runner_70 stop trying to justify your views by claiming to speak for the masses.
I, like many others, have been a fan since the early 70's and enjoy what they are doing, some don't but many old and new fans do. Out of the millions of people world wide this encompasses there are only two who seem to need to bulldoze there hate for this band over everyone. And in doing so you achieve nothing really.
snifflese · Member since
I realize all these things about Freddie, of course. But, they don't have much to do with what is going on right now. You people get worked up into a frenzy here and keep saying the same tired old stuff. It just doesn't have much to do with now. Now is what people here should be discussing. Go to a Queen thread to discuss Freddie's trials and tribulations 30 plus years ago. How that affects this group, right now, I am not sure. Mentioning once OK, but you repeat it ad naseum. You are never going to like Adam. No problem, but how many different ways can you say it? I happen to think Adam will be OK without singing with Queen later on. This is a wonderful chapter in his life and I think he is smart to take advantage of this neat experience. It is like living a dream, but he will be fine no matter what. With a voice like that, there always will be opportunities.We don't know what his new music will be like and there is always Broadway. I think singing with Queen has been wonderful for Adam, but he has helped make QAL what it is. They would not be performing to bigger crowds with almost universal acclaim if he was not part of this regarless of what you thing. We will just have to differ on that. And you don't have to resort to foul language again, Icy. I think the spun up person is you, Icy, as you can't abide anything said about Freddie that isn't 100% butt kissing and that is your problem! Not mine!
snifflese · Member since
I realize all these things about Freddie, of course. But, they don't have much to do with what is going on right now. You people get worked up into a frenzy here and keep saying the same tired old stuff. It just doesn't have much to do with now. Now is what people here should be discussing. Go to a Queen thread to discuss Freddie's trials and tribulations 30 plus years ago. How that affects this group, right now, I am not sure. Mentioning once OK, but you repeat it ad naseum. You are never going to like Adam. No problem, but how many different ways can you say it? I happen to think Adam will be OK without singing with Queen later on. This is a wonderful chapter in his life and I think he is smart to take advantage of this neat experience. It is like living a dream, but he will be fine no matter what. With a voice like that, there always will be opportunities.We don't know what his new music will be like and there is always Broadway. I think singing with Queen has been wonderful for Adam, but he has helped make QAL what it is. They would not be performing to bigger crowds with almost universal acclaim if he was not part of this regarless of what you think. We will just have to differ on that. And you don't have to resort to foul language again, Icy. I think the spun up person is you, Icy, as you can't abide anything said about Freddie that isn't 100% butt kissing and that is your problem! Not mine! Living in the past is never good for anyone.
runner_70 · Member since
MAylor could pair up with Miss Piggy - if they would call it "QUeen plus" they sell tickets automatically. WIth the difference I would rather listen to Miss Piggy than the guy who is fronting them now. The argument that thos "millions" (???) of Fans are getting a kick of it: Bieber and Spears are also enjoyed by lots which does not mean they are great in any way. (At least they make albums still)
snifflese · Member since
You have misread what I wrote, must be the fact you are not a native English speaker. There is no one on this forum that thinks that! Anyone knows that Freddie and Queen were the best ever and nothing will surpass that. Right now, however, Adam is singing for them and they are doing very well. I think there is not another singer who could sing the catalog and be as close to Freddie in vocal range and charisma as Adam He is making all of this work. QPR was not nearly as successful and anything you read, says that very thing. I am not making it up out of thin air. Bieber and poor singers like that just aren't going to cut it. It has to be someone with the vocal range and the swagger to carry the songs. Adam fills the bill and they have been doing this for 5 years and it keeps getting bigger and better. I am sure if Brian and Roger were not getting up in years, the tours would be even longer. There is a huge demand and not to recognize Adam's part in it is ridiculous! I don't think this would have developed the way it has with any other singer, But that doesn't take away from the majesty of the original Queen. I just don't think that tabloids treating Freddie poorly has much to do with now!
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
Why do I need to discuss Freddie when we are discussing QAL???[/QUOTE]
Because if you understood how the tabloids hounded Freddie for the last year of his life, you'd be appalled like the people who are trying to talk some sense into you.
I get that you're into the current project and a big fan of Lambert, but history is still history, and bygones sometimes aren't bygones. The paparazzi were horrific to Mercury, and you aren't going to get Queen fans who were around back then to forget that in favour of marketing a project that just isn't going to matter ten years from now.
