Would Freddie have turned to the theatre if he had lived?

Freddie wrote Delilah when he was dying and she was a source of comfort to him ...you can't use that particular song as an example to critique Freddie as a lyricist. Over all, in his career he gave some very well written songs although he admitted lyrics weren't hid strong point. But as a music composer he was a genius.

again...
writing lyrics and writing music are 2 mostly distinct acts

[QUOTE] [b]Ramnes wrote:[/b]

Freddie was incredibly talented as a song writer after all he got Queen in to the big time with those first few singles and Pete Townsend is no where near as talented as Freddie was. Are you for real or what???[/QUOTE]

Considering most of the post-mod British rock bands modeled themselves after The Who in some way, once again you're displaying your ignorance of music history.

Even the guys in Queen have said The Who were a better live band than they were.

No. Queen would have gone for the hundrends of millions by doing world tours. No amount of money would have been enough. They want more.

If Freddie hadn't have died they would have gone on world tour after world tour.

[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]

No. Queen would have gone for the hundrends of millions by doing world tours. No amount of money would have been enough. They want more.

If Freddie hadn't have died they would have gone on world tour after world tour.[/QUOTE]

So musicians going out and doing what they love you mean?

Yeah. Making shit loads of cash.

[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]

spiralstatic, re:

>I wonder if Freddie would have written an opera one day. Compare artists today such as Rufus Wainwright and Neil Hannon who have. Written a full opera, designed the costumes... maybe got someone to add some ballet in there. I can totally imagine Freddie doing this at some point.

From the man that claimed his songs were like Bic razors and then wrote Delilah? He wasn't anywhere near as talented, stylistically or lyrically as Pete Townshend and neither was he influenced by someone like a Kit Lambert to give him an insight in to the process.[/QUOTE]

Well one bonus of writing an opera is you don't usually write lyrics to it. For an opera, you usually take a story that already exists and make a libretto (the words.) . I imagine someone else would have done that for Freddie.

Musically, I think Freddie was a brilliant musician and could have done it. I don't say it would have been the best opera ever - but I can imagine him giving it a go and whether amazing or rubbish, taking on such a challenge. Probably not totally alone. He could work with an orchestrator for example.

Regarding a musical, again, I could potentially imagine him writing one, but not performing in one. He spoke numerous times of how he could never do the same show night after night... and matinees too!? No way! I can imagine it less so than opera myself, but it's all only speculation anyway.

Regarding the discussion of how famous and relevant Queen would be if they were still all alive now... I mean, it's an unfortunate truth, but it is death that makes people into legends most of the time. Very few people transcend that. I just feel how Queen were in the mid-late '80's... I just imagine them having split up anyway... albeit they may have well reunited again a decade later, or by now (but maybe John-less??)

But even if they had continued, I think they'd have never become cool and the main thing is would they ever have written great music again? Innuendo (even The Miracle) musically - they wouldn't have had the same drive to create those things. Rog and Bri have all the money in the world now and Rog has even spoken of how they are creatively past their peak...

It must be a strange thing to know deep down inside for Bri, Rog and John - that the sheer level of your fame and wealth and popularity now is not only in large part down to Freddie, but literally because he is dead. Not that Freddie was Queen at all - it was all of them, but you know - how life is is what it becomes.

"If Freddie lived" parallel universe matter was dealt with here, and it came to a very plausible scenario.
http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1542078/adam-lambert-would-have-fronted-queen-even-if-freddie-was-still-alive.aspx
no theater and opera fluff...

Would he have done Barcelona if his time wasn't limited? He seemed quite happy in his light disco pop malaise until his impending doom raised its head. Same with Bowie - He returned in after a decade in 2013 with the same bland rock / pop he was doing in 2003 - then suddenly switched it up with Blackstar when he knew he was boned. Bless them both. *doffs hat*

Ramnes, re:

>Freddie was incredibly talented as a song writer after all he got Queen in to the big time with those first few singles and Pete Townsend is no where near as talented as Freddie was. Are you for real or what???

You're a fucking idiot.

I'm not going to go in to the full justification of WHY you're wrong, but one very quick look into Townshend's output as a writer and as a multi-instrumentalist and INNOVATOR will tell you all you need to know. The bootleg of Pete's Demos for The Who "The Genuine Scoop" has more material on there than Mercury created in his entire career; this just scratches the surface and doesn't even take into account his solo work.

The comparison with Townshend is totally meaningless and kind of stupid, which is to be expected from a very stupid man.
As for the smart guy who supports it, he forgets that Townshend was great when the target for greatness was lower than today.
You may say that both Townshend and Mercury have pushed that target higher.

If Freddie would have wrote an opera, it would have been in the 90's or 2000's.
So if you are in the mood for imaginary comparisons, then pick up the right musician.

I don't know what's more stunning, the incredible stupidity of aristide1, or the stupendously high opinion he has of himself despite all the evidence to the contrary he constantly provides. This is as close to a textbook example of the Dunning-Kruger effect as you're ever going to get in real life.

I'd just like to lift one quote that's so laughably stupid that it merits a spotlight:

[QUOTE]he forgets that Townshend was great when the target for greatness was lower than today.[/QUOTE]

I don't even want to seriously consider what kind of deranged pseudo-logic you have to apply to reach that conclusion.

I don't like The Who. Musically it's difficult for me to see them in the same bracket as Queen. But of course the stuff I like I do really like - and as musicians and pioneers I respect them greatly. Just my 2 bobs worth.

Maybe except quoting and laughing you should articulate a few words to support your view.
I may only guess you are claiming that Townsend is as great today (and will ever be) as it was in the early 70s.
If you think it's true then why don't you say it, what are you afraid of, looking stupid? Too late.

[QUOTE] [b]dysan wrote:[/b]

I don't like The Who. Musically it's difficult for me to see them in the same bracket as Queen. But of course the stuff I like I do really like - and as musicians and pioneers I respect them greatly. Just my 2 bobs worth.[/QUOTE]

I'm not a great fan either (I don't really *dislike* them), but that's, for me at least, entirely separate from gauging their qualities. Roger Daltrey was a pretty great vocalist, and Townshend's writing and playing were both in a completely different league from most of his contemporaries, not to mention Entwistle and Moon. Likewise, I think Eric Clapton is a huge asshole and I don't like most of his music, but he's an absolute ace guitarist. I don't like Prince's music at all, but he was a true musical genius, a brilliant guitarist and an innovator like few others.

Taste and quality are different things. Les Paul was perhaps the greatest innovator in the world of guitars and studio recording that ever lived, but the man had no taste in music whatsoever.