[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
TSMGO, Kiev, June 30, 2012:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=weJ2q5HgxXs
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Yep, there you go with the links again of AL singing it. And you can't be bothered about the history of Queen songs before AL sings them. When he does sing it, that's where and your only focus is.
What did you learn about TSMGO? Do you at least understand why it was written?
Yes, but it is wrong for you or anyone to say that song should never be played or performed because it was written for Freddie when he was so ill. As I said before, it is a tribute to him that the show and the powerful Queen music must go on!
Some day when the remaining guys are no longer able to perform, the critics will be weeping and gnashing their teeth with regret especially the idiots who refuse to go because there is no Freddie!
I’m done posting until June 7.
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
I'm torn. Half of me can't believe Brian would come up with something like that, another half me believes he could...most of know he loves Adam. Even so, the Coronet is tacky, even more so if Brian looked at it as a prince to Freddie's king. Oh hell no. I'd rather the coronet be as some gimmick or antic even.
I've watched and read so many videos, interviews, articles, it's hard to keep track. I don't recall Brian stating that, I hope he isn't as thoughtless as that.[/QUOTE]
I've seen a lot of inteviews as well, don't always remember where I see/hear stuff. It's been said a few times on YouTube/Facebook, at least the bit about Brian putting it on him, not sure where I heard the other bit, unless it was someone's interpretation of it. Either way, it's done in fun, Adam loves playing dress up as he puts it and no one ever takes any of that stuff seriously, it's just him being able to indulge his love for theatrics and he sees Queen as a theatrical band so he considers it gives him permission to be over the top and ridiculous, he laughs at himself when he says it, he's even said "I'm kind of ridiculous, I know that".
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Usually I'd go look for it, but I don't have time to trawl through past interviews, articles, and videos right now.
If AL had a cape and Coronet for his own solo shows, I'd still think it was tacky as heck, but IMO when done with Brian and Roger, I think it's tacky and distasteful. I do know many Glamberts have stated it's a passing of the torch type thing and that's how it's seen by some in that fan base, so of course they would love it. For me, it's impossible to pass the torch, especially from Freddie to AL. I will never think AL has free reign to do what he wants during these shows, because a fact, these shows aren't his.
The Coronet came as such a shock to me honestly. I wasn't happy from the first time I saw it. A cape was added during the last shows, I don't know what gives. It's one of the most distasteful Q+AL things I've seen. To think there is that, and even less of Freddie and John, you can tell some things will never sit well with me. These are the main ones.
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
I’m done posting until June 7.
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I will believe it when I see it. ;-)
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
Well, I would hope AL wanted Freddie to be and heard. I'm right with AL there. But to take out the ending of Bohemian Rhapsody, and to have AL sing much of it as possible, I don't think that is the right choice. Bohemian Rhapsody isn't only a classic song for Queen it's a groundbreaking rock song. It does come across as tacky ALmis the one to sing it as much as possible...what would it hurt to keep Freddie's vocals?
A big hole is left without having as much of Freddie and John in these shows. They had so much to do with Queen history after all. Or put it this way, AL wouldn't be where he is without Queen.
It would not hurt anyone to show more of Freddie and John during these shows. It's like AL is wanted to be fit anywhere possible. Who had the idea for that? [/QUOTE]
I don't know who's idea the Bo Rhap thing was, I've never seen any interviews where it was mentioned, it just disappeared after the three lyric flubs last year. Maybe he just thought he'd be less likely to mess up if he sang the whole thing, but that's just me wondering, he's never mentioned it to my knowledge. I personally found the balance with Freddie in the show just right at the show I went to.
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Yes, but it is wrong for you or anyone to say that song should never be played or performed because it was written for Freddie when he was so ill. As I said before, it is a tribute to him that the show and the powerful Queen music must go on!
Some day when the remaining guys are no longer able to perform, the critics will be weeping and gnashing their teeth with regret especially the idiots who refuse to go because there is no Freddie![/QUOTE]
How you twist things. I gave my explanations in this thread. You think my POV is wrong.
I still don't think you understand the meaning behind the song, act I'd go as far as to say you don't care about the song, just suits your obvious Q+AL agenda.
You really shouldn't go there about how you feel that people will be weeping and gnashing their teeth with regret. I am truly sorry I've not seen Freddie with Queen live, Bowie, Led Zeppelin, and so many more. I'm unlikely to ever see Elton John live. That's a regret. If I miss seeing Q+AL live, no biggie, I can live with it. Q+AL is not Queen to me after all. If I attended a show last year, and my mother ended up dying during the time I was away that would have been devastating. Why do you think I had to turn your offer erm bribe down that you gave on QOL...my mother is very ill for nearly a year and I don't want to leave her because she is that ill. I will say that here cause I don't see you posting on QOL in the last couple of days.
