Ok, Icy, I am not sure I really appreciate the snifflese defending business. You talk about her pulling in others to defend her. Just a day or two ago you mentioned civil chats with Rockchic and me and now you mention Rockchic again. That is exactly what you are always trying to do to bolster your views. Pot shouldn't be calling the kettle black! Caroline can bring over links and remarks about the concert. Yesterday you had a nasty remark when she posted the most darling picture of Brian. This is a thread for fans. You are not one, so go somewhere else, if it bugs you that much. Caroline provides a service for some people who may not know where to look for info. That is whatAngelR, has been doing on QOL and another rocker has been linking things. No one, including you, is complaining over there. You just complain here because it is Caroline. You absolutely have it in for her and I don't understand why. No wonder she wants you to go away and leave her alone. Remember scroll can be your friend so that we don't have to read all your bitching.
You don't like the new songs except for Play the Game, no problem. But to say Adam can't sing anything from Innuendo is ridiculous. Good thing the Queen MEMBERS make the decisions. Ultimately, it is up to them. Lucy fit right in and took so little time away from the 135 minute show. I think it was a nice show of respect and I appreciate that Brian and Roger do that for Adam. It is selfish to want every Queen song. How come Rodgers could sing a bunch of his stuff and it wasn't a problem. Can you explain that? He sang a lot more than one song.
PS, The couch is not back! Not sure where you saw that, but he was propped right atop Frank's head, just like last time!! He had on a cute little checkered outfit!!
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
Ok, Icy, I am not sure I really appreciate the snifflese defending business. You talk about her pulling in others to defend her. Just a day or two ago you mentioned civil chats with Rockchic and me and now you mention Rockchic again. That is exactly what you are always trying to do to bolster your views. Pot shouldn't be calling the kettle black! Caroline can bring over links and remarks about the concert. Yesterday you had a nasty remark when she posted the most darling picture of Brian. This is a thread for fans. You are not one, so go somewhere else, if it bugs you that much. Caroline provides a service for some people who may not know where to look for info. That is whatAngelR, has been doing on QOL and another rocker has been linking things. No one, including you, is complaining over there. You just complain here because it is Caroline. You absolutely have it in for her and I don't understand why. No wonder she wants you to go away and leave her alone. Remember scroll can be your friend so that we don't have to read all your bitching.
You don't like the new songs except for Play the Game, no problem. But to say Adam can't sing anything from Innuendo is ridiculous. Good thing the Queen MEMBERS make the decisions. Ultimately, it is up to them. Lucy fit right in and took so little time away from the 135 minute show. I think it was a nice show of respect and I appreciate that Brian and Roger do that for Adam. It is selfish to want every Queen song. How come Rodgers could sing a bunch of his stuff and it wasn't a problem. Can you explain that? He sang a lot more than one song. [/QUOTE]
Fact is, you came here a few months back, in your very first post you stated I should been banned instead of sweetcaroline. You defended her and bitched me out from the get go. Fact.
Yep, I mentioned Rockchic. Snce sweetcaroline thinks she can speak for everyone else, even though Rockchic and I had some good discussions here. Maybe rockchic feels differently, but that's for her to say. Sweetcaroline has taken it on herself to post no one cares what I think and for me to go away. Is she speaking for the whole of QZ now?
Sweetcaroline is providing a service you say? Does she get paid for it, or does she want to get paid for it? Is comparing me to Trump a part of her service? Is speaking for others a part of it? Does she want that Glambert medal? She said she was the only Glambert that stuck it out for so long. Oddly enough, she isn't the only one left on QOL the way she thought, because very obvious some are still there.
This early on, I like PTG. I don't think TIU was good as an opener. I don't want AL to sing any songs from the last the Queen albums, especially from Inneundo. I don't think you are aware or don't care about the legacy and courage of those last three Queen albums. It gives me an odd feeling to hear AL sing TSMGO, and another thing I don't think he really needs to sing that song after all this time. Nope, I don't think it's selfish to want to hear more Queen music. You call me selfish after you called Nate from Fun 'that horrible person' because he had the chance and he actually sang a Queen song with Brian and Roger. No that wasn't selfish, that was pure spite on your part. So don't come to me saying I'm selfish for wanting to hear Queen music, when you are not even a Queen fan. That pot meeting kettle thing after all ;-).
