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Even John's KIDS ask him to take more interest in Queen. I believe he was at a performance of the We Will Rock You musical, and Cameron Deacon did a review of the Bohemian Rhapsody film trailer, so Cameron is justly proud of Queen and his dad's involvement.

Who knows what's going on? Fact is he wants to stay away from it. I would have thought someone with John Deacon's talent would have become a major producer on the dance scene or something but no, he just wants to live his own life which is absolutely fine.

I don't even think he cares about Queen being fronted by Adam Lambert - and I'm pretty sure that Cameron even went to a Q plus AL concert.
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^ Do you guys think that the kids would.. well John's kids... have to sign up to a queen fan page to get pre sales or do they get tickets outright for being "the bosses" (Brian, Roger, John and Andy kids that Freddie never knew off..)
You wonder if the likes of John's kids hang out at uncle Brian's, "Hey uncle Brian!!" "Hook us up to some tickets" here kids ill give you some back pass tickets instead!!!
Wonder what Brian asks when the likes of Cameron come round...
"How's dad . ?" "He's okay,.." "what's he been up to??" "Um not much really.... Oh he got the stingray out!!!"
"What did he jam too??" Does he want to jam with us!!??"
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I wonder if John's kids are aloud to play with his bass guitars
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Cameron refers to "uncle Roger" in his youtube videos and Brian has said he has contact with John's offspring in an interview but that John just wants to be in his own universe...
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"But John Deacon's complete retreat from public life is unparalleled. Even Grace Slick has granted the odd interview. "

But it isn't even just a retreat from public life - he has retreated from even speaking to Brian and Roger. Bitter or disgruntled bandmembers refusing interview requests isn't that odd, and for all we know a confidentiality clause could have been signed after he spoke out of turn re the Robbie Williams thing or perhaps JD just decided it was better to say nothing than anything horrible that could damage the brand. Maybe he decided to out-cunt Brian and be mega awkward.

The pub story is hearsay - and wasn't the story actually that his wife suggested that it was better if people didn't ask him about Queen? Not unheard of, and you can't really read anything into that other than JD didn't want to be hasled in his local which is fair enough.

"Even John's KIDS ask him to take more interest in Queen. I believe he was at a performance of the We Will Rock You musical, and Cameron Deacon did a review of the Bohemian Rhapsody film trailer, so Cameron is justly proud of Queen and his dad's involvement. "

Where have his kids asked him to take more interest? If JD was so fragile that even the mention of Queen made him anxious, it is pretty fucking obvious that his son wouldn't attend anything or speak about the band. It seems quite nice that whatever issue JD has with Brian and Roger, that he hasn't forced that onto his children.
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I do agree that there must be some kind of arrangement that allows for Brian and Roger to continue as Queen without protest from John in return for him and his wife having their privacy protected by Queens PR. Have you noticed when B+R are asked about John it's never more than one question. No journalist pursues the issue. This must be some kind of prearrangement. I even think the Daily mail article about john which appeared in October last year and was inevitable given the film, was done with a degree of cooperation with the paper as it only hinted at issues without spelling them out e.g. "liked a drink", "friendship with lap dancer but apparently no big deal", bali, etcetera. John may have some intermittent MH issue of one kind or another that the media may have been preinformed of by Queens PR and given his overall low profile he probably isn't pursued by them regularly because of it even though he could be of interest to them because of his knowledge of Freddie. I do however think the constant references to what happened in Munich in the 1980s over the last few years, including in this month's Mojo magazine do implicate John somehow and perhaps his current reclusive nature.
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A Real Rock Mystery
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Not sure who is more of an recluse... John Deacon or Syd Barrett
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John Deacon conundrum is starting to rival Freddie's HIV infection is terms of pure gossip
Fuckers
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Like I say.. all this will disappear once the newbies have seen Rocketman and they move on to discussing Sir Elton's gayness on EltonZone.
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^is there an Elton John forum!!! OMG why didn't anyone tell me there was a forum outside queen....
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That is a big point... rocketman.... does it have that same aoura that Boh Rhap has.....

Although Elton (a one man band) who travels the length and the width of the world selling out huge gigs and is still writing music so you can't truly say he's a "cover band" or purely living off strictly old songs he wrote.. Well be does, but you guys know what I mean...

Then you have Queen...

Queen (-2+1 or Queen 1/2) Living off some if the world's biggest songs... still touring still selling out gigs but not writing any music..... Like all through their life where you can't pigeon hole them in all aspects of music... This is a weird beast...

Rocketman a lead singer who's still very much alive vs Queen... a band who truly captured the generation and generations after. A band who connected, through music and themes touched and breaking boundarys with how a song can be presented to the audience and a band that delt with all the highs and lows, romance separation and a potential life ending illness/death... (all the key ingredients to a "realitly/soap/drama/comedy" movie...)

As much as rocketman is good.... I somehow don't think it will reach the same heights as a movie that delt with an immortal soul becoming mortal....

But yeah this movie probaly will take 'x amount' of "fans" from queen but will it still have that grabbing power to, well put it this way, does Eltons music have that power/delicate/connecting pull like Queens music does, Does Eltons yellow brick road, tiny dancer, lion king, candle in the...., Saturday nights.... stack up/age with time (2010/20s kids) vs Queens... We will rock/champions, Boh Rhap, fat bottom girls, your my best friend, hammer to fall....

HELL......

Queens entire discography esp deep cuts like...
doin alright, liar, Ogre battle, Spread your wings.... would have more appeal and pull for the next gen fans than Eltons entire discography would... Both musically and lyrically
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BTW dysan and all above.....
This topic and some on John of late, have been some of the best/most in-depth analysis duscussion theorizing of John's life and trying to understand just what exactly is going on... If it has... Has anything to do with where it is all pointing to... (the ONE reason why John has called time 100% on Queen...) it would be quite scary to live his world at the moment....
But yeah. For the first time in ages, has the spotlight been so much on John, it is interesting and fascinating that there is still one other member of Queen that, although act's as if he's not on this planet.... is still very much alive and is just as important/key foundation that made Queen QUEEN... Who will always be remembered as "Just the Quiet Bassist".... that wrote their.... and.... the world's biggest anthem ....( John Deacon is like the Asiatic lion!!!!..
Everyone knows about the African lion but there is hardly/barely ever any mention in many docos that.... there is another species of lion... The plight of the painfully rare 250 Asiatic lion in India.. Who are barely holding on to the thread of life, whose habitats are entirely constricted and surrounded by urban, no chance to grow and expand out.... One dieses and that's it.... NO more Asiatic lions...)
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I agree with above post about the in depth discussions about John going on these days (not sure about the lion stuff!). I think we have the millennials to thank for digging loads of archive footage and snippets of John post borhap film that have helped flesh him out. Even all the gifs of him on TV and on stage are very telling.
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^ have a joint bro go watch a doco on lions... see if you see Asiatic lions mentioned.... then Google a general Queen doco or a lates interview regarding brian and roger and see if you get a mention about Decay..... Then a little light boulb withh flick on in your head... Asiatic lions John Deacon.... I get it now hahaha then put on some Pink Floyd wish you were here album and enjoy the experince