[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
This is for nasty icy since she has convinced herself it is the one and only song Adam sings well:
http://youtu.be/NBHSy6-PmI0
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Shocker, back with a video and a weak clap back. Don't post videos on my account, because I won't be watching it.
You might notice that during this discussion on looks, Icy has to drag Caroline into it(several times for no good reason) as one of those deluded Glamberts who thinks Adam is attractive. Then she complains that Caroline is always out to get her whereas Icy is the one who always instigates this stuff.
I believe way back when, Caroline made some comment about Adam being a sexy beast because folks on QOL were making fun of him and his "campy" style and just derogatory remarks in general. I am sure you can guess the nature of them. Caroline defended him and since then Icy has thrown this at her. I don't think Caroline has the hots for Adam. She just came to his defense. I am in my 60's and have the hots for no one, but I can still appreciate a good looking fellow. Nothing wrong with that!
Of course good looking people who also have talent, star power, etc are going to have an easier time being successful. I personally think Elvis would never have gotten where he was without his good looks. Nowadays it might be a little easier, but in years past good looks were very important. The Voice bases its whole show on this premise. Of course, you can be successful if you are homely, but it is harder. Good looks is something that makes you stand out and if you then have the requisite voice or talent and determination, it will be easier for you to be successful.
Freddie might have had an easier go with it because of the rest of the band. He was certainly no looker with those big buck teeth and his in your face style on stage. I remember them from the early years, thinking Brian was dreamy and Roger quite handsome and Freddie kind of scared me. He might have had a harder time becoming popular had he been a solo act. Back in the 1970's and 1980's looks were very important. It is not just in music as I believe people who are good looking initially have an easier time in just about any career choice. Read any pop psychology and they will tell you that. Check out the really successful politicians where it doesn't hurt to be easy on the eyes! Looks are esp important in Hollywood and the entertainment field and you are fooling yourself if you think that is not the case. You can still make it, but it will be much harder.
Adam is lucky to have charisma, an engaging personality, a tongue in cheek humor, a stellar voice and massive good looks. These may not affect how you hear his recorded music, but they certainly affect you when you see a performance. Appreciating all these things makes you a fan and some folks are super fans, but lusting is not a prerequsite!
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
You might notice that during this discussion on looks, Icy has to drag Caroline into it(several times for no good reason) as one of those deluded Glamberts who thinks Adam is attractive. Then she complains that Caroline is always out to get her whereas Icy is the one who always instigates this stuff.
I believe way back when, Caroline made some comment about Adam being a sexy beast because folks on QOL were making fun of him and his "campy" style and just derogatory remarks in general. I am sure you can guess the nature of them. Caroline defended him and since then Icy has thrown this at her. I don't think Caroline has the hots for Adam. She just came to his defense. I am in my 60's and have the hots for no one, but I can still appreciate a good looking fellow. Nothing wrong with that!
Of course good looking people who also have talent, star power, etc are going to have an easier time being successful. I personally think Elvis would never have gotten where he was without his good looks. Nowadays it might be a little easier, but in years past good looks were very important. The Voice bases its whole show on this premise. Of course, you can be successful if you are homely, but it is harder. Good looks is something that makes you stand out and if you then have the requisite voice or talent and determination, it will be easier for you to be successful.
Freddie might have had an easier go with it because of the rest of the band. He was certainly no looker with those big buck teeth and his in your face style on stage. I remember them from the early years, thinking Brian was dreamy and Roger quite handsome and Freddie kind of scared me. He might have had a harder time becoming popular had he been a solo act. Back in the 1970's and 1980's looks were very important. It is not just in music as I believe people who are good looking initially have an easier time in just about any career choice. Read any pop psychology and they will tell you that. Check out the really successful politicians where it doesn't hurt to be easy on the eyes! Looks are esp important in Hollywood and the entertainment field and you are fooling yourself if you think that is not the case. You can still make it, but it will be much harder.