Out of the AL solo songs performed n Q+AL shows, TwoFux is my least favorite. It just might be my least favorite AL song. I still stand by even with Brian and Roger performing it, didn't make it better. Early days of the tour, maybe I will like things as time goes on. Only the music can change my mind about it.
Oh you are another one who wants me to "go". Thankfully, it's not up to you if I stay or go. I know very well you still want me banned. You won't be happy, and sweetcaroline won't be happy if a ban happens. Obviously, you both want discussions you don't like shut down. What can't you go to AL boards? Where you can talk about how AL looks even before the music itself?
I'm a Queen, Brian and Roger and to a lesser degree an AL fan. That's actually why I tuned in...and still tune into Q+AL shows, but it's not Queen for me. I make no apologies for that.
Right Icy, just bring up ALL THE CRAP you have already stated a million and one times. You are like a dog with a bone and you just never let go. I can't imagine trying to deal with you in real life!!
Can you let the past just go and talk about current things. I would hate to count how many times the ban has come up and how many times Nate has been mentioned. It is enough already. Think of something NEW to say.
You didn't answer why Adam can't have 3-4 minutes for a song of his, but Rodgers could sing several. You never answer new questions, you just throw old crap you have said a million times at peope and then you wait to see what sticks. It is beyond ridiculous to ask if Caroline gets paid. Go on QOL and ask the people who provided links for this new leg of the show and the Lisbon info. Why do you only throw crap at Caroline? I would love to know that? I never mentioned Two Fux and it actually is not my favorite song. You keep responding to things that make no sense and you throw everything at somebody! WHY?? There is no purpose to that kind of a post.
Right Icy, just bring up ALL THE CRAP you have already stated a million and one times. You are like a dog with a bone and you just never let go. I can't imagine trying to deal with you in real life!!
Can you let the past just go and talk about current things. I would hate to count how many times the ban has come up and how many times Nate has been mentioned. It is enough already. Think of something NEW to say.
You didn't answer why Adam can't have 3-4 minutes for a song of his, but Rodgers could sing several. You never answer new questions, you just throw old crap you have said a million times at peope and then you wait to see what sticks. It is beyond ridiculous to ask if Caroline gets paid. Go on QOL and ask the people who provided links for this new leg of the show and the Lisbon info. Why do you only throw crap at Caroline? I would love to know that? I never mentioned Two Fux and it actually is not my favorite song. You keep responding to things that make no sense and you throw everything at somebody! WHY?? There is no purpose to that kind of a post.
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
Right Icy, just bring up ALL THE CRAP you have already stated a million and one times. You are like a dog with a bone and you just never let go. I can't imagine trying to deal with you in real life!!
Can you let the past just go and talk about current things. I would hate to count how many times the ban has come up and how many times Nate has been mentioned. It is enough already. Think of something NEW to say.
You didn't answer why Adam can't have 3-4 minutes for a song of his, but Rodgers could sing several. You never answer new questions, you just throw old crap you have said a million times at peope and then you wait to see what sticks. It is beyond ridiculous to ask if Caroline gets paid. Go on QOL and ask the people who provided links for this new leg of the show and the Lisbon info. Why do you only throw crap at Caroline? I would love to know that? I never mentioned Two Fux and it actually is not my favorite song. You keep responding to things that make no sense and you throw everything at somebody! WHY?? There is no purpose to that kind of a post. [/QUOTE]
You are a good one *sarcasm* to say I never let anything go. You don't either.
Why do you and sweetcaroline throw crap at me? Because you can here, that's why. You both have had issues with me for years now.
What was your point coming here to screech about I should have been banned, bitching me out and defending sweetcaroline maybe I should ask you if she pays you to defend her LMAO. That's your purpose of being here, you have admitted to that not long ago. Sweetcaroline is here to defend, promote and spam about AL in hoping have people to become AL fans. Not a thing has changed since last August and a couple of years before that when she ran here after her bans from QOL to point fingers at me and to do her usual AL crap.
The usual excuses she makes about AL not being popular because of homophobia. Her instigatng. Her bitterness to other artists who are not AL because simply because many other artists are more popular than AL. Her envy and her all out hate, comparing me to Trump, that I especially must go to a Q+AL then and only then can my views hold weight for her. Maybe not even then. Her claims that I'm stalking her. Her throwing around a real fan wouldn't do this, or do that. That's why I 'throw crap' at sweetcaroline. Not that you will have anything to say about what she did and does, and you are more than ok with what she does, because both Glamberts. I'm no Glambert and I'm okay with that. I think you should ask her why she throws crap at me. You don't have the guts to ask her about that and she does not have the guts to answer.
