mooghead
Strange how people think different things. In Only Seven Days may be my least favourite Queen song ever. The lyrics make Roger Taylor look like Shakespeare.
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Penetration_Guru
Irrespective of how good/bad each of us feel Jazz to be, the chances of there being a Jazz box this year are extremely low.
Impressive photoshopping by OP for that image though...
Impressive photoshopping by OP for that image though...
mooghead
I guess if there was to be any sort of Jazz box we would know by now. The Game on the other hand... we might even get that double album they recorded all those songs for then changed their mind at the last minute to release only single album....... :/
mike hunt
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Jimmy Dean wrote:[/b]
it really is Queen's worst album. If it didn't have 3 huge singles - more of you would agree. not only does it have the highest percentage of weak tracks, but it also has a bad running order and is in my opinion the worst-produced album in their catalog.[/QUOTE]
Partially agree, but I wouldn't go that far.
Jazz is the first time they're out in the wilderness a bit. They've sorted out their finances, and they're no longer hungry. But while the album has a few spotty bits and 2 or 3 of the tracks aren't up their standard set on the previous string of albums, it's far from their worst moment.
By the 80s they were way less focused and purely writing as individuals. They were still much more of a unit in 1978, and the lack of togetherness shows on many of the later albums. Hot Space and AKOM are far weaker - they are each half filler.
Jazz is sonically the weakest 70s Queen album for sure, but it has far too many redeeming features to be considered the worst in their catalogue. Fun It is the weakest track, but it's still far better than the derivative trite that is Pain Is So Close To Pleasure and Don't Lose Your Head.
When I think of an album with three hits and filler, I think of AKOM, not Jazz. Jazz, while weak at times, is still a band being artistic and maintaining some sense of focus. We just can't say the same for most of AKOM and Hot Space.
If you took away One Vision, Who Wants To Live Forever, and Princes Of The Universe, what's left on AKOM?
And if Hot Space doesn't have the last three tracks, what's left?
In both cases - not much.
Jealousy, Dead On Time, and In Only Seven Days are still quintessential Queen. Certainly they're not as strong as the non-singles on SHA or ANATO, but these tracks are far from filler. That said, they also do mark the end of the early Queen sound.
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This post is spot on for me.
[QUOTE] [b]Jimmy Dean wrote:[/b]
it really is Queen's worst album. If it didn't have 3 huge singles - more of you would agree. not only does it have the highest percentage of weak tracks, but it also has a bad running order and is in my opinion the worst-produced album in their catalog.[/QUOTE]
Partially agree, but I wouldn't go that far.
Jazz is the first time they're out in the wilderness a bit. They've sorted out their finances, and they're no longer hungry. But while the album has a few spotty bits and 2 or 3 of the tracks aren't up their standard set on the previous string of albums, it's far from their worst moment.
By the 80s they were way less focused and purely writing as individuals. They were still much more of a unit in 1978, and the lack of togetherness shows on many of the later albums. Hot Space and AKOM are far weaker - they are each half filler.
Jazz is sonically the weakest 70s Queen album for sure, but it has far too many redeeming features to be considered the worst in their catalogue. Fun It is the weakest track, but it's still far better than the derivative trite that is Pain Is So Close To Pleasure and Don't Lose Your Head.
When I think of an album with three hits and filler, I think of AKOM, not Jazz. Jazz, while weak at times, is still a band being artistic and maintaining some sense of focus. We just can't say the same for most of AKOM and Hot Space.
If you took away One Vision, Who Wants To Live Forever, and Princes Of The Universe, what's left on AKOM?
And if Hot Space doesn't have the last three tracks, what's left?
In both cases - not much.
Jealousy, Dead On Time, and In Only Seven Days are still quintessential Queen. Certainly they're not as strong as the non-singles on SHA or ANATO, but these tracks are far from filler. That said, they also do mark the end of the early Queen sound.
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This post is spot on for me.
mooghead
"and they're no longer hungry."
