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The type O's in my post probably didn't help, I was rushing!
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Sealion
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
The type O's in my post probably didn't help, I was rushing!
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I found your post really interesting, thank you!
And now I know, why I don’t find that old stage that impressive any longer, when I watch it on TV... lol
The type O's in my post probably didn't help, I was rushing!
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I found your post really interesting, thank you!
And now I know, why I don’t find that old stage that impressive any longer, when I watch it on TV... lol
Vocal harmony
Thank you.
Back in the day the Queen shows were stunning, but so were Genisis, Pink Floyd and AC/DC and Van Halen in the early 80's.
The one thing these had in common was that they were very lighting focused, and produced visually stunning and musically memorable tours.
By the end of the 80's the production values that were associated with those acts were wide spread, to the point that whether it was U2, Madonna, Micheal Jackson, AC/DC and any number of others visually they had all caught up
Looking back, because the way the industry has progressed, those 70's and 80's shows will never have the impact now that they had then.
The type of show Queen are touring with now was probably pioneered by NIN in 2014. Those shows used lighting in lots of scene formats that changed from song to song. They also used an upstage video screen and a second down stage screen, the front one which was flown in and out of view changed the visual impact of the stage dramatically. They were used to both show film/ video and add colour.
The Queen show does look different and plays out completely differently but it's DNA shows through.
Back in the day the Queen shows were stunning, but so were Genisis, Pink Floyd and AC/DC and Van Halen in the early 80's.
The one thing these had in common was that they were very lighting focused, and produced visually stunning and musically memorable tours.
By the end of the 80's the production values that were associated with those acts were wide spread, to the point that whether it was U2, Madonna, Micheal Jackson, AC/DC and any number of others visually they had all caught up
Looking back, because the way the industry has progressed, those 70's and 80's shows will never have the impact now that they had then.
The type of show Queen are touring with now was probably pioneered by NIN in 2014. Those shows used lighting in lots of scene formats that changed from song to song. They also used an upstage video screen and a second down stage screen, the front one which was flown in and out of view changed the visual impact of the stage dramatically. They were used to both show film/ video and add colour.
The Queen show does look different and plays out completely differently but it's DNA shows through.
Thistle
Yeah, it was a very informative post. Thanks :)
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
Back in the day the Queen shows were stunning, but so were Genisis, Pink Floyd and AC/DC and Van Halen in the early 80's.[/QUOTE]
And this story as told by Diamond Dave himself is just so completely timeless.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
Looking back, because the way the industry has progressed, those 70's and 80's shows will never have the impact now that they had then.[/QUOTE]
It really must have been so exciting to be around back then when this was all so new.
But the sentiment even goes far beyond music. People generally aren't too shocked or blown away by too many things anymore, in this day and age of internet instant gratification.
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
By the end of the 80's the production values that were associated with those acts were wide spread, to the point that whether it was U2, Madonna, Micheal Jackson, AC/DC and any number of others visually they had all caught up[/QUOTE]
Add Bowie to the list. The Glass Spider tour was initially panned, but it had a profound influence on future productions.
Looking back, because the way the industry has progressed, those 70's and 80's shows will never have the impact now that they had then.[/QUOTE]
It really must have been so exciting to be around back then when this was all so new.
But the sentiment even goes far beyond music. People generally aren't too shocked or blown away by too many things anymore, in this day and age of internet instant gratification.
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
By the end of the 80's the production values that were associated with those acts were wide spread, to the point that whether it was U2, Madonna, Micheal Jackson, AC/DC and any number of others visually they had all caught up[/QUOTE]
Add Bowie to the list. The Glass Spider tour was initially panned, but it had a profound influence on future productions.
dysan
The Glass Spider was basically a travelling pantomime.
Vocal harmony
Indeed, the Glass Spider shows were another huge step forward at the time.
I still find it exciting even today. Unfortunatly a lot of the inpact of seeing a live production now has been lost as everything is all over YouTube after the the first night of a tour.
The other thing to remember, from a proffecional point of view, almost everything you see in most productions is put together using off the shelf components, or redesigned/reconfigured of the shelf products. So although the audience is seeing something new, what us "insiders" see is a development and progression from a year or two before.
From a lighting point of view, for years and years the Parcan was the standard lamp, in different guises. Every 70's and 80's Queen show was based around Parcans. However in the very early 80's the Varilite appeared. Genesis who put money into the development of the varilite were the first band to take out an entirely Varilite based rig, a major leap forward, up until 86 Queen still used the old and largely outdated Parcans. The first series varilite were developed and the system is now standard, the French Klay Paky company are probably the leading and most wide spread development of the original Varilite.
I still find it exciting even today. Unfortunatly a lot of the inpact of seeing a live production now has been lost as everything is all over YouTube after the the first night of a tour.
The other thing to remember, from a proffecional point of view, almost everything you see in most productions is put together using off the shelf components, or redesigned/reconfigured of the shelf products. So although the audience is seeing something new, what us "insiders" see is a development and progression from a year or two before.