I have never seen anyone else in over 11 years treat QOL the way sweetcaroline has. All the while not bothering much at all to discuss Freddie or Queen with Freddie unless it's to compare it with AL. Her using QOL as her own personal Glambert playground where she promoted and defended AL at the drop of a hat almost anywhere she could, squeezed him in topics wherever she could and becoming upset over next to nothing, and throw hissy fits. The exact same things she does here. I'm pretty sure she would be doing the same right now on QOL if she could. One of her last posts over there was that she felt QOL members still didn't accept AL because AL is gay. Pretty fucked up for her to say that on a Queen board where it's known and accepted about Freddie's sexuality, but to imply Queen fans do not accept AL because he is gay... seriously what the actual fuck? You said yourself sweetcaroline defends AL here by saying how sexy, good looking etc she thinks AL is because of what was said on QOL. That's not defense, that's bat shit crazy.
The poster that you defend says some pretty mind blowing things at times. Plenty of fucked up things to be blunt. You see nothing wrong with what she does.. You aren't helping her by defending and pandering to her. If anyone else has done or will do what sweetcaroline/CNB has done, my reaction would be the same... I would not care who it was...or will be. But only sweetcaroline/CNB has done it to such a degree...and continues to do it.
Other Glamberts have not done anything like sweetcaroline/CNB has. So someone else has a chance to start threads etc than what CNB did on QOL. Why should I ask other posters about that when it's not to the same degree? Are you able to tell the difference?
Ah, you are another one who tears down other artists to try to big up AL. If you can't tell why I don't mind why I didn't mind PR songs were played during the Q+PR tours...it was classic rock artists playing classic rock songs that are legendary. I found it interesting how PR sang Queen songs and Brian and Roger play PR songs. It actually worked good, IMO. AL solo songs more than often than not stuck out like a sore thumb, and are very out of place, IMO. TwoFux the worst out of them. GT...ok, I admit I liked it, and WYWFM...not so much, and that was too bad really because that probably is my favorite AL song. Early days for Lucy, my mind actually isn't completely made up on that yet. But I do stand by my thoughts on the first show.
". How come Rodgers could sing a bunch of his stuff and it wasn't a problem. Can you explain that? He sang a lot more than one song. "
Well I can explain that for you dumbo: BEcause the PR stuff were CLASSICS, timeless songs everyone knows, written and performed by legends in their own right. SOngs People love and appreciate and KNOW and WANT TO HEAR. Nowadays they play Lamefarts disgraceful pop fluff nobody knows over here (and in the US as well). His solo career is over, he might get dropped from his record company (if he hasnt already).
Nobody wants to hear songs like "Lucy" or the abomination "Two FUx" - absolute flops nobody wants to hear when he is going to a rock show.
The original concept of Q+PR was to play 50/50 of PR material and Queen material, but it was Paul's decision to cut that back because Queen had not been on the road for so long. As Brian said in a newspaper piece published on the morning of the Brixton gig, playing Paul's material was an integral part of them wanting to go out on the road with him.
Lucy for me was a ten times better choice than Two Fux, but there were still looks of disinterest from those around me in Lisbon and in general in the arena when it was played (but they didn't all flock to the toilets/bar like people last year during Two Fux!!!)
[QUOTE] [b]Fordy1974 wrote:[/b]
The original concept of Q+PR was to play 50/50 of PR material and Queen material, but it was Paul's decision to cut that back because Queen had not been on the road for so long. As Brian said in a newspaper piece published on the morning of the Brixton gig, playing Paul's material was an integral part of them wanting to go out on the road with him.
Lucy for me was a ten times better choice than Two Fux, but there were still looks of disinterest from those around me in Lisbon and in general in the arena when it was played (but they didn't all flock to the toilets/bar like people last year during Two Fux!!!)[/QUOTE]
The problem is most people would have heard Paul's stuff, but unless a fan of Adam would likely not know any of his music. I thought Lucy would be a good choice since Brian played on the recording so there's a chance some Queen fans might know of it. They've offered to include more of Adam's songs and he always say's no, I suspect he knows it wouldn't work.
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
Right Icy, just bring up ALL THE CRAP you have already stated a million and one times. You are like a dog with a bone and you just never let go. I can't imagine trying to deal with you in real life!!
