Freddies personal motivation (for becomming a legend)
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anderssteen · Member since
I'm am going to give a short talk at my college - which is a music conservatory in Denmark. I will talk about the importance of being aware of ones own motivation as to avoid a sudden and unexpected absence of it.
I would like to use Freddie as an example of very strong motivation and perseverance, and I would like to know if anyone here has given the subject some thought.
What I would like to hear your views on are:
1)
What motivated Freddie to pursue his dream of becoming rock star and legend?
2)
Dis his motivation for giving it a 100% on stage and in studio relate to what made him live his life as he did ~ giving it a 100% at the night clubs?
3)
Did his motivation grow or recline during his career or was it 100% from beginning to end?
Or other angles on the subject.
Every view will be appreciated!
oligneisti · Member since
After reading a lot and going through documentaries my theory is that Freddie was simply bullied at school, being called Bucky probably wasn't fun. This would explain why he ignored people from his past and avoided talking about it. So, trying to be bigger and better in everything was a way the show the bullies that they were wrong about him.
pittrek · Member since
1) He wanted to
2) I don't get it. Are you suggesting that all gay people are good at their work? Or what are you suggesting?
3) You can clearly see from his interviews that he was at least thinking about leaving Queen in the early 80's, but wanted to get back as soon as his album came out and Queen fans hated it. After he found out he had AIDS he wanted to be as creative as possible, so you could say his motivation grew during the last 2 years of his life
anderssteen · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
1) He wanted to
2) I don't get it. Are you suggesting that all gay people are good at their work? Or what are you suggesting?
3) You can clearly see from his interviews that he was at least thinking about leaving Queen in the early 80's, but wanted to get back as soon as his album came out and Queen fans hated it. After he found out he had AIDS he wanted to be as creative as possible, so you could say his motivation grew during the last 2 years of his life[/QUOTE]
I am looking for views on his motivation. If you don't have any, don't waste your time replying.
Vocal harmony · Member since
I would say he was very creatively driven, but that creativity fed off what the band did in the early days
In the early 80's at the point he signed a solo deal it was power. The power not to have to work within four equals and the power of a huge advance from his record company.
As Pittrek says after the failure of his solo career and after the onset of his illness his motivation came from what he knew and where he felt at home, back to beginning in a way.
But remember none of us really know, you need to ask these questions amongst the people he knew and worked with
anderssteen · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]oligneisti wrote:[/b]
After reading a lot and going through documentaries my theory is that Freddie was simply bullied at school, being called Bucky probably wasn't fun. This would explain why he ignored people from his past and avoided talking about it. So, trying to be bigger and better in everything was a way the show the bullies that they were wrong about him.[/QUOTE]
Yes, off course. I never thought about Bucky being a negative nickname - would it be referring to his teeth or?
The interesting thing is also that he is always portrayed as being very kind and a good friend, as I imagine having a rough childhood could produce quite the opposite adult as well.
anderssteen · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
I would say he was very creatively driven, but that creativity fed off what the band did in the early days
In the early 80's at the point he signed a solo deal it was power. The power not to have to work within four equals and the power of a huge advance from his record company.
As Pittrek says after the failure of his solo career and after the onset of his illness his motivation came from what he knew and where he felt at home, back to beginning in a way.
But remember none of us really know, you need to ask these questions amongst the people he knew and worked with[/QUOTE]
Again I'm looking for views NOT answers. But thank you very much for your views.
dudeofqueen · Member since
Should be a short talk.
"Good evening. Freddie Mercury's personal motivation - for becoming a legend - was that he had a talent as a singer and was able to develop that to make something of his life, as opposed to gambling on a career as an artist or a market trader in the highly competitive melting pot that London was in the late 60's. Thank you for coming."
aristide1 · Member since
From every angle of the subject the perspective is the same. Getting dick was Freddies main motivation.
Are you prepared to talk about it or just ask people to invent fashionable motivations fitting your purposes?
And repeating 100% three times does not add scientific value to your dumb questions.
Invisible Woman · Member since
My opinion is this: he knew how good he was as a singer and as a musician. He used his talent, fortunately. It would be a pity if he didn't.And he liked to sing and make music. Who is really worth can becomes a legend, who doesn't worth, no. Simply.
anderssteen · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]aristide1 wrote:[/b]
From every angle of the subject the perspective is the same. Getting dick was Freddies main motivation.
Are you prepared to talk about it or just ask people to invent fashionable motivations fitting your purposes?
And repeating 100% three times does not add scientific value to your dumb questions.[/QUOTE]
Interesting view. I have absolutely no problems talking about sexual preferences.
What makes you think that I am looking for fitting replies of a fashionable character?
And once again I'm NOT asking questions. Are you dumb?
anderssteen · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]
Should be a short talk.
"Good evening. Freddie Mercury's personal motivation - for becoming a legend - was that he had a talent as a singer and was able to develop that to make something of his life, as opposed to gambling on a career as an artist or a market trader in the highly competitive melting pot that London was in the late 60's. Thank you for coming."[/QUOTE]
As the original post states, the talk will not be about Freddie, but I would just use him as an example, so maybe it can be a bit longer.
I do not agree with you view that talent comes before motivation (if that's what you are saying). Actually I believe the directly opposite.
anderssteen · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Invisible Woman wrote:[/b]
My opinion is this: he knew how good he was as a singer and as a musician. He used his talent, fortunately. It would be a pity if he didn't.And he liked to sing and make music. Who is really worth can becomes a legend, who doesn't worth, no. Simply.[/QUOTE]
Do you think that his motivation was that "it would be a pity not to"?
Saint Jiub · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]anderssteen wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]
Should be a short talk.
"Good evening. Freddie Mercury's personal motivation - for becoming a legend - was that he had a talent as a singer and was able to develop that to make something of his life, as opposed to gambling on a career as an artist or a market trader in the highly competitive melting pot that London was in the late 60's. Thank you for coming."[/QUOTE]
As the original post states, the talk will not be about Freddie, but I would just use him as an example, so maybe it can be a bit longer.
I do not agree with you view that talent comes before motivation (if that's what you are saying). Actually I believe the directly opposite.
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I believe that talent can help provide motivation. However, I do not believe that talent comes before motivation, nor do I believe talent comes before motivation, and I'll use myself as an example:
When I was a lad I wanted to be a good basketball player, I always hustled, but I still sucked. I was highly motivated to improve as a basketball and even attended a weekend Milwalkee Bucks NBA basketball camp. It didn't matter. I still sucked. I continued to enjoy playing basketball later in life, but ceased to care that I sucked at basketball.
Jimmy Dean · Member since
i don't think he *wanted* to become a legend. he worked at being the best. he always had a great voice, but he chiseled it into the greatest voice. he learned how to write songs like everyone else - listen, interpret, copy, and then give it his own spin. but he worked at it.... he wrote BohRhap, then we Are the Champions. Interestingly enough, Freddie could not have become a legend without support. He didn't make people support him - support came from different levels... those that supported him for personal gain... those that supported him genuinely and those out of mutual support.
If Freddie never met Brian and Roger... If they had better management from the get go and started making money with Sheer Heart Attack... If they wrote Duck Soup after ADATR instead of NOTW.... If John Deacon didn't come up with the baseline for Another One Bites The Dust or Roger to craft Radio Ga Ga... Freddie would probably not be a legend.
Whether he wanted to be a legend or not is no different than any 5 year old wanting to be a legend too. Freddie had a great work ethic, great voice, and an open mind. That along with a lot of luck were the keys to his success.