From a lighting point of view, for years and years the Parcan was the standard lamp, in different guises. Every 70's and 80's Queen show was based around Parcans. However in the very early 80's the Varilite appeared. Genesis who put money into the development of the varilite were the first band to take out an entirely Varilite based rig, a major leap forward, up until 86 Queen still used the old and largely outdated Parcans. The first series varilite were developed and the system is now standard, the French Klay Paky company are probably the leading and most wide spread development of the original Varilite.
mooghead
"The type O's"
Now you are discriminating against blood types??
Seriously though. This thread is everything that is wrong with this message board. So much for a 'fan site'. That is why all I can do is take the piss.
I thought I was a cunt but happystar has taken it to the next level. I still think it is a board regular who has snapped.
Now you are discriminating against blood types??
Seriously though. This thread is everything that is wrong with this message board. So much for a 'fan site'. That is why all I can do is take the piss.
I thought I was a cunt but happystar has taken it to the next level. I still think it is a board regular who has snapped.
Star*
Who is discriminating against blood types? Was not me mooghead and for your information your are C***
The Fairy King
[QUOTE] [b]happystar wrote:[/b]
Who is discriminating against blood types? Was not me mooghead and for your information your are C***[/QUOTE]
Pick one:
you're a*
you are a*
More things not out of the ordinary:
>happystar with his usual bias and venom starts a ditto thread where he can bash QAL. Information he got from a very shady source, but he doesn't care as long as it "substantiates" his bias.
>happystar doesn't get sarcasm.
>People actually try to make this shitty thread worthwhile and informative.
>happystar doesn't add anything to his own thread but malicious cuntery.
I applaud the people actually making an effort to save this thread.
Who is discriminating against blood types? Was not me mooghead and for your information your are C***[/QUOTE]
Pick one:
you're a*
you are a*
More things not out of the ordinary:
>happystar with his usual bias and venom starts a ditto thread where he can bash QAL. Information he got from a very shady source, but he doesn't care as long as it "substantiates" his bias.
>happystar doesn't get sarcasm.
>People actually try to make this shitty thread worthwhile and informative.
>happystar doesn't add anything to his own thread but malicious cuntery.
I applaud the people actually making an effort to save this thread.
Cruella de Vil
Dear Mr Happystar, I was quite astounded by your 'threat': " if we were in a pub id take you outside and sort this out. " REALLY? This is a forum about a rock band. Go to an anger management specialist and fuck off.
Star*
Cruella de vil You spout off about me needing anger management course when you have just told me to fuck off, well you are a joke and your name matches you
down to the ground cruella de vill !
I think you should get of my fucking thread fuck wit,
down to the ground cruella de vill !
I think you should get of my fucking thread fuck wit,
Holly2003
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
Indeed, the Glass Spider shows were another huge step forward at the time.
I still find it exciting even today. Unfortunatly a lot of the inpact of seeing a live production now has been lost as everything is all over YouTube after the the first night of a tour.
The other thing to remember, from a proffecional point of view, almost everything you see in most productions is put together using off the shelf components, or redesigned/reconfigured of the shelf products. So although the audience is seeing something new, what us "insiders" see is a development and progression from a year or two before.
From a lighting point of view, for years and years the Parcan was the standard lamp, in different guises. Every 70's and 80's Queen show was based around Parcans. However in the very early 80's the Varilite appeared. Genesis who put money into the development of the varilite were the first band to take out an entirely Varilite based rig, a major leap forward, up until 86 Queen still used the old and largely outdated Parcans. The first series varilite were developed and the system is now standard, the French Klay Paky company are probably the leading and most wide spread development of the original Varilite.
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Surely all that's required for a rock concert is a red guitar, three chords and the truth? :)
Indeed, the Glass Spider shows were another huge step forward at the time.
I still find it exciting even today. Unfortunatly a lot of the inpact of seeing a live production now has been lost as everything is all over YouTube after the the first night of a tour.
The other thing to remember, from a proffecional point of view, almost everything you see in most productions is put together using off the shelf components, or redesigned/reconfigured of the shelf products. So although the audience is seeing something new, what us "insiders" see is a development and progression from a year or two before.
From a lighting point of view, for years and years the Parcan was the standard lamp, in different guises. Every 70's and 80's Queen show was based around Parcans. However in the very early 80's the Varilite appeared. Genesis who put money into the development of the varilite were the first band to take out an entirely Varilite based rig, a major leap forward, up until 86 Queen still used the old and largely outdated Parcans. The first series varilite were developed and the system is now standard, the French Klay Paky company are probably the leading and most wide spread development of the original Varilite.
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Surely all that's required for a rock concert is a red guitar, three chords and the truth? :)
Star*
VH On the subject of lighting i always thought Queen had poor lighting on stage back in 1974 around the time of the Rainbow concert, the band were very dark on stage and apart from the odd green haze of light going around the stage i thought the lighting let them down very badly.