I actually love PTG. There was a little too much vibrato on the first night, but he nailed it the next two. I listened to a couple of Frddie Youtubes and to me it is apples and oranges. I listened to Freddie's recorded videos and then from a couple of live shows. What I find interesting is how different they sound. He sings it in the studio much higher and then when he sings live, it doesn't sound the same at all. Same with UP and Killer Queen. Freddie just has a deeper, more raw kind of voice and doesn't hold the notes out. He kind of cuts them off and he doesn't reach those really high notes in concert. He is not a tenor. Adam is a tenor and his voice is much lighter, more melodic, ethereal. The two voices don't have much in common and to me they sound very different. It is personal taste as to what you prefer. If you are sold on the deeper, rawer voice and that is what Queen should sound like to you, then Adam's voice may not cut it for you. I love QAL and being Broadway is just part of the draw! I don't find that to be a negative. Queen is a production, a show, much more than merely a rock show. I have no problem with that.
Holly2003 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Fred isn’t here anymore, unfortunately.
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No shit Sherlock.
I don't think you've said even one interesting thing in your time here. That's an incredible achievement...
Holly2003 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
I actually love PTG. There was a little too much vibrato on the first night, but he nailed it the next two. I listened to a couple of Frddie Youtubes and to me it is apples and oranges. I listened to Freddie's recorded videos and then from a couple of live shows. What I find interesting is how different they sound. He sings it in the studio much higher and then when he sings live, it doesn't sound the same at all. Same with UP and Killer Queen. Freddie just has a deeper, more raw kind of voice and doesn't hold the notes out. He kind of cuts them off and he doesn't reach those really high notes in concert. He is not a tenor. Adam is a tenor and his voice is much lighter, more melodic, ethereal. The two voices don't have much in common and to me they sound very different. It is personal taste as to what you prefer. If you are sold on the deeper, rawer voice and that is what Queen should sound like to you, then Adam's voice may not cut it for you. I love QAL and being Broadway is just part of the draw! I don't find that to be a negative. Queen is a production, a show, much more than merely a rock show. I have no problem with that. [/QUOTE]
No it's not a matter of personal taste. Lambert's voice is suited to some styles but rock generally isn't one of them. His failings are evident in a tasteful, subtle rock song like Play the Game. He has one approach to rock and that's to blast it out as hard as he can (e.g. Whole Lotta Love, which was terrible*). He does that with PTG and it fails miserably compared to Fred's performances. Its got nothing to do with what register they sing in. Fred had the timing, skill, and improvisational ability to make it work every time. There was magic there. Lambert does not have those qualities in the way Fred had them. He may develop them in time, but I would suggest he needs to write his own songs if he wants to deliver them with the kind of skill and passion that a genius singer-songwriter like Fred could produce. Fred has the advantage quite naturally as he wrote the song and Lambert is covering it only.
Don't be so defensive. There's no need to try to drown out alternative points of view. Lambert has skill and he's on a hiding to nothing being in a band like Queen with an established fan base that has long memories of better days. But at the same time you need to accept his voice isn't suited to all genres and songs.
* It's not just rock. His version of Johnny Cash's Ring of Fire was awful. yet I've heard him sing some really impressive stuff, like that Brigadoon music. It really suits his style.
SweetCaroline · Member since
Holly, are you proud of all of your negative remarks instead of being happy that Fred’s music is still being enjoyed in a live setting?
I don’t nitpick every little nuance of these shows. I just sit back and enjoy the hell out of them. I did the same thing at the live QE show I attended in 2012.
I never had the opportunity to see Freddie live. The closest I came was watching the whole Live Aid Show as it was happening on TV.
Holly2003 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Holly, are you proud of all of your negative remarks instead of being happy that Fred’s music is still being enjoyed in a live setting?
I don’t nitpick every little nuance of these shows. I just sit back and enjoy the hell out of them. I did the same thing at the live QE show I attended in 2012.
I never had the opportunity to see Freddie live. The closest I came was watching the whole Live Aid Show as it was happening on TV.[/QUOTE]
You only see them all as negative as you're too obsessed with Lambert to be rational; and frankly you;re too ignorant to read them carefully and comprehend them. You are a nasty piece of work.
Holly2003 · Member since
ps @snifflese "Adam is a tenor and his voice is much lighter, more melodic, ethereal."
Go listen to some early Queen LPs and tell me Lambert's voice is more melodic than Fred's.
SweetCaroline · Member since
Wow, I’M nasty? I’m happy and positive! Can you say the same?
If you are so unhappy about this collaboration, why must you even post here to bring others down just because you somehow think YOU own the place!
Holly2003 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Wow, I’M nasty? I’m happy and positive! Can you say the same?
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You're the Michael Myers of Lambert fans.
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
If you are so unhappy about this collaboration, why must you even post here to bring others down just because you somehow think YOU own the place![/QUOTE]
I've posted probably 20 times in this whole forum whereas you have Lambert Tourettes.
SweetCaroline · Member since
Lambert Tourettes! Now THAT is funny! Guilty as charged and it was that amazing middle eastern sitar version of Ring of Fire that totally sold me on the creative versatility of the guy!
Holly2003 · Member since
You are to music criticism what Michael Myers is to babysitting and campfires.
SweetCaroline · Member since
Sorry but I never saw that Michael Myers movie!
snifflese · Member since
Well, Holly, I think whether or not Adam sings rock credibly is personal taste. Everything about music is subjective and my opinion is definitely not yours. I also don't think I am being defensive. I say I can see why some will never like anyone but Freddie as his voice is quite different than Adam's and I am being defensive? Freddie's voice is a big rock voice. It is heavier and rawer and the tone is very different. Adam is never going to sound like that. Part of it is how much higher he sings as that in itself makes it sound lighter. It doesn't mean that he doesn't have the same power, it just sounds very different. I was amazed at how different Freddie sounded on records in comparison to the live videos. To my ear there is not a lot of similarity. It is way lower in tone and not nearly as melodic. And no, I don't find Freddie's voice particularly melodic. He cuts things off and it is rather staccato to my ear. Adam's voice may well be more suited to Brigadoon or Classical, but I still think he sings rock extremely well and I love PTG. That song is not a rock song like Hammer to fall and I think he does a great job with it. In the very beginning Adam needed work on some of the heavier rock songs, but I think he improves every tour and does a great job at this point. He just doesn't sound like Freddie and for many people, that is not acceptable. To others like me, I can still really enjoy it. Everyone has his own opinion. I don't expect you to feel like I do!
I also don't believe you have to write the song to sing it the best. I know many covers I prefer to the original and I am not just talking Adam. But in reference to Adam, I prefer his cover of Stay to the original and Girl Crush was better than the original. It is great to be a wonderful song writer, but I am not sure it gives you the leg up in singing it.. I totally disagree with that statement.
Are you another one who feels the need and want to point out Freddie is no longer here? People aren't stupid as you think.
It's pretty remarkable Freddie's legacy is living on after all this time. And that's not because of AL.
Don't care about his boots. Yay, more fan Granglambert worship on Queenzone courtsey ot sweetcaroline.
If you were truly happy and postive, you would not feel like you have to defend AL, which you have done thousands of times. If you were happy and postive, you would not become so upset when someone says something about AL you don't like or agree with. If you were happy and postive, you would at least understand not everyone feels the way you do about AL. You keep telling yourself you are happy and postive...proof is in your posts how you really feel.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
I have to say, I like AL singing PTG. Maybe because that is one of the Queen songs I never expected to be included in the set list.
TIU...it really isn't that good of a song to begin with, and it seems odd where it's placed n the show.So far, I don't like it.
