@ Tartlet
Of course, I forgot those interviews, how I'm could be so stupid. LOL
All these interviews in which Freddie talks about Mary are interviews done to the public to create an appropriate picture.
Also, that was before he started a serious relationship with Jim. Find me at least one of his interviews where he talks about her in that way after they started relationship.
On the other hand, the interviews in which he mentions that he is finally happy and has the partner he has always wanted speaks much more. Of course he doesn't mention Jim's name, imagine what a scandal it would be if he openly said he had a man as a partner in those years.
Of course his family knew he was gay, of course they knew what Jim meant to him. That's why they and managers needed Mary so much in public.
Why do you think he hired him as a home gardener? Because of caprice? Of course not, he hired him because he knew that after a Paul Prenter's story in the tabloid it would be difficult to get a new job as a barber. Paul named Jim Hatton as Freddie's lover. Jim probably lost that job because of that.
Jim meant a lot to Freddie despite some fans don't like it.
All right, let it be that Mary was the love of his life but Jim was Freddie's greatest love of all.
Invisible Woman I don’t think Jim was his greatest love of all. He was a sincere love and neither Mary was his greatest love in the traditional sense. But she was his greatest love in terms of being a best friend and soulmate.
He released a statement just before he died saying he had AIDS, that’s akin to saying he was gay in those times. He said himself he didn’t care what happens after he dies (unless he was made to be boring lol). He could have left him a bit more than his cook. I think people see what they want to see. I have nothing against Jim (other than him writing a tell all book), but Mary never ratted on him, just sayin’.
[QUOTE] [b]Tartlet wrote:[/b]
Invisible Woman I don’t think Jim was his greatest love of all. He was a sincere love and neither Mary was his greatest love in the traditional sense. But she was his greatest love in terms of being a best friend and soulmate.
He released a statement just before he died saying he had AIDS, that’s akin to saying he was gay in those times. He said himself he didn’t care what happens after he dies (unless he was made to be boring lol). He could have left him a bit more than his cook. I think people see what they want to see. I have nothing against Jim (other than him writing a tell all book), but Mary never ratted on him, just sayin’.[/QUOTE]
What's wrong with writing a book? A book by a person who actually knew Freddie is better than trashy tabloid stories. Also, Mary did lots of paid interviews where she talked about their sex life and stuff, but somehow nobody sees anything wrong with that.
Mariah Carey what’s Wrong with writing a book? Freddie valued his privacy beyond anything else. And he didn’t want to hurt his parents. But Jim told us whether he liked to be active or passive ! He told us his last words were Pipi ! Do you think that’s somebody who wrote a book to grieve? I would have believed that a bit more of he had donated all the proceeds to an AIDS foundation or a cat’s shelter. And even then it would still have been distasteful.
[QUOTE] [b]Tartlet wrote:[/b]
Mariah Carey what’s Wrong with writing a book? Freddie valued his privacy beyond anything else. And he didn’t want to hurt his parents. But Jim told us whether he liked to be active or passive ! He told us his last words were Pipi ! Do you think that’s somebody who wrote a book to grieve? I would have believed that a bit more of he had donated all the proceeds to an AIDS foundation or a cat’s shelter. And even then it would still have been distasteful.[/QUOTE]
Oh God, Jim didn't tell us anything new, if you think that Freddie would've been mad about that... lmao.
Also, the book's proceeds go to a hospital which cared for him
I agree that Mary was his soulmate and most trusted best friend. How much more trust can someone have when they give you their ashes and you're the only one that knows the whereabouts? Not even Freddie's parents nor his sister knows where the ashes are. And neither did his boyfriend/husband, Jim. Trust is the foundation of a solid relationship. This is so telling about where Mary stood in Freddie's life.
I also don't have anything against Jim, besides the tell-all book. From interviews I saw, he seems like a nice person but I don't think he was his greatest love. Jim didn't even know where Freddie's ashes were buried. As a boyfriend, let alone husband, wouldn't you think he would at least know where the ashes were?