Adam is lucky to have charisma, an engaging personality, a tongue in cheek humor, a stellar voice and massive good looks. These may not affect how you hear his recorded music, but they certainly affect you when you see a performance. Appreciating all these things makes you a fan and some folks are super fans, but lusting is not a prerequsite!
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Sweetcaroline came here last August as soon as she could to try and start a thread about AL is so goo ( good ) looking. In it she said AL was gorgeous. It's on the first page of this sub forum, go look it's still there. She can't help herself to post how sexy, gorgeous, handsome, good looking she thinks she is. But LMAO she did all that to try to defend Adam?! What the fuck? Is that really her reasons for it? It's crazier than I even thought. Just know, I didn't bring what she said out of nowhere. It's obvious more than ever now, some Glamberts are heavily invested in how they think AL looks. Sweetcaroline is one of those people, how many times has she said AL is sexy, gorgeous, handsome, good looking? Countless times really, and anytime she saw fit, but now according to you it was done to defend him. And you know this because? It made more sense if she simply thought he was sexy, gorgeous etc.
Freddie was no looked with his big buck teeth and his in your face style onstage and he kind of scared you? Spoken like a true Queen fan once again *sarcasm*. How did you manage to watch and listen to Freddie if he kind of scared you? What on Earth was it about Freddie that scared you? Good grief.
In all the music I like, how the singer or any other members of the band looks comes last for me. I think rockchic mentioned Elton John, no doubt he is a legend, and it sure isn't based on his looks. George Michael's Listen Without Prejudice is a great example of looks not being so important to him and his fans. Praying For Time and Freedom 90, heck of couple of songs, and the videos he didn't appear on. It still worked.
I'm okay, more than okay in how I feel about a person's like not being so important. I feel sad and sorry for the people here ( 3 now ) who are so heavily invested in how AL looks. And your snifflese, so quick to point out about Freddie's big buck teeth and how he scared you. Looks aren't everything. God forbid, if AL ever has an injury that messes up his looks somehow, because I think that would be a sad day for you and sweetcaroline. Leaving someonewholovesadam out of that much, because I don't know her much.
You mentioned you are in your 60s, snifflese. Do you use products to try to look younger by any chance? Would you want to use products to try to look younger? Genuine question.
AL is lucky that he is riding on Brian's and Roger's coattails when it comes to his career. I think I could say without Brian and Roger he would be struggling in his solo music. Not so much to do with music, but the lack of good music. You say about Freddie's big buck teeth, in your face style and he scared you. Guess what? He made it anyways and became a legend and that should tell you something right there.
Back in the day I rarely saw the Queen unless it was in a teen magazine, but there was something about Freddie that scared me, don't ask me why, I couldn't tell you, but that is what I felt. To each his own. I loved him singing, but that was a purely auditory experience and looks can't enter into that.
I would still enjoy Adam if he were less handsome, that is not the ultimate for me and I din't say that. I simply stated that good looks are a help in any endeavor, esp anything to do with politics and the entertainment business. Often when I hear music I have no idea what an artist looks like and that doesn't add or take away from my enjoyment, but in a performance looks do influence it just as much as a performer having charm or a natural presence on stage. I would love Adam't voice no matter what he looked like, but a great big fat Adam might not be quite so attractive on stage. There are not many big fat performer (other than opera) for a reason!
Nope, I don't believe in doing any kind of enhancement, wouldn't even think of it. I have never even been a person who wears make up daily, only when I do go out and now not even then sometimes. It depends on how special the occasion is. I am a jeans wearing, no frills kind of a person! I have never been into fashion or worried about what I looked like! I have been married for 46 years and my husband is obviously OK with how I look. That is the only thing that is important now.
snifflese, we have so much in common. I would have been married 48 years this year if my poor husband wouldn’t have died from a sudden, massive heart attack right before his 36th birthday!
