Advice?

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

Well at least Adele has had ega success - Lemafarts solo career has gone down the toilet, his albums suck, he has a writer's block constantly and hejust lost his recording contract. Noone goes to a QAL show to see Lamefart the goat.

He's been writing all year between gigs so no writers block and even if he had so what, so did Adele, it happens, and as to his contract, you do realize when you leave or get dropped by a label you can't officially go with another one for at least a year. Same thing happened with the last label, but he got snapped up as soon as he could sign with a new one. He's been singing with Queen to rave reviews and fans praising him everywhere, I doubt he'll have any trouble finding a new label.

I didn't realise one could not sign to another record label for a full year after leaving or being dropped by a record company. That's pretty shitty.

Yeah apparently it's written into the contract. I suspect that's why Adam suddenly went from saying his album was more or less finished to starting again, thought it seemed strange at the time. Every time he gets asked now he fudges a bit, which would make sense if he can't say anything at the moment. I heard as well that when you change label or are dropped the material you've already done is owned by them, not certain that's true but if so that would also tie in with him appearing to change direction and start again. I'd be well peed off if that is true.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

Well at least Adele has had ega success - Lemafarts solo career has gone down the toilet, his albums suck, he has a writer's block constantly and hejust lost his recording contract. Noone goes to a QAL show to see Lamefart the goat.

He's been writing all year between gigs so no writers block and even if he had so what, so did Adele, it happens, and as to his contract, you do realize when you leave or get dropped by a label you can't officially go with another one for at least a year. Same thing happened with the last label, but he got snapped up as soon as he could sign with a new one. He's been singing with Queen to rave reviews and fans praising him everywhere, I doubt he'll have any trouble finding a new label.

I didn't realise one could not sign to another record label for a full year after leaving or being dropped by a record company. That's pretty shitty.

Yeah apparently it's written into the contract. I suspect that's why Adam suddenly went from saying his album was more or less finished to starting again, thought it seemed strange at the time. Every time he gets asked now he fudges a bit, which would make sense if he can't say anything at the moment. I heard as well that when you change label or are dropped the material you've already done is owned by them, not certain that's true but if so that would also tie in with him appearing to change direction and start again. I'd be well peed off if that is true.

Damn. That's complicated. It will be harder than I thought.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Damn. That's complicated. It will be harder than I thought.

My guess is he's probably already got a label lined up but can't officially sign or say anything yet. He recently said in interview about how the time has to be right when asked about new music, probably a subtle reference to the situation. Just my guess but a few things he's said have made me think there's a lot he can't say.

If Lambert has been dropped by his record company then it is due to poor sales and that proves no one is interested in his music? Queen are keeping this sinking swan a float for now then!

happystar wrote:

If Lambert has been dropped by his record company then it is due to poor sales and that proves no one is interested in his music? Queen are keeping this sinking swan a float for now then!

There's lots of reasons they drop you, especially if like Adam you just aren't willing to compromise, he walked away last time because they wanted him to do a covers album. A lot of things recently point to him having a difference of opinion on what he wants to do next and like he proved last time he isn't good at being told what to do. He's in a better position this time since the album was already out when he left before, so if he has to walk away and start again so be it, better that than put out some music he doesn't believe in. For the first time he recently admitted he didn't agree with the single put out off his second album but they wouldn't go with the one he wanted. My guess from his recent comments is that he's gonna wait until he gets to do things his way. Who knows he may even go independent if he has to.

If Lambert really has to wait a year, before he can sign on another label, then he hasn‘t been dropped. This rule can only apply, when HE didn‘t fulfill a contract and left early.

Sealion wrote:

If Lambert really has to wait a year, before he can sign on another label, then he hasn‘t been dropped. This rule can only apply, when HE didn‘t fulfill a contract and left early.

I've heard the rule applies regardless who does the leaving but if that isn't the case then it wouldn't surprise me if he left, he really doesn't like being told what to do and I get the feeling he want's to go in a different direction musically, maybe they weren't on board with what he want's to do, though if he's intending going in a more blues/rock/soul direction I can't imagine why they wouldn't be.

I don‘t know much about Lambert and his label(s). And I‘m not an insider of the music business. But from my knowledge, a label can‘t drop a client AND permit them to go to another label. If the client was a really struggling artist (and most musicians, who get dropped, are exactly that), they would permit him to earn money by recording music. That would be against the law.
They can only do that as a penalty, when the musician leaves, before a contract is fulfilled or when he leaves early and they don‘t find another solution.

