Gosh, Stick, what on Earth are you rambling about? Sales means popular, it's as simple as that.[/QUOTE]
Well, as you can read in my previous post I don't necessarily think that popularity is the exact same as sales. They contribute to it but there is more to a band being popular among people than current new sales. Revitalized interest from people who already own the music, interest among people who dont buy the albums but still like the music a lot when heard through other sources etc. Popularity entails more in my opinion than just new records sold and that's why I think the concept is hard to really measure. Does that clarify the "ramblings"?
Golden Salmon · Member since
I love that Queen gains popularity with the years. Not only it increases the chances of new releases containing new material (as much as we may complain, it's always better than nothing), but it's just nice that more and more people know about the band and enjoy the music.
stevelondon20 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
It's probably the hair. Brian went to his natural gray and then made a cyborg prop mask with the production crew.
All the difference in the world
Truly hard to believe ANOTHER WORLD was 1998 ....21 fucking years ago!
Would be wonderful if he incorporated that CYBORG riff in his solo bit[/QUOTE]
Another World... what an album that was mate!
bucsateflon · Member since
lol
mooghead · Member since
What is Another World?
stevelondon20 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]
What is Another World?[/QUOTE]
Haha you've gotta be kidding Moog!
k-m · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Stick wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]k-m wrote:[/b]
Gosh, Stick, what on Earth are you rambling about? Sales means popular, it's as simple as that.[/QUOTE]
Well, as you can read in my previous post I don't necessarily think that popularity is the exact same as sales. They contribute to it but there is more to a band being popular among people than current new sales. Revitalized interest from people who already own the music, interest among people who dont buy the albums but still like the music a lot when heard through other sources etc. Popularity entails more in my opinion than just new records sold and that's why I think the concept is hard to really measure. Does that clarify the "ramblings"? [/QUOTE]
Well, yes, it actually does, sounds much clearer now and to some extent I agree. Sales are a good indicator of popularity in these areas though. Someone wrote above that the film made Queen the biggest band on the planet now and not sure if I could agree with it. Yes, the tickets sell great, but so they do for Fleetwood Mac or The Cure, yet none of these bands is so relevant any more. They don't record anything new, so there isn't much discussion around these acts, like you can hear about the younger ones. So, if that's what you had in mind, then yes, I think it makes sense.
Metropolis · Member since
Mooghead Another World is one of Brian May's solo albums.
7Innuendo7 · Member since
Even Man in the Shadows had an uptick in sales after the movie came out
Michael Allred · Member since
Jim Beach was thinking long term.
All the ways Queen kept themselves in the public consciousness that fans HATED (reality shows and competitions, commercials, movies, the musical, compilation albums) allowed the band to survive all these years and the movie finally put them over the top.
The tours with Rodgers and now Lambert have helped cement the whole thing.
I credit Jim Beach.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Michael Allred wrote:[/b]
Jim Beach was thinking long term.
All the ways Queen kept themselves in the public consciousness that fans HATED (reality shows and competitions, commercials, movies, the musical, compilation albums) allowed the band to survive all these years and the movie finally put them over the top.
The tours with Rodgers and now Lambert have helped cement the whole thing.
I credit Jim Beach.[/QUOTE]
Bingo.
They are everywhere in popular culture now. Countless kids are devouring the back catalog now - not just the greatest hits albums.
QPL played the long game for the last 20 years, and it has finally paid off.
EDWOOD · Member since
So with all this success and tsunami of profit and money coming into QPL, will they finally put out the bookend projects that were mentioned about since the mid-late 1990s?!
bucsateflon · Member since
yes, but in the course of decades to come
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Michael Allred wrote:[/b]
Jim Beach was thinking long term.
All the ways Queen kept themselves in the public consciousness that fans HATED (reality shows and competitions, commercials, movies, the musical, compilation albums) allowed the band to survive all these years and the movie finally put them over the top.
The tours with Rodgers and now Lambert have helped cement the whole thing.
I credit Jim Beach.[/QUOTE]
Bingo.
They are everywhere in popular culture now. Countless kids are devouring the back catalog now - not just the greatest hits albums.
QPL played the long game for the last 20 years, and it has finally paid off.
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I think you're seeing a long-term strategy that was never really there - you can connect the dots after the fact, but I seriously doubt that, say, the 5ive-collaboration was meant as anything more long-term than "we might get a hit this year". Now, with Queen being on top, it might all look like a grand, long-term plan coming to fruition, but I find it much more likely that the examples cited were all intended to have short-term benefits, and the fortuitous long-term outcome that happened to occur many years later was simply a matter of luck.
This kind of thing occurs in historiography all the time, and we have a word for it: "teleology", the idea that phenomena arise because of the purpose they serve, rather than arising from underlying, possibly less visible, causes.
For anything that is happening in the present, you can draw a continuous string of events, causes if you will, leading up to it, but it would be a mistake to assume that all those events could only have led to the present outcome, or were even meant to produce that outcome. It's easy, perhaps even natural, to look at history that way, but it is deceptive.