I discovered Adam very accidentally
when I tuned into AI and saw him perform “Satisfactiom.” My first impression was that his profile resembled Elvis and his voice was out of this world. I was not a regular viewer so did not see his audition of BoRhap or when he performed MJ’s “Black or White.” Then I just happened to tune in when it was country week and he performed that totally amazing version of “Ring Of Fire” and have been a fan ever since. I certainly do not “lust” after him and never have. I look at him more like another son. As usual, icy has it all wrong! Anyway I enjoy being his fan and love that he fits so well with Queen.
I didn’t get to be an Elvis fan, was too busy raising two little kids. Adam has been my Elvis. He is an amazing person and talent and I’m happy for the wonderful relationship he has with Brian, Roger, Neil, Spike, Tyler and Rufus when he was there. He is not riding on anyone’s coattails because he more than holds up his part of the bargain.
snifflese, we have so much in common. I would have been married 48 years this year if my poor husband wouldn’t have died from a sudden, massive heart attack right before his 36th birthday!
I discovered Adam very accidentally
when I tuned into AI and saw him perform “Satisfactiom.” My first impression was that his profile resembled Elvis and his voice was out of this world. I was not a regular viewer so did not see his audition of BoRhap or when he performed MJ’s “Black or White.” Then I just happened to tune in when it was country week and he performed that totally amazing version of “Ring Of Fire” and have been a fan ever since. I certainly do not “lust” after him and never have. I look at him more like another son. As usual, icy has it all wrong! Anyway I enjoy being his fan and love that he fits so well with Queen.
I didn’t get to be an Elvis fan, was too busy raising two little kids. Adam has been my Elvis. He is an amazing person and talent and I’m happy for the wonderful relationship he has with Brian, Roger, Neil, Spike, Tyler and Rufus when he was there. He is not riding on anyone’s coattails because he more than holds up his part of the bargain.
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
Back in the day I rarely saw the Queen unless it was in a teen magazine, but there was something about Freddie that scared me, don't ask me why, I couldn't tell you, but that is what I felt. To each his own. I loved him singing, but that was a purely auditory experience and looks can't enter into that.
I would still enjoy Adam if he were less handsome, that is not the ultimate for me and I din't say that. I simply stated that good looks are a help in any endeavor, esp anything to do with politics and the entertainment business. Often when I hear music I have no idea what an artist looks like and that doesn't add or take away from my enjoyment, but in a performance looks do influence it just as much as a performer having charm or a natural presence on stage. I would love Adam't voice no matter what he looked like, but a great big fat Adam might not be quite so attractive on stage. There are not many big fat performer (other than opera) for a reason!
Nope, I don't believe in doing any kind of enhancement, wouldn't even think of it. I have never even been a person who wears make up daily, only when I do go out and now not even then sometimes. It depends on how special the occasion is. I am a jeans wearing, no frills kind of a person! I have never been into fashion or worried about what I looked like! I have been married for 46 years and my husband is obviously OK with how I look. That is the only thing that is important now.[/QUOTE]
Were Queen the type of band teeny bopper magazines would write about? I'm not so sure. They weren't heart throbs, although I'm sure some fans thought of them that way. I didn't, because I wasn't aware of the band and became a fan until after Freddie passed away.
I've been trying to think what it was about Freddie that kind of scared you. I can't come up with anything. He had different personas onstage and off, I think most musicians do.
Thanks for answering my question. I'm actually glad to know you would still like AL if he were less handsome. I read elsewhere every now and then, twitter, Adamtopia, and I feel it's a shame so many Glamberts are invested in how he looks. It's a shame, cause I will say it, although you already know, there's so much more to him, Freddie etc than how they look. Freddie sure had changed his looks so many times in his career, as for his "big buck teeth" I think that humanised him a bit. I like how he didn't change that part of him.
Thanks for answering my other question too, I appreciate it. I wish I had your confidence. We have the rarely wearing make up, jean wearing in common. See, there are things we have in common ;-).
Congratulations on being married for 46 years, that's genuinely incredible.
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
snifflese, we have so much in common. I would have been married 48 years this year if my poor husband wouldn’t have died from a sudden, massive heart attack right before his 36th birthday!