Can you let the past just go and talk about current things. I would hate to count how many times the ban has come up and how many times Nate has been mentioned. It is enough already. Think of something NEW to say.
You didn't answer why Adam can't have 3-4 minutes for a song of his, but Rodgers could sing several. You never answer new questions, you just throw old crap you have said a million times at peope and then you wait to see what sticks. It is beyond ridiculous to ask if Caroline gets paid. Go on QOL and ask the people who provided links for this new leg of the show and the Lisbon info. Why do you only throw crap at Caroline? I would love to know that? I never mentioned Two Fux and it actually is not my favorite song. You keep responding to things that make no sense and you throw everything at somebody! WHY?? There is no purpose to that kind of a post. [/QUOTE]
I think one song's fine and Lucy was probably a good choice, I've been wondering from the beginning why they didn't include that one, more chance a Queen fan might know of it than his other songs. I wouldn't like them to include more because tbh I don't think it would work, people wouldn't have heard his stuff, only his own fans, so the energy and flow of the show would drop, people would end up going to the toilet or the bar, no singing along because they wouldn't know the songs, it would just be odd IMO. I never saw the Q+PR collab live but I imagine a lot of Queen fans would know Paul's stuff, I would have been able to sing along to most of his songs even though I don't have any of his albums, they're just well known songs probably because they're from the same era. Even now when I go to see local bands/singers in pubs/clubs lots do Free/Bad Company covers.
[QUOTE] [b]Fordy1974 wrote:[/b]
The original concept of Q+PR was to play 50/50 of PR material and Queen material, but it was Paul's decision to cut that back because Queen had not been on the road for so long. As Brian said in a newspaper piece published on the morning of the Brixton gig, playing Paul's material was an integral part of them wanting to go out on the road with him.
Lucy for me was a ten times better choice than Two Fux, but there were still looks of disinterest from those around me in Lisbon and in general in the arena when it was played (but they didn't all flock to the toilets/bar like people last year during Two Fux!!!)[/QUOTE]
I actually did not know that about Q+PR before. I would not have minded it being 50/50 in retrospect. Both legendary, classic rock artists, hey why not.
Did people really leave for the toilet during TwoFux? That's hysterical. Thank ye God's that there is only one AL solo song. Lucy was always the most obvious choice to play, but even with Brian playing on the studio version, I'm not sure how well Lucy is known in Europe.
No one knows Lamebird in Europe. His albums all flopped. In The US he had some popularity because of AI. But that is long gone. His solo career is over - and so is his musical career once QAL is over (which is hopefully soon). He will just be a sad footnote in the big Queen book. (I hated him being included in the Queen 3D book
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
No one knows Lamebird in Europe. His albums all flopped. In The US he had some popularity because of AI. But that is long gone. His solo career is over - and so is his musical career once QAL is over (which is hopefully soon). He will just be a sad footnote in the big Queen book. (I hated him being included in the Queen 3D book[/QUOTE]
See you don't check facts, Adam is actually well known in Europe, he's actually popular there, even Germany, check his solo shows over there. He's more popular in various countries than the US, but even he has said when he does his solo shows, his fans know the hits but not always the rest of his music from his albums. Seems a bit odd to me but maybe that's a factor of streaming rather than having a physical album you take home and play, showing my age now. He said one of the things he loves most about playing with Queen is that the audience know the words to all the songs and sing along to everything, so basically even at a solo show they might not know Lucy that well.
always defending your idol. If not even his greatest fans (if there are one) know his music that says a lot doesnt it? Point proven-thank you. Ahhh I see - it is due to streaming lol
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
always defending your idol. If not even his greatest fans (if there are one) know his music that says a lot doesnt it? Point proven-thank you. Ahhh I see - it is due to streaming lol[/QUOTE]
Logic should tell you that when you had to go to a store and buy an album based off hearing a single on the radio, you would play it a lot and over time you would know the words. Now with streaming the average time someone gives a listen to a new song is 7 seconds!! So a song that doesn't instantly grab you likely doesn't get played much. There are songs like Ghost Town that more people would know and they've done that one in the past, don't know why they decided on Lucy, except Brian having played on it, but time will tell if it works. I'm sure they'll soon drop it if it doesn't, they judge the audience reaction and adjust the set accordingly.
And seriously, you're questioning if he has fans?