Mariah Carey Jim didn’t tell us anything new ? He didn’t describe how Freddie cried in his weakest moments among other things. You really think Freddie wouldn’t have minded ? Hmm nothing I can say to you then.
The Jim Hutton book proceeds went into his pocket.
[QUOTE] [b]Tartlet wrote:[/b]
Mariah Carey Jim didn’t tell us anything new ? He didn’t describe how Freddie cried in his weakest moments among other things. You really think Freddie wouldn’t have minded ? Hmm nothing I can say to you then.
The Jim Hutton book proceeds went into his pocket.[/QUOTE]
what's wrong with showing a human side of Freddie Mercury? But it's always about what Jim said. I don't see people so worked up over Mary saying that they didn't have sex for the last 2 years of their relationship or that it took her 3 years to fall in love with him, or Rosemary Pearson saying that Freddie started crying about his need of man in the middle of sex
@ Tartlet Exactly, everyone sees what they want to see. So you see what you want to see.
Love of my life wasn't wrote for Mary, thats another created story for public.
For the public and his family men of Garden Lodge were only employees and so it should have stayed. It's obvious that they only could mentioned in the will as employees, not as his partner and friends. That is the reason why they recived same amount. But Jim was his partner and Joe and Peter was his friends. That's why his will can't proves nothing.
If Jim and Peter didn't wrote their books, the public would not have known the truth. Mary would forever remain his widow .But she wasn't it at all. She had two children with her partner but she continued to play her role "love of his life" right now after Freddie's death. She was pregnant at that moment. Thats hypocritical.
Those books put a shadow on that long-created image for the public. That's why many hates Jim, he ruined perfect picture of Mary.
mariah carey, There is no documentation that the proceeds from Jim's book went to a hospital and I haven't read anything about it from my research. From what I understand, the proceeds went to Jim.
What Mary said is mild and a nothing burger in comparison. She didn't describe intimate moments like Jim did in his book. What kind of husband would write about his spouse in a book detailing their sex positions for public knowledge?
[QUOTE] [b]HelloDelilah wrote:[/b]
mariah carey, There is no documentation that the proceeds from Jim's book went to a hospital and I haven't read anything about it from my research. From what I understand, the proceeds went to Jim.
What Mary said is mild and a nothing burger in comparison. She didn't describe intimate moments like Jim did in his book. What kind of husband would write about his spouse in a book detailing their sex positions for public knowledge?[/QUOTE]
There were like two lines about sex in his book, nothing detailed lmao
Invisible Woman Nobody knows who love of my life was written to at the moment it was written, some say it was about David Minns. But him leaving the rights to that song to Mary shoes that ultimately that song is written about her whether at conception or in hindsight at his demise.
Also, I don’t think he would have given a shit about how people perceived or read his will. And ultimately if she wasn’t the love of his life why didn’t he leave everything to his parents/sister.
And as Hello Delilah said, what about his ashes? If everything else is mere possessions, the ashes are the ultimate proof. Not even his mum knows where they are. Mic drop.
Note: I just wanted to say that we all love and care about Freddie and his legacy and even this debate shows how passionate we all are about it. And I am glad for the discussion.
@ Tartlet You really don't get the point? Of course he didn't care what anyone would say about his will. But others did care. He was an institution, his name brought money to many people. And so it is today. If not, would some people still make big money today from the movie that also paints a picture of Mary as the love of Freddie's life?
It's all a big bussines. He probably did what he had to do. Or he was let down by people he trusted. Maybe both things. That's how I look at it and I won't change my opinion about it.
Invisible Woman whatever the business side of things may or may not be, his ashes (along with GL and his cats) went to who his really trusted and loved. And nobody can argue with that or have different opinions about it.
Invisible Woman whatever the business side of things may or may not be, his ashes (along with GL and his cats) went to who his really trusted and loved. And nobody can argue with that or have different opinions about it.
