How's Adam's Opera range,song writing ability as for Brian saying Adams hits all the high notes better than Freddie if he said that I find that an awfull remark by Dr May.Freddie is a ledgnd who will never be forgotton.Mr Lambert soon as Queen call it a day he will fade away.
snifflese · Member since
His opera range is way better than Freddie. Check out the Nessun Dorma video from a short while ago on here. His is a true trained tenor and he studied opera. Freddie's technique just was nowhere near as good. Brian is only speaking the truth, so there should be no problem with that. Go listen to Adam's version of Love Kills and compare it to Freddie. There is no comparison, although many may prefer Freddie's more raw, rock version. Adam's is more a ballad and he kills the high notes and it is tremendous. Freddie sings in a staccato fashion with a lot of vibrato, cutting off the notes and he sounds raw and shouty when singing the high notes. Adam hits the high notes beautifully and holds them out so that they soar. They are two entirely different kinds of singers and it is just a matter of what sound do you prefer. But to say that Adam can't sing and has no range is absolutely ridiculous. He will always have a career later on as a voice like that is just going to be singing. He is extremely well respected among people that value a voice. I imagine there will be more and more opportunities for him and he may well be on Broadway where you really have to bring it night in, night out. As long as he can have the fabulous experience of singing with Brian and Roger, singing the best musical catalog ever, to adoring crowds every night, why not? You would have to be a fool not to sing as part of QAL. There is probably almost nothing better than that gig. The three of them love performing together, so that is just the cherry on top!!
These things never work for me, but this is where to find the interview with Brian. It is down the page on the Queen Will Rock site and it is a pic of Brian and it says Mandela somewhere on that one.
He talks about Adam's voice and Freddie. I wasn't making it up!!
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
I’ve never seen Freddie live, only on DVDs. He moved non-stop, so much so that he was the whole show and pretty much upstaged the other 3 band members.
That was fine back then but Adam has too much admiration and respect for the legends he is performing with now to try to be the whole show.
Too fat? Hmmm, I don’t think he would fit in those tight leather pants if he is fat. He has a big frame, broad shoulders, long legs and moves pretty good for being over 6 feet!
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Are you implying that Freddie had no respect for Brian, Roger and John?
Because he had respect for them, and vice versa.
You are in such a rush to big up AL, but there is no way Freddie was the whole show back then. Four of the guys made Queen what they were.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
Freddie will always be the better vocalist, performer, songwriter, than AL ever has been, and there is something to be said about Freddie's and Queen's legacy still living on after all this time.
snifflese · Member since
To me Queen has always been Freddie centric. The stories seemed to be centered around Freddie. If you listen to what fans say, it would seem that only Freddie wrote the music and Queen would never have been successful w/o Freddie. I have read that far too many times on Queen sites. So, yes, I would say Freddie was always front and center both on and off stage.
I have noticed in the youtubes from back then, it is always Freddie strutting around doing his thing and the other guys are just kind of there in the background. There never seems to be an attempt to include them, which is very different from the interaction between Adam and all the guys on stage.
For many people Queen was Freddie! That is why some folks think Brian and Roger shouldn't go on w/o him. He was irreplaceable in many minds. I think we can include you in that group. That is most definitely my perception that the band existed for Freddie.
snifflese · Member since
Better vocalist is in the ears of the person listening. It depends on the type of voice that one enjoys. Not sure you can say that. I will say that performer and songwriter most definitely is true, but not necessarily vocalist. I guess two out of three is not bad and for some it would be all three, but not for everybody. There are some songs I think one or the other does better since it fits their particular voices better. That would be me just listening and not knowing who was singing them. I would not always say the same person. Just trying to be honest here.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
To me Queen has always been Freddie centric. The stories seemed to be centered around Freddie. If you listen to what fans say, it would seem that only Freddie wrote the music and Queen would never have been successful w/o Freddie. I have read that far too many times on Queen sites. So, yes, I would say Freddie was always front and center both on and off stage.
I have noticed in the youtubes from back then, it is always Freddie strutting around doing his thing and the other guys are just kind of there in the background. There never seems to be an attempt to include them, which is very different from the interaction between Adam and all the guys on stage.
For many people Queen was Freddie! That is why some folks think Brian and Roger shouldn't go on w/o him. He was irreplaceable in many minds. I think we can include you in that group. That is most definitely my perception that the band existed for Freddie.[/QUOTE]
I am a Freddie/Queen fan. I've never noticed many people who feel that Freddie wrote all the music. Would Queen ever happened without Freddie...I doubt it. The way the guys worked together is pretty amazing in my books. Freddie had a big personality, but I don't look at him as hogging the spotlight so to speak. Believe me, I think all four guys mattered.
What group are you including me in? That Queen died with Freddie or that Brian and Roger should have retired? Yes, Freddie is irreplaceable no doubt about it. At least that we agree on ;-).
