However Freddie is the only one who could not and clearly still cannot be replaced...so, no, I am not totally idiotic. And thanks for the warm welcome to the site!
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Yeah, well depends how deep you go when listening to their music.
You definitely are somewhere in "shallow waters" at a superficial level.
A more musically inclined person goes beyond the vocalists performance and lyrics.
Holly2003 · Member since
Brian and Roger were indeed the originals -- in a band that was unoriginal and which failed. From the ashes of that failure, Fred created Queen, not Smile part 2. The closest they came to Smile part 2 was their debut album, which failed. Fred was very clearly more than 1/4 of Queen. He wrote 10 out of the 17 songs on Queens Greatest Hits, the UK's best selling album. Roger has no songs on that album Deacon only 2. In short, without Fred inventing Queen's name, logo, and image, directing how they should present themselves onstage, and writing virtually all their greatest hits in that early critical period, including the most streamed song of the twentieth century, Bo Rap (think about that for a bit, along with all the other achievements and accolades that song has garnered) Smile 2 would have been as unsuccessful as Smile was.
fras444 · Member since
GH yes when money and hits was what the Queen machine was built on...
But to be honest... Rogers songs or lack of songs on GH were far superior for me than a good hand full of songs that were on the GH album.... Brian's Father to son was far superior than most of those songs John's You and I was for me a better song than You're my best friend.... QI wasn't a failure in a sense that it gave Queen and impressive one two punch for an heavy hitting live show, son and daughter was pure heavy blues that showcased Brian's guitar. Rogers mowtown rock was almost pure thrash 'live' even doin alright was a great masterpiece of slow and vigourus balance...
Freddie could have been in any other band he could have been a front man for any other band but... How did Freddies music sound when he tried getting a guitarist to sound like Brian..
Roger gave Bo Rhap and alot of Freddies songs that key falsetto range that would never sound the same and of course his drumming was key to the Queen percussion sound...
John Deacons ability to write pop songs and along with that beautiful melodic walking bass line he was a huge key in amoung Freddies piano locking into Rogers drum and also that rhythm sound that gave Brian's guitar some strength where a rhythm guitarist would have been needed in any other band and Brian well that guitar solo in Boh Rhap says itself...
How many guitarist could have interpreted what Freddie wanted through piano... let alone the fact that the red special and John's amp was key to queens sound...
mariah carey · Member since
Freddie might have been the most important member, but it was 4 of them that made the magic happen. You can see it in their solo efforts - none of them are that great, except for Barcelona maybe, but it was a collaborative work.
Holly2003 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]mariah carey wrote:[/b]
Freddie was might have been the most important member, but it was 4 of them that made the magic happen. You can see it in their solo efforts - none of them are that great, except for Barcelona maybe, but it was a collaborative work.[/QUOTE]
Does that mean there is no magic in Queen songs that all 4 didn't work on, such as Is this the world we created?
But I take your point in a general sense. I think it would be more accurate to say Queen are a classic example of a band collectively being bigger than the sum of their parts. But that doesn't mean each contributed equally and it doesn't mean Fred was just 1/4 of Queen.
Stick · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Boomerchick wrote:[/b]
I'm not slagging Briand and Roger. They're both outstanding at what they do but if Freddie was only 1/4 of Queen then they should be half as good right now as they were with him and they simply are not. They're just trying to recreate the magic they used to have....[/QUOTE]
Hahaha 4 humans working together in a band is not a simple maths equation. Queen the bad was more than just the sum of its parts.
bucsateflon · Member since
Isn't a bit ridiculous how new comers to Queen are trying to challenge what was already established on the matter by much more educated people? Considering this Queen band matter is not a continuing evolving science, newbies, squeakers and snowflakes have absolutely nothing new or revelatory to add on. It is all settled, debating on the matter is futile.
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]bucsateflon wrote:[/b]
Isn't a bit ridiculous how new comers to Queen are trying to challenge what was already established on the matter by much more educated people? Considering this Queen band matter is not a continuing evolving science, newbies, squeakers and snowflakes have absolutely nothing new or revelatory to add on. It is all settled, debating on the matter is futile.
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If they only bothered to do some real research it might help but they spout nonsense with just superficial knowledge at best.
Boomerchick · Member since
"Superficial knowledge!!?" I don't think so. "Trying to challenge what was already established.... by more educated people!!??" Hardly. The whole recent upsurge in Queen mania was generated by the Live Aid recreation in the movie, i.e. Freddie's performance. Get real.
Stick · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
If they only bothered to do some real research it might help but they spout nonsense with just superficial knowledge at best.
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Welcome to the modern times. No rock and roll, only idiocracy.
Stick · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Boomerchick wrote:[/b]
"Superficial knowledge!!?" I don't think so. "Trying to challenge what was already established.... by more educated people!!??" Hardly. The whole recent upsurge in Queen mania was generated by the Live Aid recreation in the movie, i.e. Freddie's performance. Get real.[/QUOTE]
You're quite full of yourself while giving a very superficial example in the same post. Well done. Might I guess you are still in puberty?
Rich Tea · Member since
Why is it whenever I come on here is it that all I see is petty squabbles please peoples respect each others views/opinions and express yours then move on...……….For what its worth on the actual topic If John decided he wanted to re-join the band full time or just wanted to play bass on say AOBTD at the Wembley Stadium show next July I would respect him for it.....Like a lot of us of course it would be awesome to see John back where he belongs but unfortunately for reasons that are private to him that is the place he least wants to be....So we should respect his wishes and let him enjoy his retirement in complete privacy....
Boomerchick · Member since
I agree. And I am disappointed at the attitude of some on this forum. It's supposed to be for discussion not insulting participants.
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Boomerchick wrote:[/b]
I agree. And I am disappointed at the attitude of some on this forum. It's supposed to be for discussion not insulting participants.[/QUOTE]
But you see nothing wrong with insulting the two active members of the band, Freddie WAS Queen (reducing the rest to a backing band) calling Brian a pompous ass and finally in his dotage and Roger is "a drummer" nuff said. So that's all he is?
There's intelligent informed discussion and then there's flinging baseless insults with no actual explanation of how you come to those conclusions.
I'm really surprised you expected a warm welcome to a QUEEN fan site where your early posts are nothing but insults to half the band.
