How do you feel about Roger and Brian carrying on as Queen without Freddie and John?
“Well, when Fred died, John was like: ‘That’s it, there’s no more Queen.’ Brian and Roger wanted to carry on in the various guises of Queen, and I understand why they want to do that. I’m not sure that’s the right thing to do. They can still be musicians without using the Queen name. But the fame game – people like to keep it up as long as they can.”
Many Queen fans would agree with you: no Freddie, no Queen.
“That’s most poignant thing. After Fred died, you can never recreate that, no matter what guise it is. I saw the Queen + Paul Rodgers thing, and he’s one of my favourite singers, but it was completely the wrong fit. And as for Adam Lambert, I’m sure he can sing, but it’s a bit like some Vegas cabaret in a way. You know, if you never saw the band, well, here’s half the band. But it’s not for me.”
I disagree with PR but agree on the AL thing. He is so damn spot on. No wonder Brian hated his book and described him as an "Ex Roadie"
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
How do you feel about Roger and Brian carrying on as Queen without Freddie and John?
“Well, when Fred died, John was like: ‘That’s it, there’s no more Queen.’ Brian and Roger wanted to carry on in the various guises of Queen, and I understand why they want to do that. I’m not sure that’s the right thing to do. They can still be musicians without using the Queen name. But the fame game – people like to keep it up as long as they can.”
Many Queen fans would agree with you: no Freddie, no Queen.
“That’s most poignant thing. After Fred died, you can never recreate that, no matter what guise it is. I saw the Queen + Paul Rodgers thing, and he’s one of my favourite singers, but it was completely the wrong fit. And as for Adam Lambert, I’m sure he can sing, but it’s a bit like some Vegas cabaret in a way. You know, if you never saw the band, well, here’s half the band. But it’s not for me.”
I disagree with PR but agree on the AL thing. He is so damn spot on. No wonder Brian hated his book and described him as an "Ex Roadie"[/QUOTE]
And your point is?
He's entitled to his opinion, the same as you but that's all it is, an opinion, we all have them, they aren't fact though.
runner_70 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
And your point is?
He's entitled to his opinion, the same as you but that's all it is, an opinion, we all have them, they aren't fact though. [/QUOTE]
MY point is that even those that have been close to Queen hate this awful collaboration and think That Maylor are shameful to drag the QUeen name into the dirt
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
And your point is?
He's entitled to his opinion, the same as you but that's all it is, an opinion, we all have them, they aren't fact though. [/QUOTE]
MY point is that even those that have been close to Queen hate this awful collaboration and think That Maylor are shameful to drag the QUeen name into the dirt[/QUOTE]
He's one person that's hardly representative of everyone who's been close to Queen. Some agree with them some don't, like I said, it's all opinions.
flash00. · Member since
It's all about fame and money money money!!! Absolutely bollox about they do it out of their love for music etc Brian and Roger do it out of greed as they don't make new music and most Queen fans know this. Good on Peter Hince for his honesty.
Just check Roger in interviews in later years he can't be bothered even though he knows it's fans who read or listen to those kind of music interviews and Brian just moan's and kisses celebrities backsides, so think about it when they both say it's for the love of music.
So the days of four young lads touring in the back of a Ford Transit van and having an amazing time is long gone.. Roger talks about the "brand" these days not band I think I last heard the word brand by the Kardashians so think about it. Don't worry about Brian and Roger they are not Queen and they won't drop AL until they are done with him.
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]flash00. wrote:[/b]
It's all about fame and money money money!!! Absolutely bollox about they do it out of their love for music etc Brian and Roger do it out of greed as they don't make new music and most Queen fans know this. Good on Peter Hince for his honesty.
Just check Roger in interviews in later years he can't be bothered even though he knows it's fans who read or listen to those kind of music interviews and Brian just moan's and kisses celebrities backsides, so think about it when they both say it's for the love of music.
So the days of four young lads touring in the back of a Ford Transit van and having an amazing time is long gone.. Roger talks about the "brand" these days not band I think I last heard the word brand by the Kardashians so think about it. Don't worry about Brian and Roger they are not Queen and they won't drop AL until they are done with him.[/QUOTE]
How do you know they don't do it because they love live performing? Music's a passion not just a job, loads of musicians tour late in life, look at Rod Stewart, Rolling Stones et al, they don't all need more money, B & R are worth a fortune, why would they bother if they didn't enjoy it. And yeah touring in the back of a transit van is long gone, why would they when they can afford a private jet?
Spin it any way you like, makes no odds because like you say they'll tour until they get fed up and it's no one else's business anyway, they don't need anyone's permission.
runner_70 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]flash00. wrote:[/b]
It's all about fame and money money money!!! Absolutely bollox about they do it out of their love for music etc Brian and Roger do it out of greed as they don't make new music and most Queen fans know this. Good on Peter Hince for his honesty.
Just check Roger in interviews in later years he can't be bothered even though he knows it's fans who read or listen to those kind of music interviews and Brian just moan's and kisses celebrities backsides, so think about it when they both say it's for the love of music.
So the days of four young lads touring in the back of a Ford Transit van and having an amazing time is long gone.. Roger talks about the "brand" these days not band I think I last heard the word brand by the Kardashians so think about it. Don't worry about Brian and Roger they are not Queen and they won't drop AL until they are done with him.[/QUOTE]
Very good posting especially the brand thing
Sunshine · Member since
Oh man, come on. 'The days of four young lads touring in the back of a Ford Transit van and having an amazing time is long gone'. Really?? Yes of course they are gone, it is history.