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
Better vocalist is in the ears of the person listening. It depends on the type of voice that one enjoys. Not sure you can say that. I will say that performer and songwriter most definitely is true, but not necessarily vocalist. I guess two out of three is not bad and for some it would be all three, but not for everybody. There are some songs I think one or the other does better since it fits their particular voices better. That would be me just listening and not knowing who was singing them. I would not always say the same person. Just trying to be honest here.[/QUOTE]
I have no issue saying that I feel Freddie is a better singer, performer than AL. Do I think Freddie's vocals was always perfect, hell no, I hate how he sings POTF and GDML, it is hardly what I'd call his best.
For me, and I've said this before, Freddie emotions while singing, is unlike anything I've heard before or since. It's the emotions in music which captures and keeps my attention.
snifflese · Member since
I included you in the irreplaceable group, Icy!! Even you agree!! That is where he should be for you since I assume he is your fav artist!! I see and hear the emotions in Adam's voice and am amazed how he can just change the level of the sound and the tone of his voice for me to feel it, too. I have always been confused when other people don't find that Adam performs with emotion. The only thing I can think of is that his voice is so effortless and he doesn't strain and make faces (other than the tongue) like so many other people and that makes listeners think he is singing w/o passion. Some singers distort their faces and look like they are going to pop when they emote, so maybe that is it. Adam never looks like that really. To me it is a puzzle! I hear the passion in all his songs.
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]philip storey wrote:[/b]
How's Adam's Opera range,song writing ability as for Brian saying Adams hits all the high notes better than Freddie if he said that I find that an awfull remark by Dr May.Freddie is a ledgnd who will never be forgotton.Mr Lambert soon as Queen call it a day he will fade away.[/QUOTE]
What Brian was meaning is that Adam can sing higher than Freddie night after night in a live situation, he wasn't comparing them as such and not from a recording point of view but he's right in the sense that Adam is vocally trained and knows how to look after his voice so he can sing like that without causing vocal strain where Freddie not being trained used to modulate down very often when singing live.
As for Adam fading away - not a chance, he gets asked to do lots of stuff away from Queen because vocally he's consistent, has great work ethic, is good to work with, professional and well respected. There can be more than one person in the world who's good, we all know Freddie was amazing and will always be a legend but it's 27 years now and it's unfair to think everyone has to live under his shadow forever more.
philip storey · Member since
I actually met Roger when the band were staying at a hotel I was working at filming the Breakthru video at a nearby railway track.He was nice and friendly and we talked about "Fun in Space".I also wrote to Brian in the 90's and received a beautiful photograph with a personel message and signed.But I now feel they forgetting the fans and are a bit up themselves and rather be in with fellow celebs.
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Clarity wrote:[/b]
Vocal Harmony Brian was not approachable at the recent Bafta awards he walked past some Queen fans and blanked them leaving Roger to deal with them. Brian is getting more up himself every year now because he is feeding of Freddie's genius and thinks he deserves the limelight.[/QUOTE]
Read my original post again. I explained that Brian was with his wife and probably didn't want to make her feel like an extra while he played a starring role signing autographs and talking to Queen fans. . .
Also getting to meet idols and getting autographs is not a devine right, people, even rock stars, should be allowed to be who they wish to be. Brian and Roger remain much more willing and approached then Freddie ever was. Don't take that as a criticism of Freddie, but he would usually say a very quick hello and be gone
If as you believe Brian thinks he deserves the limelight why didn't he play on that at the BAFTA red carpet and swan about and over egg the occasion and make himself the centre of attention.
snifflese · Member since
Ok, Icy, the post by Clarity proves my point about Queen fans who think it is ALL about Freddie. Per Clarity, "No one fits Queen other than Freddie because Queen was his creation alone." I am always amazed when die hards say that. I guess they are forgetting Freddie's solo venture, which wasn't all that successful? There was just something about the 4 men together that made it work. Take one of them out of the mix (maybe you could remove John, because somehow he doesn't seem as integral to me), but they would never be the same w/o Brian or Roger. They composed together and worked out songs together and were stellar writers and musicians. I just don't believe it all Freddie's work, but some people do and there are more than one might think. Remarks like this is why I have the perception that the band was basically all about Freddie.
matt z · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
"... You can hop over to the Freddie threads and do all the ass kissing that you like there. It is not needed here on the QAL thread [/QUOTE]
THE IDIOCY! The BLASPHEMY!
It's ALL the "Freddie Section"
He IS and was INSEPARABLE from QUEEN. This is essentially the house that Freddie built. Would've been a Smile forum without it.
#2)
Why, the ENTIRE PREMISE OF THIS THREAD is another VERSUS *COMPARISON*
A *COMPARISON*
if people don't like the chub dude being criticised for his unappealing unRockiness... then DON'T FUCKING BRING IT UP!
It's absolutely nuts.
Cheesus, Man. ....i mean, Good God what the hell r y'all smoking?
