[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
I seem to remember Gillan leaving Purple and being replaced, Fish leaving Marillion and being replaced, a string of singers going through Rainbow, each bringing something different, Brian Johnson joining AC/DC, Steve Perry being replaced in Journey.
In the middle of all the nonesense you write you seem unable to face the fact, like Luckystar, that Freddie wasn't perfect. Some of us can see that, aren't afraid to comment on it and have been Queen fans from way back and were at those amazing shows, even the ones Freddie fucked up in! And I've never claimed him not to be a legend!
New bands, I listen to them all the time Sons Of Apollo are on in my car today, but I also like seeing some of the bands I enjoyed back in the 70's with or without the original singer. Howmany people buying Kiss tickets are missing half the original line up, or Maiden fans ELO or Status Quo. . . Just one you mentioned Priest, strangely enough the return of their singer has brought them deminished ticket sales, and less commercial success now than with Ripper Owens.
At least the current Queen line up still pulls in the same sized audiences that most of their late 70's and 80's tours did.
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When they write something of substance you could mouth off about Queen+ all you want, but I don't see that happening.
I have, that's the beauty of the forum. They don't have to write anything anymore. At their age and level of career they are doing what they enjoy and world wide they have an audience who agree.
Amazing that in 2018 this still needs pointing out, but - an active band with a fluid lineup changing singers is *somewhat* different than half a band resurrecting a band years later and that band having been fronted by one of the most icon frontmen of all time. DUH!!!
The sad thing is is that the nostalgia market is fucking massive, and they could have literally anyone fronting them now and they'd sell the same amount of tickets. If McCartney and Ringo announced they were doing a world tour with Gareth Gates fronting - people would buy tickets and it'd be huge. They aren't selling tickets because people think Lambert is great, they're selling tickets because of the brand. DUH!
[QUOTE] [b]Negative Creep wrote:[/b]
Amazing that in 2018 this still needs pointing out, but - an active band with a fluid lineup changing singers is *somewhat* different than half a band resurrecting a band years later and that band having been fronted by one of the most icon frontmen of all time. DUH!!!
The sad thing is is that the nostalgia market is fucking massive, and they could have literally anyone fronting them now and they'd sell the same amount of tickets. If McCartney and Ringo announced they were doing a world tour with Gareth Gates fronting - people would buy tickets and it'd be huge. They aren't selling tickets because people think Lambert is great, they're selling ticket's because of the brand. DUH![/QUOTE]
So a band like Metallica who have a long history going back to the earl mid 80's and don't have their original line up intact and release albums with a ten year gap but tour constantly are not a nostalgia act and not a brand either. DUH!
Get over the fact that music is an industry and the current Queen line up are a success. DUH!
If the guy fronting it makes no difference why are they selling more tickets than with PR and in America, more than with Freddie in 82 DUH!
[QUOTE] [b]Negative Creep wrote:[/b]
Amazing that in 2018 this still needs pointing out, but - an active band with a fluid lineup changing singers is *somewhat* different than half a band resurrecting a band years later and that band having been fronted by one of the most icon frontmen of all time. DUH!!!
The sad thing is is that the nostalgia market is fucking massive, and they could have literally anyone fronting them now and they'd sell the same amount of tickets. If McCartney and Ringo announced they were doing a world tour with Gareth Gates fronting - people would buy tickets and it'd be huge. They aren't selling tickets because people think Lambert is great, they're selling tickets because of the brand. DUH![/QUOTE]
Best comments on this thread...Thank you for that!
Mike Hunt, Respect to you and a great post, yes Queen is a brand name and no matter if the cat over the road fronts Queen they will sell out in 20 mins !
Adam Lambert is a total embarrassment for Queen, i was watching a clip on you tube last night of Lambert sat on a couch with massive stiletto heals and been a proper ponce fanning himself and i am thinking what the f*ck has happened to Queen having this jerk front what was once the greatest rock n roll show on earth in the 70s and 80s !
At least Paul Rodgers was talented and had a good musical pedigree, something that Lambert will never have.
I am like you Mike in that i will never go and see Queen live ever again for it is too painful and embarrassing.
Rodgers was right though when he wanted the band called Rodgers/May/Talyor Instead of Queen +. If they got an old time Bass player it would have been a proper supergroup. Even If they didn't last, and obviously they were out of ideas by 2008 as far as writing new material. I did see them In concert, I figured it would be my last and only chance too see a Queen related show and I respected Paul, even though I wasn't crazy about how he sang Queen songs. I thought it was worth it. Lambert and Queen I really don't like. He could sing in a Broadway style, but when I see him sing some of the Rock stuff like Dragon Attack I actually feel embarrassed to be a Queen fan. The rocks songs sound really bad.
Sons of Apollo isn't a "new band". Their music was new 20 years ago, now it's another metal jam act recycling the same generic shit.
Really, a Sons of Apollo listener complains about the "inconsistent and sometimes crappy" Freddie who "borrowed and stole like any other artist"?
I don't like Adam Lambert. I'd prefer they played Queen stuff on their own. BUT...if that's what they want, and people want to see it, so be it. I attended ONE of the shows a few years ago just to see Brian one last time. I wouldn't go again. Despite not liking AL, I feel that some of the comments here are not just wrong, but completely unfair. His style was like that before he joined Queen. He was also one of the highest earners before Queen, so he's not merely "making millions from a dead legend". In fact (I need to find the exact source) I hear that AL earned more than Queen last year.
It is what it is. It polarises people.
As for the future, I can only ask for what everyone seems to want: archive material, demos etc. I don't want Brian to die for it, though.
For me it's embarrassing what they are doing now, not telling them what to do etc, it's their right.
The couch thing is pathetic........
I never even seen the couch thing, That's how interested I am in the whole thing. When I watched Dragon Attack I never put that crap band on again. He sounded awful. In my humble opinion.
[QUOTE] [b]aristide1 wrote:[/b]
Sons of Apollo isn't a "new band". Their music was new 20 years ago, now it's another metal jam act recycling the same generic shit.
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It doesn't matter what style of music, or who is in the band. It is a new band. I understand that you have problems understanding that concept.
As for calling a type of music shit, sums you up really, all popular music has generic roots no matter what its style.
If you're going to pick fault, learn about what your talking about. Anyone can call something shit, but that doesn't lay a solid foundation for an argument for what you believe.
Borrowed and stole, yes and you can not prove any different. You seem to have taken what I've said as a criticism of Freddie. It wasn't it was a criticism of the type of person who posts on hear that Freddie was untouchable. There's a difference between that's shit and that's no good or good because. . . .
Your narrow mind is the only solid foundation I need in the argument about this ordinary Freddie of yours - the one armed with Aretha Franklin's records and dressed in Suzie Quatro's leather pants.
About misunderstood concepts. Are you familiar with the concept of fanzone - people sharing admiration, not criticism marketed as "proves and facts"?
aristide1, narrow mind? I don't think so, but believe what you want.
As for Freddie being ordinary, I didn't say that.
Aretha Fanklin, I didn't use her in any of my posts
Dressed as Suzi Quatro, I didn't say that either. Go back and read the facts. Someone (Happystar) posted on here that Adam Lambert had stolen the leather look from Freddie because that was his thing. I counted that by pointing out that a number of people had done the leather thing before Freddie, back to that borrowing ideas from earlier artists.
Yes I fully understand what a "fan zone" is. Unlike you I understand what an open view and a broad outlook is too. I have shared plenty of admiration for the members of the band on hear through the years. What I won't do is claim that anyone of them is untouchable as singers or musicians or that everything they created had no influence from any outside source,because that view is a million times more narrow minded than anything you can claim of me.