How embarrassing can Glamtarts get to defend this loser? He has been dropped and can do what ever he wants - what a POS comment to say he cannot release anything withon a year . Bullcrap or you have his contract?
And the comment "he did not compromise"??????? This wanker is a compromise in itself. He tried covers , treid EM Dance shit, Whiteny Houston / Celine Dion ballds and his career went into the toilet. He sang songs by
Max Martin and the result was another flop. This guy would do anything to keep his no talent in the spotlight. He failed thru and thur. Qith QAL he is pretending to be a rocker and is failing as well. People see him as the guy that makes em see Maylor again regardless how shitty his crap singing . He is a complete tosser, a loser and his career is fucking over. Too bad he dstroyrd the best band in the world and makes Maylor look like two elderly guys who are out of their minds selling this shitshow to the world

Sealion wrote:

I don‘t know much about Lambert and his label(s). And I‘m not an insider of the music business. But from my knowledge, a label can‘t drop a client AND permit them to go to another label. If the client was a really struggling artist (and most musicians, who get dropped, are exactly that), they would permit him to earn money by recording music. That would be against the law.
They can only do that as a penalty, when the musician leaves, before a contract is fulfilled or when he leaves early and they don‘t find another solution.

Every record label is happy for not having this tool inder contract

runner_70 wrote:

How embarrassing can Glamtarts get to defend this loser? He has been dropped and can do what ever he wants - what a POS comment to say he cannot release anything withon a year . Bullcrap or you have his contract?
And the comment "he did not compromise"??????? This wanker is a compromise in itself. He tried covers , treid EM Dance shit, Whiteny Houston / Celine Dion ballds and his career went into the toilet. He sang songs by
Max Martin and the result was another flop. This guy would do anything to keep his no talent in the spotlight. He failed thru and thur. Qith QAL he is pretending to be a rocker and is failing as well. People see him as the guy that makes em see Maylor again regardless how shitty his crap singing . He is a complete tosser, a loser and his career is fucking over. Too bad he dstroyrd the best band in the world and makes Maylor look like two elderly guys who are out of their minds selling this shitshow to the world

He has never released covers and nor has he done Whitney or Celine, no idea where you get that idea from, think you're mixing him up with Martel. He isn't a failure, far from it, and yes they can stop you moving labels and releasing music for x amount of time. Not saying that is the case just a possibility. Time will tell once he ends the tour with Queen and starts back on album four. Go check out some other artists and their problems with labels, there's a ton of them out there, Prince for one.

As to the QAL collab, I see you got fed up arguing with everyone on facebook who saw the last two shows and loved them!! Weren't really garnering much support for your comments were you? Think the review and comments pretty much negate your take on Maylor and Lambert don't you.

Sealion wrote:

I don‘t know much about Lambert and his label(s). And I‘m not an insider of the music business. But from my knowledge, a label can‘t drop a client AND permit them to go to another label. If the client was a really struggling artist (and most musicians, who get dropped, are exactly that), they would permit him to earn money by recording music. That would be against the law.
They can only do that as a penalty, when the musician leaves, before a contract is fulfilled or when he leaves early and they don‘t find another solution.

What concerns me now, since his leaving WB that it could put his own music even further back. He did change his mind what the sound we be like.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Sealion wrote:

I don‘t know much about Lambert and his label(s). And I‘m not an insider of the music business. But from my knowledge, a label can‘t drop a client AND permit them to go to another label. If the client was a really struggling artist (and most musicians, who get dropped, are exactly that), they would permit him to earn money by recording music. That would be against the law.
They can only do that as a penalty, when the musician leaves, before a contract is fulfilled or when he leaves early and they don‘t find another solution.

What concerns me now, since his leaving WB that it could put his own music even further back. He did change his mind what the sound we be like.

My initial thought was he presented them with music they didn't agree with and they told him to go and do something different, and maybe they did and still weren't happy or he refused? Either way from what he's said I get the impression he knows things he just can't talk about so fingers crossed it's just a timing thing. It sounded like he would be putting something out by the end of the year, my guess would be just a single, and then the album next year. The way the industry has gone it could work better to put your own music out rather than have a label, maybe he'll do that.

Sealion wrote:

I don‘t know much about Lambert and his label(s). And I‘m not an insider of the music business. But from my knowledge, a label can‘t drop a client AND permit them to go to another label. If the client was a really struggling artist (and most musicians, who get dropped, are exactly that), they would permit him to earn money by recording music. That would be against the law.
They can only do that as a penalty, when the musician leaves, before a contract is fulfilled or when he leaves early and they don‘t find another solution.

Don't know if it's the case with Adam but labels along with other kinds of businesses can get you to sign a non compete clause whereby you can't find work in direct competition with the job you're leaving or have been sacked from for x amount of time. I'm sure it could probably be challenged in court but notoriously those cases can take ages to settle or even get to court so it's whether you're prepared to be tied up in a legal battle and unable to release music until it's settled.

Also it's possible that with all the work with Queen he hasn't given them enough albums, they usually specify a certain number per so many years. Rita Ora had that problem with her label and they sued her and whilst it was ongoing she wasn't allowed to sign to another label.