I discovered Adam very accidentally
when I tuned into AI and saw him perform “Satisfactiom.” My first impression was that his profile resembled Elvis and his voice was out of this world. I was not a regular viewer so did not see his audition of BoRhap or when he performed MJ’s “Black or White.” Then I just happened to tune in when it was country week and he performed that totally amazing version of “Ring Of Fire” and have been a fan ever since. I certainly do not “lust” after him and never have. I look at him more like another son. As usual, icy has it all wrong! Anyway I enjoy being his fan and love that he fits so well with Queen.
I didn’t get to be an Elvis fan, was too busy raising two little kids. Adam has been my Elvis. He is an amazing person and talent and I’m happy for the wonderful relationship he has with Brian, Roger, Neil, Spike, Tyler and Rufus when he was there. He is not riding on anyone’s coattails because he more than holds up his part of the bargain.
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To lose your husband like that, I'm genuinely sorry sweetcaroline.
I remember watching AL's season of AI, and I never thought he had a resemblance to Elvis, looks, or sounds wise. I though he was his own person, one of very few who had his own thing going on more often than not. Good for him I say.
Please be honest, because your posts are still there and mostly over there. I don't have it wrong at all. I don't know if I would call it lust, but you have posted plenty about how AL looks on both Queen boards. You post how sexy and gorgeous he is, then turn around and say you look at him as another son. Did you call him sexy, gorgeous to defend him? Is the reason you look at him as another son, the reason why you defend him? I'm trying to understand your way of thinking about it.
I think he is riding on Brian's and Roger's coattails. What part of the bargain does he hold up for you?
I look at Adam as another son because he is younger than both my son and my daughter. I am definitely old enough to be his mother if not his grandmother, but I can still appreciate that he is good looking and even sexy. I still can’t believe he is the overweight ginger haired young man on the video of his graduation. Yes, I defend him because of the unwarranted criticism he gets that he is too fat, too camp and just a karaoke singer! I’ve never seen a video of him calling people “darling” like Freddie used to do so why do diehard Freddie fans say Adam is “too gay?”
I don’t understand why every thread Adam fans start for the QAL shows ends up being pages and pages of attacks on Adam. He is still not being accepted after almost 7 years of performing in this collaboration.
An interview with Brian, Roger and Adam:
http://www.rtve.es/m/alacarta/videos/telediario/queen-celebra-40-anos-su-we-are-the-champions-dos-conciertos-espana/4621394/?media=tve
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
I look at Adam as another son because he is younger than both my son and my daughter. I am definitely old enough to be his mother if not his grandmother, but I can still appreciate that he is good looking and even sexy. I still can’t believe he is the overweight ginger haired young man on the video of his graduation. Yes, I defend him because of the unwarranted criticism he gets that he is too fat, too camp and just a karaoke singer! I’ve never seen a video of him calling people “darling” like Freddie used to do so why do diehard Freddie fans say Adam is “too gay?”
I don’t understand why every thread Adam fans start for the QAL shows ends up being pages and pages of attacks on Adam. He is still not being accepted after almost 7 years of performing in this collaboration.[/QUOTE]
To say a celebrity is like a son to you, and you can still appreciate him being sexy. That's quite out there, sweetcaroline.
Many times you had to feel like you had to defend AL, and defend him over the years by saying he is sexy, good looking etc, that is nutty as well. There wasn't much discussion here on QZ about how AL looked before you started to post again last August, but you still wanted a thread right away for you to say how good looking and gorgeous you think he is. Apparently, you did that here because of what was posted on QOL. That's not defense, it's something like a pre teen would do.
I'm afraid there are a few things I will never understand where you come from and what you come out with.. Why you feel the need to defend AL so much, the way you try to defend him and that you have done it for years now. It's mind boggling. Often times you became very upset over next to nothing.
Do you think every gay man should act like each other. Yes, Freddie said darling often, AL doesnt say it that I'm aware of. Not two people will ever say and act the same way. Once again though, you are comparing them. Two different men at different times. For Freddie is was a word he used often, I'm sure AL has his own words he likes to use often.