In what way? Financially? Success/fame wise? Had they done what they had set out to do at this point? Proved their point? Not disputing, just intrigued by the wording...
In what way? Financially? Success/fame wise? Had they done what they had set out to do at this point? Proved their point? Not disputing, just intrigued by the wording...
mooghead
It implies they got complacent.
And it shows with the Jazz album.
And it shows with the Jazz album.
Dim
Jazz is very experimental album, they tried to catch the changes of music scene, they wanted to find new sounds and having their Queen trademark.
I believe the production is the problem, that's why the album didn't live its expectations.
When I listen this album I use EQ, low the treble frequencies, boost little the bass, then it gains some depth and brilliance. The result is sonically very good.
I believe the production is the problem, that's why the album didn't live its expectations.
When I listen this album I use EQ, low the treble frequencies, boost little the bass, then it gains some depth and brilliance. The result is sonically very good.
mooghead
Nothing worse than an EQ wanker who judges music on a wave form...
Dim
Fuck off cum of flies
mooghead
I am better than you because I SEE the music. Shut up.
Dim
You have issues. Go to a doctor
mooghead
Start using your actual ears. Decide what you the sound of. It is ok. I like the Hollywood discs. I don't care. Free yourself...... I can fly my friends.......! (or does the line go flat by then?)
Saint Jiub
[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]
Start using your actual ears. Decide what you the sound of. It is ok. I like the Hollywood discs. I don't care. Free yourself...... I can fly my friends.......! (or does the line go flat by then?)[/QUOTE]
Go get a room with aristide. You two are made for each other.
Start using your actual ears. Decide what you the sound of. It is ok. I like the Hollywood discs. I don't care. Free yourself...... I can fly my friends.......! (or does the line go flat by then?)[/QUOTE]
Go get a room with aristide. You two are made for each other.
Jimmy Dean
i'm sticking with my guns - in my opinion - Jazz is the worst. not because it has the worst songs. but because of the combined effect of bad production, bad playlist and a lot of filler. and that's just my opinion. When I was 15, Jazz was my favorite album. At 33, time has given my a different opinion altogether.
I'm a huge fan of Dead on Time, If You Can't Beat Them, Mustapha, Let Me Entertain You, Fat Bottomed Girls, Bicycle Race, Don't Stop Me Now and Dreamer's Ball.... more than half the album.
Had Fun It, More Of That Jazz and In Only Seven Days been left off the album and been B-sides in instead... change the running order... and lose the absolute shite RTB production ---> top 5 Queen album.
as a whole album - in its entirety - the way it stands - Jazz is at the bottom. I enjoy Flash Gordon, AKOM, Hot Space and my 2nd least favorite album, The Works more than Jazz.
I'm a huge fan of Dead on Time, If You Can't Beat Them, Mustapha, Let Me Entertain You, Fat Bottomed Girls, Bicycle Race, Don't Stop Me Now and Dreamer's Ball.... more than half the album.
Had Fun It, More Of That Jazz and In Only Seven Days been left off the album and been B-sides in instead... change the running order... and lose the absolute shite RTB production ---> top 5 Queen album.
as a whole album - in its entirety - the way it stands - Jazz is at the bottom. I enjoy Flash Gordon, AKOM, Hot Space and my 2nd least favorite album, The Works more than Jazz.
Jimmy Dean
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Jimmy Dean wrote:[/b]
it really is Queen's worst album. If it didn't have 3 huge singles - more of you would agree. not only does it have the highest percentage of weak tracks, but it also has a bad running order and is in my opinion the worst-produced album in their catalog.[/QUOTE]
Partially agree, but I wouldn't go that far.
Jazz is the first time they're out in the wilderness a bit. They've sorted out their finances, and they're no longer hungry. But while the album has a few spotty bits and 2 or 3 of the tracks aren't up their standard set on the previous string of albums, it's far from their worst moment.
By the 80s they were way less focused and purely writing as individuals. They were still much more of a unit in 1978, and the lack of togetherness shows on many of the later albums. Hot Space and AKOM are far weaker - they are each half filler.
