John felt uncomfortable doing Queen songs at the Tribute Concert
without Freddie (at around 14:20)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kdCfEhvHEo
Holly2003
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people on streets
Nice interview with George Michael. Gone too soon as well.
mooghead
But he did. So what is your point?
bucsateflon
knowing you will never play with your band to such a place and audience ever again....
Saint Jiub
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
John felt uncomfortable doing Queen songs at the Tribute Concert
without Freddie (at around 14:20)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kdCfEhvHEo[/QUOTE]
..
To clarify, John felt uncomfortable playing Queen songs with other performers instead of Freddie ...
John felt uncomfortable doing Queen songs at the Tribute Concert
without Freddie (at around 14:20)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kdCfEhvHEo[/QUOTE]
..
To clarify, John felt uncomfortable playing Queen songs with other performers instead of Freddie ...
Holly2003
[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]
But he did. So what is your point?[/QUOTE]
It's not my point, it's Brian May's. You can ask him about it in 1993 via this old email address: brian.may@geocities.com
But he did. So what is your point?[/QUOTE]
It's not my point, it's Brian May's. You can ask him about it in 1993 via this old email address: brian.may@geocities.com
dysan
He didn't like playing Wembley without his testicles popping out of his shorts.
fras444
Great interview and another little insight from the very beginning of the "post Freddie" years to suggest John was heading on a downward spiral and shows that John is a little more deep than some people may realize. John Deacon here on Queenzone is like a mythological prophet... Whatever everyone here likes to believe... Be he be "the one who had morals and quit Queen before Brian and Roger ruined Queen's legacy, wanting to retire for a very long time, everything falling perfectly together and Freddie's passing was just the perfect excuse (some say that songs he wrote were a very personal insight to what was going on in his mind.... Break Free... wanting to break free from the band), he just wanted to enjoy the peaceful life, was going to retire anyway regardless of Freddie' passing/not dying, grumpy old fart who gives two fucks for being bothered to pick up the bass or do a interview or two for his most beloved fans..... A potential and more plausible reason... A falling out with Brian during the MIH sessions and not having that....That certain someone.... who use to be there"
The more we get the same pieces/ answers from Brian and Roger when asked about John and with what recently came out during the lead in to the movie regarding "where is John?" from.... All of those people...
All of those people... Those who knew him the deepest from his family, friends, previous roadies and managers and the band members who lived and breathed his presence with all of those months and years on tour and being in studio. It's all there in what we read from THEM!!!! Yet people that only know him from a handful of interviews and from what we see of him on all of those music videos and live shows... We all become experts and love to make up our own fantasy why he is no longer flying the flag for Queen. Who said that they "felt like just a spare wheel" when there was no contact from all four during the 80s...
Depression has many wicked forms and.....
Who knows.......
John Deacon may be playing us all out for fools and loving every moment of it....
As a wise man said.... "who needs you...?"
The more we get the same pieces/ answers from Brian and Roger when asked about John and with what recently came out during the lead in to the movie regarding "where is John?" from.... All of those people...
All of those people... Those who knew him the deepest from his family, friends, previous roadies and managers and the band members who lived and breathed his presence with all of those months and years on tour and being in studio. It's all there in what we read from THEM!!!! Yet people that only know him from a handful of interviews and from what we see of him on all of those music videos and live shows... We all become experts and love to make up our own fantasy why he is no longer flying the flag for Queen. Who said that they "felt like just a spare wheel" when there was no contact from all four during the 80s...
Depression has many wicked forms and.....
Who knows.......
John Deacon may be playing us all out for fools and loving every moment of it....
As a wise man said.... "who needs you...?"
fras444
Regards to Holly2003 and the point Holly makes....
It's just a piece that they found.
Just another piece in the puzzle explaining John's frame of mind from the very beginning of post Freddie, and where his mind was and most likely still is regards to life "for him" in the future of Queen and how he felt with the prospect of doing these songs without Freddie, regardless of it being for Freddie... Shit... Not meaning much then but.... Listening to what Brian said about John... Who know's... with far more insight on how depression works today.... That one sentence Brian said regarding how John felt while rehearsing songs that Freddie sung with other singers... A psychiatrist today would see that as a possible cry for help and that things were not going well emotionally, a potential beginning of a mental breakdown.
