Bryan Adams' "(Everything I do) I do for you" appeared in the credits of the Robin Hood movie and was an enormous success when released as a single from the movie soundtrack.
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But Bryan Adams was already hugely successful by the time Robin Hood came out, TFM was released in 2009 straight after Adam came off Idol. Also power ballads weren't particularly popular by that point, might have been a different story back in the 90's.
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I haven't checked the charts since the 1990s so I wouldn't know :)
There always seems to be a reason for Lambert's relative lack of success. Bad timing, poor choices, homophobia, suit never came back from the cleaners, old friend came in from out of town, locusts... In truth, he's moderately successful at best -- at least in those areas that his fans seem to obsess about -- and until he finds a genre that suits him and finds a way to stand out from hordes of other west end style crooners, power ballad divas and dance/ pop artists then he probably won't be as successful as
(whispers quietly in case SC has a stoke) Adele and Sam Smith ;)
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
Bryan Adams' "(Everything I do) I do for you" appeared in the credits of the Robin Hood movie and was an enormous success when released as a single from the movie soundtrack.
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But Bryan Adams was already hugely successful by the time Robin Hood came out, TFM was released in 2009 straight after Adam came off Idol. Also power ballads weren't particularly popular by that point, might have been a different story back in the 90's.
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I haven't checked the charts since the 1990s so I wouldn't know :)
There always seems to be a reason for Lambert's relative lack of success. Bad timing, poor choices, homophobia, suit never came back from the cleaners, old friend came in from out of town, locusts... In truth, he's moderately successful at best -- at least in those areas that his fans seem to obsess about -- and until he finds a genre that suits him and finds a way to stand out from hordes of other west end style crooners, power ballad divas and dance/ pop artists then he probably won't be as successful as
(whispers quietly in case SC has a stoke) Adele and Sam Smith ;)
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IMO there's lots of reasons some people are successful and others aren't and it very rarely has anything to do with talent. End of the day Adam is successful in various ways, just not in the charts, but then there's loads of indie artists who are great and don't have much chart success. He's earning good money, touring the world, getting to do other things besides music and seems happy so I'm sure he's fine with that, anything else is just a bonus.
Holly2003 · Member since
But we're talking about chart success here, not how happy he is, money etc. So what does he need to do to change that? Does he care? His fans seem to. I don't think it's that important.
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
But we're talking about chart success here, not how happy he is, money etc. So what does he need to do to change that? Does he care? His fans seem to. I don't think it's that important.[/QUOTE]
He used to or at least he had to in order to please the label but from what he says recently he's more concerned with doing music that feels authentic and what he want's to do rather than second guessing what will be a hit. For me that's the way go and maybe he's in a position financially where he can take more risks and just go for it. He tried using people like Max Martin (the hitmaker) and it didn't work, so I hope he sticks to what he believes in.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
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[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Time For Miracles never “failed” because it was never given a chance. The video was never broadcast on TV and the recording never played on the radio. The only place it was heard was over the credits at the end of the 2012 movie and most moviegoers were exiting the theater after sitting through all of the disasters in that film.
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I saw TFM on MuchMusic and MuchMoreMusic a few times. To say it wasn't seen...not exactly true.
Maybe song the should have been in the movie, instead of the credits. Whoever placed it in the credits...not a good choice.[/QUOTE]
Bryan Adams' "(Everything I do) I do for you" played over the credits of the Robin Hood movie and was an enormous success when released as a single from the movie soundtrack.
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That was when power ballads were a big deal. Extreme also had a big hit that year with More Than Words. Power ballads aren't what they used to be in many ways. The two singers I think that do it these days is Sam Smith and Adele, and they have been pretty successful with it.
I'd love it if AL could write and sing a power ballad, I don't mean him singing Queen songs.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
Bryan Adams' "(Everything I do) I do for you" appeared in the credits of the Robin Hood movie and was an enormous success when released as a single from the movie soundtrack.
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But Bryan Adams was already hugely successful by the time Robin Hood came out, TFM was released in 2009 straight after Adam came off Idol. Also power ballads weren't particularly popular by that point, might have been a different story back in the 90's.
