Amidds, yep I totally didn't get what they were doing with that film.Parts of it were laughable.It portrayed Freddie's life only making sense when he was in the arms of a woman and he went down hill after leaving her.Which isn't true .I dont know much but I will tell you those times he spent with her lying to her were probably some of the most depressing times in his life.When a person is actually able to break free and be themselves it's like a weight lifted off them.His music probably helped him in these hard times keeping busy.Society thinks they make the rules who is good and who is evil.Society doesnt like different they dont like change.Society wants to put everyone in this little box and teach them what is proper and not proper.I say any human being should be free to love whoever they want..They can be with a man or woman 50 years as far as I'm concerned and if they want something different in10 fine with me as long as that makes them happy.
Hey ?? All! my name is Teresa.
Thor- I’m new here but I wanted to thank both you and Lee for sharing your experiences with the fans. I’m a huge Freddie Mercury fan from Long Island, Nassau County, New York. I was brought up in Garden City, New York, I believe just one town over from your early days( Uniondale, if I’m not mistaken) Your stories about Jones Beach, the city ect... hit home. I was curious if you ever did a midnight show at the mini cinema back in the day, of course concerts at the Nassau Coliseum , shopping at Roosevelt Field Mall ect.. So looking forward to your book....
Hello Teresa and welcome. Roosevelt Field Mall....I used to work there at the B. Dalton Bookstore...one of my favorite part-time jobs before I started teaching. I never saw a concert at the Coliseum, but I did see Dan Fogelberg at the Westbury Music Fair. Super show!
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Lsgp. I also thank you again for that documentary. As we have talked about Rose’s insight and after watching it again. It stood out to me that she said she had also gone to boarding school and they talked about their experiences together. Did that strike anyone else? Since sounded like he didn’t do that too much.
It was nice tho hear he had someone to talk with and about it. And having Peter there, who also understood.
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You are SO welcome! and everyone else too!
Morning , rainbow if you scroll back a few pages to the blog I shared of Peter's tour of Kensington recently , he does confirm that Mary was able to inf!hence some of Freddie's decisions and he said 'to the outside world Mary was the greiving widow , whilst inside Jim was in bits , the true widow is what I assumed he meant.
Peter did also say in his second book that Mary got more demanding when Barbara was in his !ife. Although we know she wasn't that good for him , Peter did say it was a healthier friendship than Mary as it came free of guult.
Furthermore Mary herself said it felt like they had said their vows through sickness and health.I'd say it was c!ear
d she couldn't move on.
Piers wasn't able to live in Freddie's shadow. No man could match Freddie which is understandable.
I'd say she like!y found it hard seeing Freddie have relationships.
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Freddie being Freddie also said in an interview that no-one compares to barbara. He was very contraditive. I think Mary was the sensible person in his life and Barbara the fun one . He said himself he liked fun bubbly women and that Mary was quiet .
Doughnut, do you know when Piers left Mary? I just read Jim Hutton's book Mercury and Me, and he said that when Freddie died, Mary and Piers were preparing to move in to Garden Lodge with their son Richard. I'm curious to know why he'd break up with her AFTER Freddie had died, if he felt Freddie was competition.
I think you're right about Mary being the sensible one. Freddie said he "referred" to her quite a bit. He sought her counsel on issues partly because she knew him so well, and partly because she was sensible and trustworthy. Jim said that towards the end Freddie distanced himself from Barbara and Peter Straker and his other life-is-a-party type friends, because he was no longer in the mood to party. Since Mary was not the party animal type, she remained in his inner circle to the very end.
Hi Rainbow!! Welcome back! Glad you got to make a vacation out of it!!!! I’m still reeling from the concert. Replies to your post:
Thor and Lee...looking forward to any sneak preview that may be coming...maybe even a glimpse of the cover! :)
I recently heard several 70's songs on the radio that I loved singing to as a teen...on my parent's 8-track tape player! There might not be too many people here who remember using those.
