They won't allow you to post multiple videos of a complete concert either, they will allow 20 minutes of one concert. Once you are on their radar you are fucked. They tend to ban your highest rating videos first. I had a Q+AL channel with about 500 vid's, every 24 hours they would get 20 or so videos blocked. After 2 months I had around 70 vids left. Adam linked one of my vids on twitter, it got 20,000 views in 12 hours, and then was pulled by Believe. I closed my channel, they will wear you down mate.
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Chinwonder2 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
Damn :-( The 20 minute information is something you got from an official source? [/QUOTE]
I was emailed by Mr Laurence James himself, head of Believe Music.
-Chin[/QUOTE]
I would check into it a bit further, I just typed believe music into google and a lot of results come up about fake copyright claims by them, threating YouTube strikes if you don't comply. It seems they're claiming copyright for things that they don't own and hoping threats will stop people pursuing it.
pittrek · Member since
Believe Music DOES represent Queen, don't speculate.
https://www.believemusic.com/video-services/
people on streets · Member since
Good riddance.
Sharing complete shows on youtube. That's wrong for so many reasons. Quality loss being one. Always hated it.
Another reason I don't share the shows I tape.
https://u2torrents.com -> a fine example of sharing concerts done well.
Sorry for the loss of your 4000 followers. Maybe you can start a youtube make-up tutorial channel to win them back!
Chinwonder2 · Member since
^ Not even going to respond to you right now.
But for those of you who are interested in keeping up to date, this is a quote from my first interaction with Laurence James. The dude who’s been behind all my videos being claimed/taken down etc. This struck me very weird...as you’ll see.
"We can also supply a thank you note signed by Brian and Roger, for your co-operation."
"I'd hope as a Queen fan you would respect the bands wishes on this."
Now, this to me almost seems like dangling candy in front of children hoping they take it. Doesn’t sound legit to me, but I’m currently at the mercy of this/these people as YouTube’s system is so fundamentally flawed. Anybody can claim a video as their own, and don’t receive any punishment otherwise.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
Believe Music DOES represent Queen, don't speculate.
https://www.believemusic.com/video-services/
[/QUOTE]
Yet their client list is a bunch of indie labels.
https://www.believemusic.com/our-clients
No major label (including Universal) is named.
Google "believe music scam" before deciding this is legit.
MemeOverlord69 · Member since
Youtube is such a shitty platform. They need to implement some sort of protection against copyright abusers like Believe.
On another note, wouldn't it just be easier for them to monetize your videos with their own ads and profit off of them like that? I know they do that with some of mine with their auto detection system which is alright by me since most people use adblock anyway.
Chinwonder2 · Member since
^ Exactly, if they were generating profit on my videos (which on 90% they were) why remove the videos? Bit counter productive init?
pittrek · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Chinwonder2 wrote:[/b]
^ Not even going to respond to you right now.
But for those of you who are interested in keeping up to date, this is a quote from my first interaction with Laurence James. The dude who’s been behind all my videos being claimed/taken down etc. This struck me very weird...as you’ll see.
"We can also supply a thank you note signed by Brian and Roger, for your co-operation."
"I'd hope as a Queen fan you would respect the bands wishes on this."
Now, this to me almost seems like dangling candy in front of children hoping they take it. Doesn’t sound legit to me, but I’m currently at the mercy of this/these people as YouTube’s system is so fundamentally flawed. Anybody can claim a video as their own, and don’t receive any punishment otherwise.[/QUOTE]
Hehe, this reminds me on "my" emails ;-)
[QUOTE]
Unfortunately, we must disagree with your statements that your postings qualify as fair use. Please note that using copyrighted material without authorization from the copyright owner constitutes, among other things, copyright infringement and can also result in the termination of your YouTube account. For more information about copyright issues, please visit Copyright on YouTube located at: https://www.youtube.com/yt/copyright/#yt-copyright-education.
We do understand that you want to maintain your YouTube account in good standing and would like to avoid any penalties that may have resulted from our claims. To resolve the issues raised, we propose that you agree to withdraw your disputes, remove the videos at issue... [/QUOTE]
And this comes from me disputing videos which WERE fair use :) Don't you just LOVE the tone?
Chinwonder2 · Member since
Yeah, everything is so hostile and it's just because they're greedy bastards. As I've said numerous times, I've made £0.00 from my uploads and all their Content ID claims have profited them somewhat...
With copyright and fair use, there's like 1% chance of winning if you're a content creator on YouTube.
-Chin
pittrek · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
Believe Music DOES represent Queen, don't speculate.
https://www.believemusic.com/video-services/
[/QUOTE]
Yet their client list is a bunch of indie labels.
https://www.believemusic.com/our-clients
No major label (including Universal) is named.
Google "believe music scam" before deciding this is legit.
[/QUOTE]
If you google it, you will find some ACCUSATIONS, but no proof. Looks like a few years ago their own ContentID system used to get many false positives, which is extremely annoying, but unfortunately normal. However open ANY music video on the "Queen Official" youtube channel, you will find in the description : " Licensed to YouTube by
UMG, Believe Music (on behalf of Queen YouTube Music Key); UBEM, CMRRA, SOLAR Music Rights Management, and 9 Music Rights Societies" or a variation of it.