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Power ballads were huge in the 1990s. A good chunk of my mix tapes were filled with it. Good times. ;-).
SweetCaroline · Member since
Say what you will but whenever Adele or Sam came on my car radio (only time I listen to the radio), I had to switch the station because I couldn’t stand their mounful whining! I do not consider them more talented or more successful than Adam!
He is versatile and doesn’t want to be stuck in one boring genre! That’s why he fits so well with Queen music.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Say what you will but whenever Adele or Sam came on my car radio (only time I listen to the radio), I had to switch the station because I couldn’t stand their mounful whining! I do not consider them more talented or more successful than Adam!
He is versatile and doesn’t want to be stuck in one boring genre! That’s why he fits so well with Queen music.[/QUOTE]
Sure, and if someone said about switching the station when AL came on, you would be upset about that.
Mournful whining? How did you jump to that conclusion since you never listened to a full album by Adele and Sam? Even a song on the radio you switch the channel. Adele and Sam are not always mournful and whiny.
Who are you trying to kid that you don't consider them more successful than AL? Because you have bitched about how much music they sold, their award nominations and wins. You are green with envy because they are more popular than AL. I actually think Sam and Adele are more talented than AL, hey at least they aren't riding on coattails. IMO, AL will never prove how talented he is by singing other people's music. I doubt AL could write a rockabilly song like CLTCL, or something as dramatic as Bohemian Rhapsody. He can hit the high notes, sure, but that's not ever to do with music. It takes a lot more than hitting high notes to make an impact, a legend what have you.
If AL doesn't want to be stuck in one genre, why doesn't he try to go n a new direction and head on different path than what his solo music has been this far? He says it will be different, but I will believe that when I hear it. He said it will be blusier late last year, but he changed his mind since then. Now it will be funk, 80s sound, Queen influenced...so he says, but that could change. Time will tell.
Oh yeah, you gotta promote and praise AL once again. You can't resist doing it. The fact AL sings Queen songs and other covers does not mean he can sing any genre. He should branch out more with his own music to see what he can do there. Relying on Queen songs and other covers doesn't make him the best singer out there. Hitting the notes doesn't make one an automatically great singer.
SweetCaroline · Member since
All 3 of his albums have been versatile—rock, pop, funk and blues and not boring.
It’s a conundrum because he sounds better unrecorded and live and those other yokels have to be autotuned to sound good!
Icy, stop hijacking this thread that is supposed to be for the QAL tour in Europe and the UK, not for bitching about Adam.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
All 3 of his albums have been versatile—rock, pop, funk and blues and not boring.
It’s a conundrum because he sounds better unrecorded and live and those other yokels have to be autotuned to sound good!
Icy, stop hijacking this thread that is supposed to be for the QAL tour in Europe and the UK, not for bitching about Adam.
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How am I bitching about AL in my recent posts. Of course, you the stepford and wannabe mother hen to AL that you are, you would would think I'm bitching, I suppose.
Why don't you stop telling and trying to make me shut up? Or at least try to accept other people don't have the same views you do. We will never see eye to eye about AL. I'm ok with that, you aren't. That's your problem, you want glowing only stuff to be posted. Thankfully, it's not up to you how people feel and post. You have started this thread, but you don't own it. You are coming across as immature here once again and proof you want me to shut up or things shut down that you don't like or agree with. What have I posted today that was bitching about AL? You are so quick to find offense in my recent posts and to cry foul once again.
By the way. Adele is writing songs for her new album. Cue your bitching about her ;-). Apparently it will be released late next year, so it will give you plenty of time to bitch and grind your teeth and be jealous of her success...all over again.
You are a stepford, a hypocrite and a cry baby. Feel free to compare me to Trump again. Your latest shitty tactic, since you can't claim your other shitty tactic that Queen fans are homophobic on QOL these days. Maybe you will say Queen fans here on QZ are homophobic, the way you dig your holes, you just about fall in it.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
Bryan Adams' "(Everything I do) I do for you" appeared in the credits of the Robin Hood movie and was an enormous success when released as a single from the movie soundtrack.