I think when Q+AL is over, it will be you gnashing your teeth crying, screaming, because without Brian and Roger, AL is very unlikely to ever draw in the crowds, roll in the money the way he is doing with Q+AL.
AL is taking the easy way out, IMO in rolling in the money, by usually singing Queen songs and letting his solo musc be a second piroity. Deep down, I think he knows his own solo career can never achieve what Q+AL has, or many other artists have achieved. It some of his fans who should realise that too.
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
Well, I would hope AL wanted Freddie to be and heard. I'm right with AL there. But to take out the ending of Bohemian Rhapsody, and to have AL sing much of it as possible, I don't think that is the right choice. Bohemian Rhapsody isn't only a classic song for Queen it's a groundbreaking rock song. It does come across as tacky ALmis the one to sing it as much as possible...what would it hurt to keep Freddie's vocals?
A big hole is left without having as much of Freddie and John in these shows. They had so much to do with Queen history after all. Or put it this way, AL wouldn't be where he is without Queen.
It would not hurt anyone to show more of Freddie and John during these shows. It's like AL is wanted to be fit anywhere possible. Who had the idea for that? [/QUOTE]
I don't know who's idea the Bo Rhap thing was, I've never seen any interviews where it was mentioned, it just disappeared after the three lyric flubs last year. Maybe he just thought he'd be less likely to mess up if he sang the whole thing, but that's just me wondering, he's never mentioned it to my knowledge. I personally found the balance with Freddie in the show just right at the show I went to.[/QUOTE]
It's strange.
If I can be honest, I didn't like how Freddie's and AL's vocals were at the end of Bohemian Rhapsody. To cut out Freddie altogether...it's baffling. I'd rather have Freddie and AL sing it 'together' than to have Freddie's vocals removed.
It is such a shame that being a true Queen fan keeps you from enjoying what Queen is now, QAL. I am glad I don't know nearly enough to ruin QAL's shows for me. I think these are just excuses since you don't like Adam. You seem to be on board with Paul Rogers and you generally like anyone else who sings a Queen song, just not Adam. I have noticed that over the last 9 years, It is a definite pattern. People at the concert don't need holograms of Freddie. Everyone reveres him and knows who wrote a good deal of the music. Too much of Freddie would take away from that one moment where he appears on the screen. Too much would be overkill. As far as John, he made the decision not to take part and is still raking in the money. He doesn't need to be showcased for his non-participation. Apparently Brian and Roger agree.
Capes and crowns ar symbols of Queen and QAL is just a different incarnation of the original. Adam would never incorporate it into his show as it means nothing in respect to his music. It is a symbol of Queen, however, and there are tons of folks who now consider Adam the new frontman of Queen. Just because you don't Icy, doesn't mean that lots of people think otherwise. Many in the mediahave published that very statement and I have found few commentsfrom fans that dispute it. Your POV is not the only one in the world! I have read the same story about the coronet that Rockchic has. If Brian feels comfortable passing the coronet on, that is all that needs to be said. We all now how you feel, as it has been mentioned many, many times. Maybe you could avoid mentioning it again! We are all aware of your POV!!!
The bottom line is that if Adam loves singing Queen and they are all comfortable with it, why is it the easy way out? Fronting the band and singing a difficult catalog for long tours is something that very few singers in the world could do to the level that Adam does. If Brian and Roger are happy and Adam is happy and the majjority of the fans are happy, that is all there is to this story. A few naysayers online don't change reality and the reality is that QAL has been very successful and the vast majority of folks are quite happy when they see the show. Whether Adam's career later on ever reaches these heights is a totally different issue and nothing for Adam to worry about now as he is really enjoying his life it seems. We should all be so happy!!
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
It is such a shame that being a true Queen fan keeps you from enjoying what Queen is now, QAL. I am glad I don't know nearly enough to ruin QAL's shows for me. I think these are just excuses since you don't like Adam. You seem to be on board with Paul Rogers and you generally like anyone else who sings a Queen song, just not Adam. I have noticed that over the last 9 years, It is a definite pattern. People at the concert don't need holograms of Freddie. Everyone reveres him and knows who wrote a good deal of the music. Too much of Freddie would take away from that one moment where he appears on the screen. Too much would be overkill. As far as John, he made the decision not to take part and is still raking in the money. He doesn't need to be showcased for his non-participation. Apparently Brian and Roger agree.
Capes and crowns ar symbols of Queen and QAL is just a different incarnation of the original. Adam would never incorporate it into his show as it means nothing in respect to his music. It is a symbol of Queen, however, and there are tons of folks who now consider Adam the new frontman of Queen. Just because you don't Icy, doesn't mean that lots of people think otherwise. Many in the mediahave published that very statement and I have found few commentsfrom fans that dispute it. Your POV is not the only one in the world! I have read the same story about the coronet that Rockchic has. If Brian feels comfortable passing the coronet on, that is all that needs to be said. We all now how you feel, as it has been mentioned many, many times. Maybe you could avoid mentioning it again! We are all aware of your POV!!!
