Madrid Show periscope:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=4a46G1_06js
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Philip, Adam singing “Killer Queen” on top of the NOTW robot and singing “Bicycle Race” while riding a flowery tricycle is a comedic blasphemy for you? What about Freddie dancing on the stage with hairy chest baring onesies and ballet slippers or super short white shorts and totally topless? Do you think THAT was being serious and dignified?
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Gee, those comparsions again.
First off, it was a Queen show. I think what Freddie did was alright, more than alright during a Queen show. Because it was a Queen show and Freddie was the lead singer.
The way you go on about Freddie wearing onesies and super short white shorts is all that Freddie ever wore if one didn't know any different. And Freddie hardly relied on the same costumes and antics year after year the way AL is doing sometimes. And at least Freddie evolved. AL...not so much because he has put Q+AL first.
Freddie had a sense of humor, I think that's obvious even with what he wore at times. AL really does seem he's trying to hard at times with the banter and some of what he wears and does during Q+AL shows, the Coronet is one prime example.
AL can do whatever he wants during his own shows, but these Q+AL shows aren't his. No matter how much you think Brian has passed the torch to AL, he is still the guest. He hasn't replaced Freddie nor is he the new Queen singer. AL could do pretty much what he wants during his own solo shows, I wouldn't bat much an eye there, but fact is these Q+AL shows, aren't his shows. It's too bad the bike, coronet is still a part of the shows. Those gimmicks are well past it's sell by date by now, IMO. Frank is even used as a gimmick by AL sitting on him and the banter about head.
All IMO.
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Philip, Adam singing “Killer Queen” on top of the NOTW robot and singing “Bicycle Race” while riding a flowery tricycle is a comedic blasphemy for you? What about Freddie dancing on the stage with hairy chest baring onesies and ballet slippers or super short white shorts and totally topless? Do you think THAT was being serious and dignified?
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I love Adam to bits but I do think you're getting a bit too defensive on his behalf, not everyone is going to feel the same, I don't really see anything wrong with what Philip put and I honestly don't see where he called it blasphemy, he just obviously would have preferred a more straight rock show rather than the comedy element Adam has introduced, he even said he was pleased for anyone who does enjoy it.
My own opinion of it is it's more a cross between a theater show and a concert than a standard rock concert. Lots of people are loving it, enough to keep them touring almost constantly, I'd say it's pretty successful but not every single person is going to like it. I find Adam funny, love his personality and all his antics amuse me and judging from the comments I see on facebook etc that seems to be part of what wins people over and they especially seem to love the rapport with Brian on STL and just the general chemistry between them all, that's a big draw. End of the day they are never going to please everybody, but so long as it's working and it stays viable it doesn't really matter in the scheme of things if a few people don't like it or even actively hate it. On the plus side there'll be more tickets available for the ones who do want to go.
Possible Facebook stream from Barcelona today:
http://m.facebook.com/MrProDJ
Icy, I empathize with you regarding your Mom’s health but you don’t have credibility from other people’s live experiences at these shows. The audience loves those humerous moments that you contemptuously flip off as “gimmicks!”
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Philip, Adam singing “Killer Queen” on top of the NOTW robot and singing “Bicycle Race” while riding a flowery tricycle is a comedic blasphemy for you? What about Freddie dancing on the stage with hairy chest baring onesies and ballet slippers or super short white shorts and totally topless? Do you think THAT was being serious and dignified?
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I love Adam to bits but I do think you're getting a bit too defensive on his behalf, not everyone is going to feel the same, I don't really see anything wrong with what Philip put and I honestly don't see where he called it blasphemy, he just obviously would have preferred a more straight rock show rather than the comedy element Adam has introduced, he even said he was pleased for anyone who does enjoy it.
My own opinion of it is it's more a cross between a theater show and a concert than a standard rock concert. Lots of people are loving it, enough to keep them touring almost constantly, I'd say it's pretty successful but not every single person is going to like it. I find Adam funny, love his personality and all his antics amuse me and judging from the comments I see on facebook etc that seems to be part of what wins people over and they especially seem to love the rapport with Brian on STL and just the general chemistry between them all, that's a big draw. End of the day they are never going to please everybody, but so long as it's working and it stays viable it doesn't really matter in the scheme of things if a few people don't like it or even actively hate it. On the plus side there'll be more tickets available for the ones who do want to go.
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Thanks for being reasonable ;-).
Can I ask you something, please don't feel you are obligated to answer. Those "antics" in the show. Do you at least wish it something new? The Coronet for example, even Freddie didn't wear it year after year. Maybe because as some of us know, Queen didn't tour after '86, but if tours kept on I'm sure things would have changed.
Queen were never one to be stuck in a rut. Now Q+AL seems to be somewhat stuck, IMO.
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Possible Facebook stream from Barcelona today:
http://m.facebook.com/MrProDJ
Icy, I empathize with you regarding your Mom’s health but you don’t have credibility from other people’s live experiences at these shows. The audience loves those humerous moments that you contemptuously flip off as “gimmicks!”