No one knows the true motivation. Maybe it's fame, maybe it's fortune, maybe it's the joy of playing, maybe it's an artistic need, maybe it's the touring itself, who know?
And what is wrong about doing it for a mixture of above reasons? It's their company, Queen Inc. And yes of course, it IS a brand. What's the shock about that?
Compare it with Apple: it would be also ridicilous to say *the days are over where Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak were building computers in their garage and having an amazing time are long gone".
Jobs died, the brand continued and making great products. If you don't like it, perfect, then do not buy an Apple product. That's fine, no one tells you that you need to.
One of the founding members from Queen died, so that means they should quit everything they built up together?
Just let everyone do whatever they want. Peter Hince it looks like Las Vegas cabaret. Yes that is his opinion. It's even true, I agree. But so what? If Freddie would have lived, they might have been going in the same direction. Or not, who knows? It doesn't matter.
Just stop comparing Queen with Freddie Mercury, it is utterly useless. And portraying Brian and Roger as greeding pigs that are only here to take money from you is nonsense as well.
If you don't like the set up, then do not focus on it and see another band. Perfectly fine. No one tells you that you need to like it.
Personally I see it as an opportunity to see a great live act with great songs and great musicianship.
The Fairy King · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Sunshine wrote:[/b]
Oh man, come on. 'The days of four young lads touring in the back of a Ford Transit van and having an amazing time is long gone'. Really?? Yes of course they are gone, it is history.
No one knows the true motivation. Maybe it's fame, maybe it's fortune, maybe it's the joy of playing, maybe it's an artistic need, maybe it's the touring itself, who know?
And what is wrong about doing it for a mixture of above reasons? It's their company, Queen Inc. And yes of course, it IS a brand. What's the shock about that?
Compare it with Apple: it would be also ridicilous to say *the days are over where Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak were building computers in their garage and having an amazing time are long gone".
Jobs died, the brand continued and making great products. If you don't like it, perfect, then do not buy an Apple product. That's fine, no one tells you that you need to.
One of the founding members from Queen died, so that means they should quit everything they built up together?
Just let everyone do whatever they want. Peter Hince it looks like Las Vegas cabaret. Yes that is his opinion. It's even true, I agree. But so what? If Freddie would have lived, they might have been going in the same direction. Or not, who knows? It doesn't matter.
Just stop comparing Queen with Freddie Mercury, it is utterly useless. And portraying Brian and Roger as greeding pigs that are only here to take money from you is nonsense as well.
If you don't like the set up, then do not focus on it and see another band. Perfectly fine. No one tells you that you need to like it.
Personally I see it as an opportunity to see a great live act with great songs and great musicianship.
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No use in trying to talk sense into the guy.
He's stubborn as a mule..
Basically trying to gather soundbites of ex-Queen-employees to push his agenda.
Utter waste of space.
popy · Member since
In an audio interview after Freddie died, Roger said that he and John will carry on with Queen either Brian joins them or not. It was posted in the forum a few months ago. Let's see if i can find it.
runner_70 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]popy wrote:[/b]
In an audio interview after Freddie died, Roger said that he and John will carry on with Queen either Brian joins them or not. It was posted in the forum a few months ago. Let's see if i can find it.[/QUOTE]
I smell bullshit reading this especially concerning John
The Fairy King · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]popy wrote:[/b]
In an audio interview after Freddie died, Roger said that he and John will carry on with Queen either Brian joins them or not. It was posted in the forum a few months ago. Let's see if i can find it.[/QUOTE]
I smell bullshit reading this especially concerning John
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You better change your diaper, because he's right.
Dim · Member since
From psychiatric point of view, most of the the rock stars, artists etc, need the attention, the security and the applause of the audience. All this is in their subconscious is their mother. Their mother's attention.
All of them have money but the road gives them what their psyche subconscious needs. So they get both money and piece of mind
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]bucsateflon wrote:[/b]
John Deacon got upset when BM came back and trashed all John's work on "Made in heaven" and RT didn't back him up. That's why he eventually left Queen.
Probably BM and RT didn't respect JD because he indulged and fed Freddie's musical downwards spiral into inferior music, made using the Queen brand, I'm only speculating here....
also John Deacon is the unfaithful one to Freddie's work as he wanted to change and cut BohRap to a more commercial appeal. Glad to see this is also depicted in the upcoming movie.
As to roadie Hince... Somewhere down the line (before his book) he wasn't a member of the remaining Queen production family, resentment is evident. Probably not being asked to be involved with Queen+ and their projects/tour, upset him. Just speculating again.
Also BM and RT continuing under Queen name, they are entitled to do so considering how "Queen" was born as a band.
The part about the "cabaret screecher" called Adam Lambert, well he is just a compromise like the "Hot Space" album was or many other thing in Queen.[/QUOTE]
Wrong about John and Ratty
After Made in Heaven John went on to record Only The Good Die Young with Brian and Roger, he played a low key charity event with Roger as Queen, he played with Brian and Roger fronted by Elton John in Paris
Peter Hince (Ratty) retired from the road, being a roadie a the end of The Works tour. Freddie asked him to come back for The Magic tour which he did but didn't enjoy. At the end of it he went back to his photography business
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]popy wrote:[/b]
In an audio interview after Freddie died, Roger said that he and John will carry on with Queen either Brian joins them or not. It was posted in the forum a few months ago. Let's see if i can find it.[/QUOTE]
I smell bullshit reading this especially concerning John
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It's your shit you can smell. Roger and John did work on Made In Haven for a while and were prepared to do so without Brian
