All I can say is that when I grew up listening to Queen and Queen II on vinyl, the latter sounded great while the former sounded like it had been recorded in a garage. The latter sounded like I was in the room with the band, while the former sounded like I was in the next room with the door closed. Maybe the digital age has equalised them somewhat (equally "loud"?). I no longer have a record player and can't compare them any more.
mooghead · Member since
Queen I is like a muddy pond and Queen II is a crystal clear stream...
bucsateflon · Member since
A clean, complete remix for these two albums is impossible
cmi · Member since
^ Why ?
Makka · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]cmi wrote:[/b]
^ Why ?[/QUOTE]
I guess some of the tracks would of been bounced down to a single track. But they are as they are now and should be left alone I guess anyway.
cmi · Member since
If The Beatles have pre-bounced tracks in their vaults, why not Queen...? Also 16-tracks is not a small quantity to make a proper remix, even if some of them are bounced down.
We already have Keep Yourself Alive (stems/instrumental), Liar (remix), Mad The Swine (remix), Seven Seas Of Rhye (stems/instrumental), so it's not a problem to remix these tracks properly nowadays.
Of course maybe there could be a difficulty with 'The March Of The Black Queen' but it's not a BIG problem.
Negative Creep · Member since
As someone mentioned earlier, the biggest problem is the mixes. The tracks just weren't mixed that well. Sonically there will be little wrong with what's on the multitracks, and the right mix engineer would make these tracks sound amazing. Except in QPL land, no quality mix engineer will ever get near Queens' back catalogue or vault because they have chosen to stick with their own bunch of amateurs.
dysan · Member since
The mixes are absolutely fine. That's what was released, that's the product. Personal opinion or taste doesn't make an album bad per se. I enjoy it for things that others may see as faults. Same with Jazz and Hot Space. They are what they are take them or leave them.
Of course that said, I'm the first to find remixes fascinating. C_Matt's HD Queen 2 was exceptionally interesting.
dudeofqueen · Member since
CMI, re:
>so it's not a problem to remix these tracks properly nowadays.
Although you're right, we *could* end up with something that sounds like elephant guns going off and Freddie singing in the bath a-la Hammy '75.
I'd prefer they left the bloody things alone now, given that they're so familiar, and concentrated on getting new projects right.
bucsateflon · Member since
"A clean, complete remix for these two albums is impossible "
"clean" and "complete" were not put in that sentence for nothing
dysan · Member since
I would wager a fair chunk that if they did that and it ticked all the boxes you require, there would be a ton thread saying how bad it is.
IE like everything Queen do these days sadly
aarongtz · Member since
"Mad the Swine" snare sound is very different than the rest of the album and sounds good to me. "The Night Comes Down" drum sound, sounds very crystal clear but I think that specific sound goes well just with that specific song, I don't imagine something like "My Fairy King" with that drum sound.
dysan · Member since
I was thinking of Night Comes Down.. in relation to this debate. It is certainly what could be called 'lo fi' but it really works with the song.
Makka · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]aarongtz wrote:[/b]
"Mad the Swine" snare sound is very different than the rest of the album and sounds good to me. "The Night Comes Down" drum sound, sounds very crystal clear but I think that specific sound goes well just with that specific song, I don't imagine something like "My Fairy King" with that drum sound. [/QUOTE]
Yeah I agree that Mad The Swine has a very different sound to it than the Queen album. Weren't these recorded about the same time?
Ziggy_SD · Member since
I think it was Brian that admitted they were forced to rethink their mixes when he noticed their records didn’t sound good in clubs. I’m gathering this may have been one of the reasons why they dropped Roy Thomas Baker in the late 70s.
I know a lot of people criticise the Mack sound of the early 80s, but I for one thought his fresh take on their overall sound was key to their success in that decade.
I’ve started to have a crack at remixing some of their earlier stuff and it absolutely benefits from modern mixing techniques. Now I’m Here, a track I always preferred live than the album cut, sounds completely different after I tinkered with it.
