"Are you seriously suggesting the drums on the original master have any punch to them?!
My only criticism of Ludwing's remastering, as that the mastering style isn't uniform across the catalogue. Queen II is still mastered pretty quietly, with the dynamics barely changed yet we then get to Innuendo and it is mastered really loud, to the point of so called brickwalling. "
It is quite easy to hear that the snare sound on the linked video (the sound comes from the original 1991 master) has a snare drum much more "in your face" where as Ludwigs master has somehow tamed the whole lower mid area, and thus it has lost A LOT of low end punch from the snare drum especially. Im still not sure what version they used for that video I linked in my previous post, but it really has the snare much louder. Bob Ludwigs version have the drum space and reverb much louder and I think this stems from using a lot of multiband compression and some widening tricks.
Golden Salmon · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]cmi wrote:[/b]
Only remix will breathe a new life into this excellent album. Listen to Headlong and Ride The Wild Wind from Bonus EP 2011 to hear the difference.[/QUOTE]
I cannot explain why, but it is way too obvious that newly sourced tracks for the 2011 bonus discs sound incredible while the remastered album tracks do not sound all that different at all compared to the old CDs.
It's like they never went back to the actual multitracks or anything. They simply took stereo masters and did little to them.
reesefallon · Member since
cmsdrums · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Golden Salmon wrote:[/b]
I cannot explain why, but it is way too obvious that newly sourced tracks for the 2011 bonus discs sound incredible while the remastered album tracks do not sound all that different at all compared to the old CDs.
It's like they never went back to the actual multitracks or anything. They simply took stereo masters and did little to them.[/QUOTE]
They DIDN’T go back to the actual multitracks, that’s why! The 2011 remasters are exactly that - “remasters”...they are NOT remixes from multitrack but a revisit of the stereo master mix where (in simple terms) they make changes to certain frequencies, headroom volume etc. That’s it - so what were you expecting exactly?
The Fairy King · Member since
Most Queen videos have a different mix than the album or single versions.
cmsdrums · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
Most Queen videos have a different mix than the album or single versions. [/QUOTE]
Really? I wasn't aware of this - can you provide some examples?
Dim · Member since
The videos in most cases were mono and 40khz. The bonus of early versions demo etc sound flat.
Bod did great job with Queen catalogue, Queen were never a audiophile band.
dudeofqueen · Member since
Dim, re:
>Queen were never a audiophile band.
The hunk of utter SHIT that is Mustapha lays testament to that.
The Fairy King · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
Most Queen videos have a different mix than the album or single versions. [/QUOTE]
Really? I wasn't aware of this - can you provide some examples?[/QUOTE]
Sarcasm?
cmsdrums · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
Most Queen videos have a different mix than the album or single versions. [/QUOTE]
Really? I wasn't aware of this - can you provide some examples?[/QUOTE]
Sarcasm?[/QUOTE]
No - genuinely interested.....I must admit that I haven't watched many of their videos since the Video Hits DVDs were released, so I wasn't aware of any others that had been remixed in addition to the 5.1 mixes that are on those. (I must admit I'm surprised at this though)
dudeofqueen · Member since
>The Fairy King wrote:
>Most Queen videos have a different mix than the album or single versions.
The only example that springs immediately to mind id "Headlong".
cmsdrums · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]
>The Fairy King wrote:
>Most Queen videos have a different mix than the album or single versions.
The only example that springs immediately to mind id "Headlong".[/QUOTE]
And even then, is that actually just a different 'edit' rather than different 'mix'?
dysan · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]
Dim, re:
>Queen were never a audiophile band.
The hunk of utter SHIT that is Mustapha lays testament to that.[/QUOTE]
Explain
dudeofqueen · Member since
dysan, re:
>Explain
Why? If you don't know, you can't heard it. Suggest you don't bother as you'll never recover from such a bad aural experience......
Stick · Member since
@dudeofqueen Thats a very childish response. Also, what's an opinion worth if you can't explain or support it with arguments. As I said, it's the mentality of a child.