——- oh yes! My parents had an 8-track player too! I remember those tapes well. Haha.
Love hearing everyone's experiences at the Queen + AL shows. JB050....I, too, was very moved when Freddie came on the big screen...it truly was emotional and powerful like you said. I love a recent pic, taken at the MSG show, with Brian wearing a Freddie tee-shirt.
——-I love that pic and shirt too. Would be great to get one. Wonder if it is one of s kind? Very touching that he wore that. And at Madison Square Garden.
Jo T...I'm also curious if you noticed any difference between the two shows. I have seen pictures of Brian wearing the mask and cyborg suit, but he did not wear that for the show I saw.
—-/he did wear it in Chicago. I gather so far a few of the changes was playing somebody to live before In Lap Of...and moving Show Must... to first in encore which was really powerful, I thought, to start just after the Ayo.
I am wondering if it was due to being so hot on stage...even Adam commented on how hot it was.
——Wow! Really?
young folks who now love Queen music and listen to it all the time because of the movie...
—— I agree ! Am so glad that this is being “brought back” for the generations.
I don't know when piers and mary ended their relationship . When I say he felt he was living in Freddie's shadow , I say this as this is what Mary said . I'm not sure if he was jea!ous , I think there was probably much more to it than that and I'd say Mary herself would agree.
I'm her own words she said she felt she had lost her eternal love and it should have been her to go first . I'd say that's quite a statement which gives us a clue piers and others had to fight for her affections.
Regarding rosemary , she has confirmed that Freddie was open with her and often lusted after men which is what the nail in the coffin was in the end .
I'm guessing Freddie perhaps did what many did back then and that's to try and live a heterosexual life . David Evans talks about this in his own book .
Freddie went into his relationship with Mary knowing he was gay and his urge to be with men was in the end stronger . He had told David minns that before him he had been with men whilst away on tour and with a boy at St Peter's .
Freddie wanted to cling onto rosemary but she did the best thing and took herself away for her own sanity . Mary didn't do this but as Peter says , Freddie clearly felt very guilty with how he had hurt Mary .
I'm rambling now lol
Dc,I think piers left her when she was pregnant with her second baby.She was supposedly spending alot of time with Freddie taking care of him.I dont think she was more like just spending time with him at his request possibly barking orders or making sure everything was going smoothly that was her job I guess.I dont think he was in her life after Freddie's death I do believe he might of been jealious of Freddie .Wouldn't anyone when their wife or mother of their children spends more time with another man than she does her own.i understand close bond and friendship but I dont believe Freddie was the type of person that would want her to neglect her own relationship.She did that on her own if she did.
Doughnut, I wasn't answering for you This subject intrigues me.You and I have alot of the same view points on this subject.I think Rose did the right thing for herself.It's to bad she doesn't feel comfortable talking about the past.It would help so much with all this Freddie loved Women too because he was with Mary drama.You know me I spit things out and sometimes I'm rough around the edges but I get my point across eventually.I'm gonna say it's so damaging to be trapped and in love with a man that can't reciprocate the same affection.Maybe deep down Mary was angry with him because she felt since he had relations with her before he could just turn things off and pick her back up.It doesn't work that way.If it did I do think he cared for her and he would have.
Amidds- that’s cool that you will see if you can get tickets I definitely felt transported.
Did you get the book?
Really nice of you to think of us and offer copies. And nice checking it out to make sure ok.
I have a few weeks on air for mine.
Hope everyone is having a good day.
“On air” Haha. Scratch those words. :-)))
JB, u have a radio show? How cool! ;) I will get my book on my way back in town Wed, can’t wait! How sad does that sound? I’m on vacation!
Regarding Piers and Mary...I remember reading somewhere, I believe Peters blog, that after Piers and Mary split up, Piers went to live with one of Peters friends. Not in a good place to verify that info right now but I know it was one of Mary’s exes. I just believe that he couldn’t have been too upset with “living in Freddie’s shadow” if he could still remain in close proximity to that circle of people.