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No you don't empathize. I don't believe you for a second, because more than once recently you compared me with Donald Trump. If you had a shred of decency about anything, you would not go that far. No apologies from you, or you even admitting that you are harsh. Whatever you call it, I don't need or want your empathy. You have made it clear more than once that you will never understand or even try to understand where I'm coming from.
Again, you try to speak for everyone. You can't. You are so quick to try to defend AL, once again at the drop of a hat it comes across as absolute desperation on your part to shut down opinions you don't like and your comparing Freddie to AL. Yes,think the bike, crown and even the banter at times is gimmcky. Why is that so important to you, ask yourself that... it's hardly offensive what I and Phillip have said about it. He actually made the effort to go to a Q+AL show, and that's still not good enough for you to say the least. You still want and need praise and worship for AL from everyone. That's impossible that everyone who has attended or will attend these shows will like it...so what? Sure, many people enjoy the shows, and good for them, but not everyone will...and clearly you are unable to accept it.
Fact is, these are not AL solo shows. Except for one of his solo songs, it's not AL's music he is singing. You don't see, and you can't even try to understand why to some of us, why we feel the way we do about the Coronet and bike? The cornet is more than okay for you, because in your own words, you look at that as Brian passing the torch to AL. You think Q+AL that they came together is fate your own words, for Pete's sake. As if Freddie died just so AL has the chance to sing with Brian and Roger. Fate my ass.
I doubt you realise how and why Freddie, Queen and that legendary music was and is still important to some of us. You literally see everything through AL colored glasses, so much so you can't see or understand anything else.
Right now I am going to thow something back at you. STFU.
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
I love Adam to bits but I do think you're getting a bit too defensive on his behalf, not everyone is going to feel the same, I don't really see anything wrong with what Philip put and I honestly don't see where he called it blasphemy, he just obviously would have preferred a more straight rock show rather than the comedy element Adam has introduced, he even said he was pleased for anyone who does enjoy it.
My own opinion of it is it's more a cross between a theater show and a concert than a standard rock concert. Lots of people are loving it, enough to keep them touring almost constantly, I'd say it's pretty successful but not every single person is going to like it. I find Adam funny, love his personality and all his antics amuse me and judging from the comments I see on facebook etc that seems to be part of what wins people over and they especially seem to love the rapport with Brian on STL and just the general chemistry between them all, that's a big draw. End of the day they are never going to please everybody, but so long as it's working and it stays viable it doesn't really matter in the scheme of things if a few people don't like it or even actively hate it. On the plus side there'll be more tickets available for the ones who do want to go.
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Thanks for being reasonable ;-).
Can I ask you something, please don't feel you are obligated to answer. Those "antics" in the show. Do you at least wish it something new? The Coronet for example, even Freddie didn't wear it year after year. Maybe because as some of us know, Queen didn't tour after '86, but if tours kept on I'm sure things would have changed.
Queen were never one to be stuck in a rut. Now Q+AL seems to be somewhat stuck, IMO. [/QUOTE]
I've never really given it a lot of thought tbh, I suppose if I were going to multiple shows every time they tour I might think they should change it up. I think with everything being on YouTube it makes it seem that way but I'm not sure the fans who only see one show each tour are bothered, they seem more concerned with whether new songs will be done. If I could change one thing I'd bring back the chaise for Killer Queen rather than Frank but when you're at a show those bits are such a small part of the overall show that it doesn't really matter. At the end of the day it's the music I'm more interested in but I do think if he just stood there in a pair of jeans and a t shirt it wouldn't work. Doing his own tour it would be different but I think following in Freddie's footsteps, being the showman he was, Adam needed something big and over the top but different from what Freddie would do or it just wouldn't have enough impact. I'm sure some people would be happy with a more straightforward show but people do seem to be loving what they're doing, I've seen a lot comments saying they love how flamboyant he is.
Snifflese you hit a new low - you tell philp that he did not enjoy the show because he is disabled? You are a fucking moron and I really mean it
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
I love Adam to bits but I do think you're getting a bit too defensive on his behalf, not everyone is going to feel the same, I don't really see anything wrong with what Philip put and I honestly don't see where he called it blasphemy, he just obviously would have preferred a more straight rock show rather than the comedy element Adam has introduced, he even said he was pleased for anyone who does enjoy it.
My own opinion of it is it's more a cross between a theater show and a concert than a standard rock concert. Lots of people are loving it, enough to keep them touring almost constantly, I'd say it's pretty successful but not every single person is going to like it. I find Adam funny, love his personality and all his antics amuse me and judging from the comments I see on facebook etc that seems to be part of what wins people over and they especially seem to love the rapport with Brian on STL and just the general chemistry between them all, that's a big draw. End of the day they are never going to please everybody, but so long as it's working and it stays viable it doesn't really matter in the scheme of things if a few people don't like it or even actively hate it. On the plus side there'll be more tickets available for the ones who do want to go.
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Thanks for being reasonable ;-).
Can I ask you something, please don't feel you are obligated to answer. Those "antics" in the show. Do you at least wish it something new? The Coronet for example, even Freddie didn't wear it year after year. Maybe because as some of us know, Queen didn't tour after '86, but if tours kept on I'm sure things would have changed.