Not going to get into it that some people felt AL was/is too gay.
It's no big deal to me that some people still don't accept Adam performing Queen songs. To me, he hasn't replaced Freddie, and to me he isn't the new singer of Queen. There was only one Queen for me, that was and always will be Freddie, Brian, Roger and John.
People were called whiners by you very early on in this thread, and haters was also mentioned by snifflese. I guess that was for happystar and myself. You don't allow or even want another POV,
unless it agrees with yours sweetcarolinee. You don't want me to post in AL threads even, you made that clear a few weeks back. Do you think saying I'm like Trump is supposed to calm the waters? I know what you think of Trump and I by now. Thing is, you don't accept any responsibility for what you do. You still blame me for things that I have no idea about. That's a big part of the problem right there. Yes, I've been harsh, but I've not been the only one.
Enjoy the upcoming shows, sweetcaroline. I'm one of bummed there is no word of the guys rehearsing. Very little chance of being surprised set list wise, I figure. I hope I'm wrong.
Icy, just curious why you are so worried about rehearsal time? You always mention it and it is honestly something that wouldn't occur to me. I think everyone is in London so they may all be practicing but after 200 some shows, how much practice do they need? They play a pretty flawless show with only a minor glitsch here and there. Adam has said the music is internalized at this point so I doubt they need the amount of practice that was necessary in the beginning. No need to tire themselves out at this point as they have a busy summer and Sept. I imagine you are looking for a new song? But I doubt that woud take days of practice. I am sure they will practice until they are confident in their product, so I wouldn't worry about it. I have read that the Vegas shows will be shorter as they are not that long in the casinos and they are extremely strict about going over the time. Anybody know?
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
Icy, just curious why you are so worried about rehearsal time? You always mention it and it is honestly something that wouldn't occur to me. I think everyone is in London so they may all be practicing but after 200 some shows, how much practice do they need? They play a pretty flawless show with only a minor glitsch here and there. Adam has said the music is internalized at this point so I doubt they need the amount of practice that was necessary in the beginning. No need to tire themselves out at this point as they have a busy summer and Sept. I imagine you are looking for a new song? But I doubt that woud take days of practice. I am sure they will practice until they are confident in their product, so I wouldn't worry about it. I have read that the Vegas shows will be shorter as they are not that long in the casinos and they are extremely strict about going over the time. Anybody know?[/QUOTE]
I'd like the chance of some other songs being performed or returned to the set list. That's why ;-). I think rehearsing is important as well.
How much practice do they need? More than a day or two. I don't want to start anything up again, but if there was more rehearsing, do you think it would have been likely that Bohemian Rhapsody would have been messed up three times in a row? It still strikes me as odd, out of all the songs AL messed up, it was that one in particular. Maybe he was nervous, off night,or something, I don't know, because he has never explained why he messed BR up.
I do think it's unlikely a new song will be added, or any song returned. I figure it will be fortunate if DOOL is done a couple of times. There is so much good, even great music in the Queen back catalogue after all.
I would enjoy a new song or an old one like Now I"m here, I Was Born to Love You or Save Me, something that they haven't sung for a while. Rehearsing a previously sung song shouldn't be too time intensive and a new one shouldn't be that hard either. Maybe they are practicing and we just don't know it as not everything is known to the general public.
I am not sure that more practice would save a flub like BR. Maybe you are different, but once I make a mistake, like someone's name, I am more likely than not, to do it again. My son had a teacher, Mrs. Small and I often called her Mrs. Little! It was really hard to get it right and normally such things are not a problem for me.
Singers and musicians make mistakes and most folks aren't too riled up about it. I don't see why Adam would ever have to explain what happened. It isn't our business and he may not even really know. In the big scheme that was a tiny, tiny flaw when you consider all the hundreds of hours of performing and singing. Nobody is perfect at the end of the day. If Freddie could mess up his own music, I am sure Adam might occasionally also mess up someone else's songs. I know he has flubbed a few things on his songs occasionally. No biggie!! I doubt most people even notice!