John's body language during the one and only time in his whole life were he said anything on stage during the introduction and to introduce Metallica, as well as the first and only time Queen opened a show without Freddie, the three minutes when it was just the three of them, he looked okay, had a smile on his face... Then when Joe Elliot came on... A smile that was on John's face disappeared.... Then again... It was a huge show that had a party/rock star feel to it with so much going on both Roger and Bri feeding of the energy, which just shows how much of a quiet reserved person John was.... Then again... aspergers was thrown around by Queenzoners a couple of years back.... was that an example of a set routine that Freddie, John, Brian and Roger had, the loose randomest stage show nature that the tribute concert was....Was it just to much for John and that he needed structure.... just watching that whole show... interesting to watch John... well... the few snippets we had of John and his last full show.... It's actually quite sad to watch his final moments on the stage he was a little distant.
P.S
I wonder what Slash said to Brian after Tie your mother down??
It's just a piece that they found.
Just another piece in the puzzle explaining John's frame of mind from the very beginning of post Freddie, and where his mind was and most likely still is regards to life "for him" in the future of Queen and how he felt with the prospect of doing these songs without Freddie, regardless of it being for Freddie... Shit... Not meaning much then but.... Listening to what Brian said about John... Who know's... with far more insight on how depression works today.... That one sentence Brian said regarding how John felt while rehearsing songs that Freddie sung with other singers... A psychiatrist today would see that as a possible cry for help and that things were not going well emotionally, a potential beginning of a mental breakdown.
John's body language during the one and only time in his whole life were he said anything on stage during the introduction and to introduce Metallica, as well as the first and only time Queen opened a show without Freddie, the three minutes when it was just the three of them, he looked okay, had a smile on his face... Then when Joe Elliot came on... A smile that was on John's face disappeared.... Then again... It was a huge show that had a party/rock star feel to it with so much going on both Roger and Bri feeding of the energy, which just shows how much of a quiet reserved person John was.... Then again... aspergers was thrown around by Queenzoners a couple of years back.... was that an example of a set routine that Freddie, John, Brian and Roger had, the loose randomest stage show nature that the tribute concert was....Was it just to much for John and that he needed structure.... just watching that whole show... interesting to watch John... well... the few snippets we had of John and his last full show.... It's actually quite sad to watch his final moments on the stage he was a little distant.
P.S
I wonder what Slash said to Brian after Tie your mother down??
dysan
'I wonder what Slash said to Brian after Tie your mother down??'
'Can I borrow your straighteners?'
'Can I borrow your straighteners?'
Holly2003
[QUOTE] [b]dysan wrote:[/b]
'I wonder what Slash said to Brian after Tie your mother down??'
'Can I borrow your straighteners?'
[/QUOTE]
"If we ever do this again, I'll start the solo in the right key."
fras444, thank you. As you say, another piece of the puzzle.
I posted this to show that John's concerns about playing with other lead singers date to much earlier than his eventual retirement from the music business.
'I wonder what Slash said to Brian after Tie your mother down??'
'Can I borrow your straighteners?'
[/QUOTE]
"If we ever do this again, I'll start the solo in the right key."
fras444, thank you. As you say, another piece of the puzzle.
I posted this to show that John's concerns about playing with other lead singers date to much earlier than his eventual retirement from the music business.
FMBMJDRT
A lot I've read about John suggests he was a heavy drinker throughout the 80s (even an article about his trip to Korea on promotion refers to his extensive drinking habits and enjoyment of clubbing), not to mention the magic mushroom / Bali episode in 1984. He also appears to have suffered from depression a long time before Freddies death. Mack said in a German Tv special on queen that his reclusiveness was related to alcohol and anti depressants use over 30 years. Freddies illness (which he would have been forced to keep a secret from his family for a long time ) and death probably made them worse. However none of these problems were going to be cured by simply retiring and refusing to socialise with anyone outside his family
Holly2003
[QUOTE] [b]FMBMJDRT wrote:[/b]
However none of these problems were going to be cured by simply retiring and refusing to socialise with anyone outside his family[/QUOTE]
That's the thing though -- just because he's retired from public life doesn't make him a recluse, unsociable, a hermit etc. He could be, and probably is, living a perfectly normal and happy life, just not in the the public eye.
However none of these problems were going to be cured by simply retiring and refusing to socialise with anyone outside his family[/QUOTE]
That's the thing though -- just because he's retired from public life doesn't make him a recluse, unsociable, a hermit etc. He could be, and probably is, living a perfectly normal and happy life, just not in the the public eye.
Rick
And still he spoke to the audience for the very first time. One of my favourite moments ever. You can see he is struggling but he manages to keep it cool. METALLICA!
FMBMJDRT
I used to think "recluse" was too strong a word but even Peter Hince has confirmed he is "virtually a recluse now". Roger Taylor has said John "doesn't like people" in Mark Blake's "kind of magic" book and whilst I think Roger may have his own agenda, the fact that John's offspring socialise with Brian and Roger but john doesn't suggest they accept B+R's assessment that their dad is "fragile"