Queen were never one to be stuck in a rut. Now Q+AL seems to be somewhat stuck, IMO. [/QUOTE]
I've never really given it a lot of thought tbh, I suppose if I were going to multiple shows every time they tour I might think they should change it up. I think with everything being on YouTube it makes it seem that way but I'm not sure the fans who only see one show each tour are bothered, they seem more concerned with whether new songs will be done. If I could change one thing I'd bring back the chaise for Killer Queen rather than Frank but when you're at a show those bits are such a small part of the overall show that it doesn't really matter. At the end of the day it's the music I'm more interested in but I do think if he just stood there in a pair of jeans and a t shirt it wouldn't work. Doing his own tour it would be different but I think following in Freddie's footsteps, being the showman he was, Adam needed something big and over the top but different from what Freddie would do or it just wouldn't have enough impact. I'm sure some people would be happy with a more straightforward show but people do seem to be loving what they're doing, I've seen a lot comments saying they love how flamboyant he is.
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I have a couple of Facebook friends who went to a show during the last tour. Both didn't like AL sitting on Frank and the banter about giving or getting head.
Please don't bring back the chaise! LOL. I hope that's gone for good, honestly. I'm really disappointed that Frank is used as a gimmick in these Q+AL shows, especially since Frank was so iconic for Queen and NOTW. Frank could be used someway without AL sitting on top of it, IMO. The bike is just silly, IMO. It's actually a cheap gimmick. The Coronet...I hated that from the get go to be honest. Of all the things I do not like, I see no reason for that at all.
I guess as always some love it, like or not. I could deal with the bike, and AL singing on Frank... without the banter. The Coronet...I don't think I could ever warm up to it. I knew some AL fans would think about that is Brian and Roger passing the torch, crown, to AL...and that's exactly what some people think and feel. This Queen fan just happens to think Freddie is irreplaceable, a legend in the world of music.
Thanks for being honest, I appreciate it.
[QUOTE] [b]philip storey wrote:[/b]
The last Queen plus AL show I went to was last year at the Barclaycard Arena or Arena Baclaycard whatever they chose to call it ! Set off really early from Stamford 2.30pm after stopping for a short comfort break hit outside Brum 5pm ,we then had to fight our way the last two miles taking 1 and a half hours.Almost gave up ,why build this arena in the middle of a massive city.No car parking stewards and took another half an hour to park in disabled area. After using toilets buying mega expensive coke ,sweets programme,got to our seats and wheelchair space at 7.30ish.No support as usual ,I wont bore you but the worse bits were Adam sitting on robots head,Adam on his bike !Adams voice, Brian with his grey hair making him look sooo old.Adam wearing a small crown,no sleeping on the sidewalk or its late.The drum battle,Roger was clearly second best.Love of my life should be dropped it was all about Freddie an Mary and is not relevant these days.I have seen Queen 5 times with Freddie,2times with Paul and 2 times with Adam.For me it is over I play very little post 1980 Queen these days.At least John had the dignity to walk away from all of this.The best places to see bands these days I think is the NEC ,Sheffield Arena and Leeds Arena great views at Leeds.Will never go to see Queen again I think they are money mad,making money out of Freddies legacy.[/QUOTE]
I just want you to know, I appreciate your honesty as well. No judgement from me. Take care.
[QUOTE] [b]philip storey wrote:[/b]
Yes I saw Queen at some classic concerts ,had a great time at Milton Keynes,Queen on the crazy tour and the Knebworth show.Queen have been part of of my life for forty three years now.But there are so many other bands that I am interested in these days ,Muse,Stereophonics,Rob Zombie,Deep Purple.Isaw Bryan Adams two weeks ago and he was was great and I am seeing Sheryl Crow next week..Being disabled does make it hard getting to shows but I don't mind it's just a bummer what Queen did on their last tour,if I want to see a comedy show I will get tickets for that.For those of you that enjoy the present Queen band I am pleased for you and enjoy it ,after all people get so excited about these things![/QUOTE]
You have seen some very good artists. Jealous that you have seen Bryan Adam recently, and that you will be soon seeing Sheryl Crow! I hope you enjoy her concert.
As I said with all those annoying gimmicks Lamebird is mocking Freddie not honoring him.
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
As I said with all those annoying gimmicks Lamebird is mocking Freddie not honoring him. [/QUOTE]
The Coronet should never have happened in the first place.
If I'm a hater about anything regarding Q+AL, it's the Coronet.
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
As I said with all those annoying gimmicks Lamebird is mocking Freddie not honoring him. [/QUOTE]
He's really not, it's just his sense of humour and his wanting to make sure he's not an imitation. In his words "It's great to get people laughing, especially in today's world there's a lot of things that stress people out and disappoint people and scare people, to bring some joy and some levity, that's like the greatest gift that we have I think".
He isn't trying to replace Freddie at all, so his way is to make sure he does his own thing as much as possible whilst not going too far away vocally from the originals.
AL thinking *Legendary status for me is out of reach for me as long as Q+AL lasts.*
;-) xD