Reality check - this tour, great as it is, is a postscript.
snifflese · Member since
Nobody is disputing that, but it doesn't matter to me about tabloids and reviews. That is an interesting factoid and I am sorry it happened, but what does that have to do with now? It isn't worth spending post after post about it. I now know that piece of info and I appreciate the history lesson, but it's done. Somehow for most of these people it turns into another way to slam QAL and Adam in particular. I also disagree that this is a marketing project. I think Roger and Brian just love to perform, what real musician doesn't? You will never convince me it is all about the money. They are hugely enjoying this and it goes beyond the dollars and cents. This is also a part of Queen's history, albeit a small part.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
I realize all these things about Freddie, of course. But, they don't have much to do with what is going on right now. You people get worked up into a frenzy here and keep saying the same tired old stuff. It just doesn't have much to do with now. Now is what people here should be discussing. Go to a Queen thread to discuss Freddie's trials and tribulations 30 plus years ago. How that affects this group, right now, I am not sure. Mentioning once OK, but you repeat it ad naseum. You are never going to like Adam. No problem, but how many different ways can you say it? I happen to think Adam will be OK without singing with Queen later on. This is a wonderful chapter in his life and I think he is smart to take advantage of this neat experience. It is like living a dream, but he will be fine no matter what. With a voice like that, there always will be opportunities.We don't know what his new music will be like and there is always Broadway. I think singing with Queen has been wonderful for Adam, but he has helped make QAL what it is. They would not be performing to bigger crowds with almost universal acclaim if he was not part of this regarless of what you think. We will just have to differ on that. And you don't have to resort to foul language again, Icy. I think the spun up person is you, Icy, as you can't abide anything said about Freddie that isn't 100% butt kissing and that is your problem! Not mine! Living in the past is never good for anyone.[/QUOTE]
Wow, you are something else.
Yes, it matters what Freddie went through because of he tabloids. Can you really not see that? Do you really think any good reviews by the tabloids have for Q+AL makes what happened to Freddie 'not matter'? If so, you are clueless and insensitive. Nothing the tabloids can do for Q+AL will make what happened to Freddie any less horrible.
It matters. I wouldn't wish the tabloids to hound anyone when they are healthy, when they are sick and dying, it's even more disgusting. But hey, none of that matters because Q+AL gets rave reviews, and AL gets attention for his vocals, according to you.
Why must we discuss things now? Are you that bothered when people dare bring up Freddie's name? Are you worried by bringing Freddie up it might take away attention from AL or something. I think you are very envious and bitter of Freddie's legacy...maybe because AL is nowhere near that legacy. AL is a guest singing Queen songs. He wouldn't be where he is now, without the legacy of Queen. It's a fact AL's solo concerts have never sold as much as Q+ tickets, that there should tell you people who buy Q+ tickets are not doing it because of AL. I'm pretty damn sure the music and Brian and Roger have much to do with that too, maybe even more. But go ahead, go live in your AL bubble. That bubble which will burst once Q+AL ends. What will you discuss then, I wonder? That he is doing 'ok'. Time will tell.
Nope, I have never kissed Freddie's butt. I don't kiss anyone's butt. If you could actually read without twisting my posts, you would know I hate everything to do with POTF. I even hate Freddie's vocal on it. I think it's the worst track Queen ever did. And I've said that before, so no butt kissing 100% from me. Which is rich coming from you, because it's clear as day, your head is so up AL's butt, you can't see anything else. Are you his spokesperson or something? Whatever you are, you are not doing AL or Q+ AL any favors.
Nope, I'm not the spun up person here. At least two posts had you post the reply that you are "driven nuts". If posts on a couple of Queen boards drive you nuts, then it's not the right place for you I figure.
runner_70 · Member since
Snifflese - serious question: SOme tabloid is saying horried homophobic things about him. For years . A few years later he is joining a band and he puts up links to the same tabloids that haunted him years ago. YOu would really be ok with it? Of so you have no empathy at all tbh
runner_70 · Member since
And you still dont seem to get it. Those links are the simple proof that there is a) no quality control in the Queen camp anymore or b) Maylor use everything and everyone to make a buck even if its somethin they once clearly hated. Same with their current singer. A casting muppet they hated years ago - now they tour with such a clown. Sad....
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
Nobody is disputing that, but it doesn't matter to me about tabloids and reviews.[/QUOTE]
...which is precisely why you aren't part of the dialogue. You aren't a Queen fan.
You really are wasting your time if you think you can come to a Queen forum and minimize a major part of their history.
Numerous people are spelling out the obvious to you, but you are clearly (at best) too thick and (at worst) lacking in basic levels of human empathy to understand it.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
Same with their current singer. A casting muppet they hated years ago[/QUOTE]
When did they hate Lambert?
runner_70 · Member since
They hated casting muppets in General and even made a song about those clowns-C-lebrity.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
Why do I need to discuss Freddie when we are discussing QAL???[/QUOTE]
Because if you understood how the tabloids hounded Freddie for the last year of his life, you'd be appalled like the people who are trying to talk some sense into you.
I get that you're into the current project and a big fan of Lambert, but history is still history, and bygones sometimes aren't bygones. The paparazzi were horrific to Mercury, and you aren't going to get Queen fans who were around back then to forget that in favour of marketing a project that just isn't going to matter ten years from now.
Reality check - this tour, great as it is, is a postscript.
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Thank you.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
Nobody is disputing that, but it doesn't matter to me about tabloids and reviews.[/QUOTE]
...which is precisely why you aren't part of the dialogue. You aren't a Queen fan.
You really are wasting your time if you think you can come to a Queen forum and minimize a major part of their history.
Numerous people are spelling out the obvious to you, but you are clearly (at best) too thick and (at worst) lacking in basic levels of human empathy to understand it.
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