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But Bryan Adams was already hugely successful by the time Robin Hood came out, TFM was released in 2009 straight after Adam came off Idol. Also power ballads weren't particularly popular by that point, might have been a different story back in the 90's.
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I haven't checked the charts since the 1990s so I wouldn't know :)
There always seems to be a reason for Lambert's relative lack of success. Bad timing, poor choices, homophobia, suit never came back from the cleaners, old friend came in from out of town, locusts... In truth, he's moderately successful at best -- at least in those areas that his fans seem to obsess about -- and until he finds a genre that suits him and finds a way to stand out from hordes of other west end style crooners, power ballad divas and dance/ pop artists then he probably won't be as successful as
(whispers quietly in case SC has a stoke) Adele and Sam Smith ;)
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Exactly this, Holly. You summed it up.
SweetCaroline · Member since
New Adele album? Oh goody, if she gets it done this year she can name it “30” — that would be original !!!
Did she have another vocal cord surgery after cancelling her last UK concerts?
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
New Adele album? Oh goody, if she gets it done this year she can name it “30” — that would be original !!!
Did she have another vocal cord surgery after cancelling her last UK concerts?
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Yep, didn't take you long at all. Not even a couple of hours before you start on about Adele again. You proved me right.
At least she isn't riding on Queen's coattails. So yeah, I dare say she is pretty original compared to the guy who is making a career out of Queen songs and putting Q+AL first before anything else.
Look it up to find out. I hope if AL ever has vocal issues, you wouldn't be so snide about that the way you were/are about Adele. Not that you even like her, but thanks for your false concern. I bet you were hoping she would never be able to make music again, since you consider her a threat and competition to AL's career. Of course, AL is a God like super human according to you who can never do anything wrong, but it's alright for you to bitch about Adele and other artists. I just hope your bitterness about other artists never come back to bite you. There is enough room for many artists, but you literally want it all for Adam...and only Adam. I think Brian and Roger, even Queen is a means to an end for you as long as AL is the one singing Queen songs.
SweetCaroline · Member since
Let’s hear Adele sing TSMGO night after night! Believe me I worry and wonder how he hits those notes without damaging something! I don’t think SHE learned how to take care of her voice and the smoking doesn’t help!
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Let’s hear Adele sing TSMGO night after night! Believe me I worry and wonder how he hits those notes without damaging something! I don’t think SHE learned how to take care of her voice and the smoking doesn’t help!
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Erm, she doesn't have to sing TSMGO night after night. She's doing great with her own music, you see ;-).
AL has been very lucky so far in not hurting his voice. Heck knows, some of those Queen songs are bloody hard to sing. He doesn't always have to hit the high notes, Save Me was pretty simple, and that proved sometimes less is more in singing Queen songs.
I think AL has admitted that he smokes or smoked pot. So you are going to judge Adele because she smokes/smoked because you don't think she learned how to take care of her voice? And how would you know if she learned to take care of her voice or not, it's not as if you are a fan of Adele's, it's fair to say.
The more you bitch about Adele, the more obvious you are in your envy and bitterness about her, simply because she is more popular than AL. That absolutely makes you see red.
I'm glad she is writing again. I wish her the best, if she is not the public eye or not. She has done amazing things in the world of music, and I would be saying that even without her sales and awards. I would still be a fan of hers without the sales, awards, or even if God forbid she couldn't sing again.
Continue to lose your shit and be judgemental about Adele and other artists you feel are in AL's way. AL's career solo wise wasn't so hot for the past few years, because he made the choice to put Q+AL first. That's the choice he made, and he has to live by. Don't come crying on Queen boards making excuses that it was because of homophobia, wrong singles, awful record company, payloa, anything you can dream up as to why AL's career isn't as popular as others. I don't know what excuses you will come up with if his next music doesn't sell or do well. You have cried wolf too many times regarding his career. You are the type of person who I can see turning on Brian and Roger once Q+AL is over, because it's obvious that those two guys and their music mean zilch to you, just a means to an end that you hope it brings AL the fame and fortune. That's what you want and need...for AL and yourself.
