if his voice was not on top form. He always gave the best of himself and, if you watch live performances, he was always in the moment, delivering what many would consider the best live performances of all time
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[QUOTE] [b]likeanatombomb wrote:[/b]

I have to do this entire prodject without wikipedia because 'its not a reliable source' so if you dont feel like helping then why comment? [/QUOTE]

But users on an internet forum are?
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I have already written this before which you could've read before commenting but, I'm not looking for answers to copy, I'm looking for inspiration and to educate myself on this truly amazing band. You do not have to help at all, but I appreciate all the help I can get from the people who live for Queen and want to share all their knowledge and love for them. A big thank you to everyone who has taken time out of their day to help me, it has been a treamendous help to get me out of my mindblock and gave me a ton of new ideas.