Roy Thomas Baker

[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]

I've now read that he was part owner of Trident. That explains alot. [/QUOTE]


Jazz wasn't recorded at Trident so that definitely wouldn't be a reason to hire him again for that album!

I guess like I said,he brought something to the tablet.

[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]

I've now read that he was part owner of Trident. That explains alot. [/QUOTE]

Technically, he was part-owner of Neptune Productions, rather than Trident per se.

[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]

Jazz wasn't recorded at Trident so that definitely wouldn't be a reason to hire him again for that album![/QUOTE]

The severance took place in January or February 1978. One of the clauses may have been doing one more album with someone from Neptune Productions. It's just a possibility... but the timeline would make sense.

[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]

I guess like I said,he brought something to the tablet.[/QUOTE]

But how much of that was Roy and how much of that was Mike?

Keep in mind that:

- The debut album was chiefly produced by John Anthony rather than Roy.
- Two and a half songs on 'Queen II' were Robin + Mike and had no Roy involvement.
- 'Races' and 'News' have Mike but not Roy, 'Jazz' has Roy but not Mike - and what a difference in sound!

'The severance took place in January or February 1978. One of the clauses may have been doing one more album with someone from Neptune Productions. It's just a possibility... but the timeline would make sense.'

This would also be my suggestion.

i am a fan of Roy Thomas Baker because he brought the very best out of Queen. For me Mack was not as good as RTB.

Mack was ok. It was a different sound, a different era.

[QUOTE] [b]happystar wrote:[/b]

i am a fan of Roy Thomas Baker because he brought the very best out of Queen. For me Mack was not as good as RTB.[/QUOTE]

Again, a lot of that could be Mike rather than Roy.

We can all agree that who ever helped Queen in their music was talented, except Paul Prenter.

"For me Mack was not as good as RTB."

I hate shit like this. Imagine Mack producing ANATO or RTB producing The Game. They were the best at that point in time who did what they did. Utterly crucial to making Queen what they were and became.

Can you imagine how horrific it would all sound if Rick fucking Rubin had a shot?

A couple of other threads reminded me to look in my Ian Hunter folder for the first time in years. I realised that RTB produced IH's 1977 album - which isn't sonically a million miles from Jazz. We know Queen were IH fans. Maybe that added to the reason to have him. Certainly having a producer they were comfortable with who was good a US FM rock. Nailing their popularity in America was surely on their minds after NOTW.

Interesting too how IH's albums around that time featured members of Bowie's current band. I'd forgotten how Earl Slick replaced Ronson TWICE.

Happystar your comment regarding Mack is interesting as in the past you've said that Hot Space is one of your favourite Queen albums.

Just imagine Rudy Van Gelder producing a Queen-album. Now that would be something different!

[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]

The severance took place in January or February 1978. One of the clauses may have been doing one more album with someone from Neptune Productions. It's just a possibility... but the timeline would make sense.[/QUOTE]

My apologies - this was wrong. Apparently it was the severance with John Reid that took place in early '78 - they'd officially left Trident in '77. So I was wrong about that.

However, John Reid was also Roy's manager. They were all connected like in a 'Saw' film.

VH : Yeah "Hot Space" is a good album and one of my favourites but the production of it would have been amazing if RTB had worked on it.