Jazz is sonically the weakest 70s Queen album for sure, but it has far too many redeeming features to be considered the worst in their catalogue. Fun It is the weakest track, but it's still far better than the derivative trite that is Pain Is So Close To Pleasure and Don't Lose Your Head.
When I think of an album with three hits and filler, I think of AKOM, not Jazz. Jazz, while weak at times, is still a band being artistic and maintaining some sense of focus. We just can't say the same for most of AKOM and Hot Space.
If you took away One Vision, Who Wants To Live Forever, and Princes Of The Universe, what's left on AKOM?
And if Hot Space doesn't have the last three tracks, what's left?
In both cases - not much.
Jealousy, Dead On Time, and In Only Seven Days are still quintessential Queen. Certainly they're not as strong as the non-singles on SHA or ANATO, but these tracks are far from filler. That said, they also do mark the end of the early Queen sound.
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This post is spot on for me. [/QUOTE]
While I agree with the spirit of Bob's post - and this is for bob - you mean to say re: AKOM - A Kind of Magic (title track) is filler? I agree otherwise - but i've always liked Gimme The Prize in addition.
Hot Space - the last 3 tracks? what's wrong with the entire Side B minus Cool Cat? and Side A is pretty strong minus Dancer. Hot Space would have been a very different album if they dropped Dancer, had Another One Bites the Dust as track 2 and dropped Cool Cat.
I agree with everything else you said. But i still think Jazz is their weakest. My bottom five are Jazz, Flash Gordon, AKOM, The Works and Hot Space. Although, I'm starting to change my mind on the Works lately.
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Jimmy Dean wrote:[/b]
it really is Queen's worst album. If it didn't have 3 huge singles - more of you would agree. not only does it have the highest percentage of weak tracks, but it also has a bad running order and is in my opinion the worst-produced album in their catalog.[/QUOTE]
Partially agree, but I wouldn't go that far.
Jazz is the first time they're out in the wilderness a bit. They've sorted out their finances, and they're no longer hungry. But while the album has a few spotty bits and 2 or 3 of the tracks aren't up their standard set on the previous string of albums, it's far from their worst moment.
By the 80s they were way less focused and purely writing as individuals. They were still much more of a unit in 1978, and the lack of togetherness shows on many of the later albums. Hot Space and AKOM are far weaker - they are each half filler.
Jazz is sonically the weakest 70s Queen album for sure, but it has far too many redeeming features to be considered the worst in their catalogue. Fun It is the weakest track, but it's still far better than the derivative trite that is Pain Is So Close To Pleasure and Don't Lose Your Head.
When I think of an album with three hits and filler, I think of AKOM, not Jazz. Jazz, while weak at times, is still a band being artistic and maintaining some sense of focus. We just can't say the same for most of AKOM and Hot Space.
If you took away One Vision, Who Wants To Live Forever, and Princes Of The Universe, what's left on AKOM?
And if Hot Space doesn't have the last three tracks, what's left?
In both cases - not much.
Jealousy, Dead On Time, and In Only Seven Days are still quintessential Queen. Certainly they're not as strong as the non-singles on SHA or ANATO, but these tracks are far from filler. That said, they also do mark the end of the early Queen sound.
[/QUOTE]
This post is spot on for me. [/QUOTE]
While I agree with the spirit of Bob's post - and this is for bob - you mean to say re: AKOM - A Kind of Magic (title track) is filler? I agree otherwise - but i've always liked Gimme The Prize in addition.
Hot Space - the last 3 tracks? what's wrong with the entire Side B minus Cool Cat? and Side A is pretty strong minus Dancer. Hot Space would have been a very different album if they dropped Dancer, had Another One Bites the Dust as track 2 and dropped Cool Cat.
I agree with everything else you said. But i still think Jazz is their weakest. My bottom five are Jazz, Flash Gordon, AKOM, The Works and Hot Space. Although, I'm starting to change my mind on the Works lately.