The bottom line is that if Adam loves singing Queen and they are all comfortable with it, why is it the easy way out? Fronting the band and singing a difficult catalog for long tours is something that very few singers in the world could do to the level that Adam does. If Brian and Roger are happy and Adam is happy and the majjority of the fans are happy, that is all there is to this story. A few naysayers online don't change reality and the reality is that QAL has been very successful and the vast majority of folks are quite happy when they see the show. Whether Adam's career later on ever reaches these heights is a totally different issue and nothing for Adam to worry about now as he is really enjoying his life it seems. We should all be so happy!![/QUOTE]
Well for one thing, I don't look at Q+AL as Queen. I can and I have said the same about Q+PR that it wasn't Queen. All IMO.
Not sure where you getting that I don't like AL? I like him, but I don't like everything to do with him, and I guess that's the major difference between you and me.. I don't like everything my favorites have done, let's see Freddie singing Put Out The Fire, that the worst vocal I've heard him do, and shitty lyrics from Brian, Queen at their worst frankly. All IMO.
Again, though you are bitter because I'd Iike to see more of Freddie? I don't know why that bothers you so much, unless you are worried that Freddie could get more cheers and it takes away from AL's time onstage? Freddie and John should be shown more than how little was during the last tour especially. Sorry, not sorry, I'm a Queen fan first. By the way, I don't mean holograms, DOOL was a very nice way to pay tribute to the old days. Yes, I think there was no better way to do pay tribute to Freddie and John in recent years, going as far back as the Q+PR days. It would be impossible to have Freddie ( and John ) shown too much in these shows, IMO. Keep in mind Adam would not be where he is without all four members of Queen.
Tons of folks consider AL the new front man of Queen, you say. Sorry, not sorry, I will never think of him like that. Even AL says he's a guest singing the songs and he has said he isn't replacing Freddie. I don't know how you can deny or misinterpret what AL has said himself. Oh because glowing articles and many Glamberts think of AL as the new frontman for Queen, so I'm just supposed to believe that crap? Not so fast. Not even if Q+AL recorded together, I wouldn't think of AL as the new frontman. Nor would I think of it as Queen. You clearly think AL is the new singer in the new Queen. I vehemently disagree with you on that. Another difference between you and me.
I've read many articles, interviews and videos of Q+AL in the last few years. I don't recall Brian ever saying he was passing the cornoet to AL. The cornet and cape is a poor piss take is how I look at it, just very tacky it ever happened in the first place. I was hoping it would have been dropped during the last tour, it obviously was not, and a cape added. I don't like it as you can tell ;-).
You make it seem like I am the only one who has repeated a POV here...and I'm not the only one, and it sure isn't against any rules of both Queen boards. You sure repeat yourself as well, as does sweetcaroline but that's ok you are both Glamberts, and m not, another difference between you and I.. I was actually having a good conversation with rockchic today, I hope that doesn't bother you, if it does, not my problem.
Yes, no doubt AL loves singing the Queen songs...while rolling in the money of other people's music. I still think it's gonna be an uphill climb for him with his solo music and career. I think it's very unlikely he can top Q+AL. Sure in the meantime AL with Brian and Roger things are good. That won't last forever, and I'll be honest, it's lasted longer than I thought it would. There's a drawback though, and his solo career is on the back burner, and that's because of his choice/s in what he decided to put first. His piroity has been Q+AL since it began. I've already read how some Glamberts hope a new single is released during this upcoming tour or the Vegas run to hope the Q+AL gives him a boost sales and media wise. I doubt that will be significant, it didn't happen last time with Trespassing or The Original High, or more recently TwoFux.
If things are coming up roses in what you want for AL, that's one thing, and I guess good for you? I think you are very misguided however. Don't come here to clap back at me that you think Q+AL is Queen, and AL is the new frontman for Queen, that's just laughable, and nuts, but not surprising that you feel that way. No surprise that I disagree with you, or anyone who would state that on a Queen board no less.
I’m happy! And I’m really happy because my Cavaliers won the NBA Eastern Division Championdhip for the 4th time in a row last night!
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
I’m happy! And I’m really happy because my Cavaliers won the NBA Eastern Division Championdhip for the 4th time in a row last night![/QUOTE]
Thought you were done until June 7th? Guess not ;-)
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
I’m done posting until June 7.
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Good thing I didn't believe you ;-).
happystar, which QAL show did you see?
[QUOTE] [b]happystar wrote:[/b]
Well i will honestly say i do not like Adam Lambert. He is not a star in my eyes and never will be.
He is just a leach getting paid to sing Queen songs in his plain west end style of singing, hardly a rock n roller is he![/QUOTE]
You said that like it was the first time commenting on him. You aren't on YouTube are you, the way you word things reminds me of someone I was chatting with?
