The great Peter Hince is spot on with his thoughts on Queen+ Adam Lambert. He does talk a lot of sense and he should know as he toured with Queen for many many years with Fred.
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Queenman!!
Yep it's cabaret meets West End Theatre.... playing the same role each night with same jokes, stories and all focus on makeup, clothes, high heels and using the microphone to simulate a hard cock. That's Adam in a 'nut' shell.
flash00.
I have been thinking the same thing for a long time with regards to Brian Roger and Adam, AL dresses exactly the same as the cast from We Will Rock You musical, he is not camp he is more like a full on drag queen in a tribute band, is that why he never works the whole stage in case he trips in his high heel shoes or is it swollen ankles?, what really annoys me is how Brian kisses AL's backside worshiping him but cringed and whinged about any slightest camp leaning of any of Freddie's music i.e Hot Space album.
Someone can correct me if I am wrong but i have not seen one interview from Brian paying any form of a compliment towards Freddie i.e his voice or music or calling Freddie a gift from god or anything really while Freddie was alive. But now he seems perfectly fine with the band being extremely gay like it's a cabaret show and not a rock concert I think Adam knows Brian and Roger are nothing without him and is basically taking advantage of the situation i.e totally 100% drag band ha ha and a paycheck gig because AL's solo work has flopped big time where are all his loyal fans? and Brian's constant tripe about we are dangerous on stage is hilarious talk about head up his own backside, Queen was a dangerous on the edge of your seat band before Freddie passed away that is 100% fact but no way are they even 10% dangerous as AL's drag tribute band, like others have said the same stories the same one liners is an insult and patronizing to fans they are like robots just wanting cash. I still say Brian is only using AL and does what he's told also till he's done with touring then they'll drop him like a sack of shit
Someone can correct me if I am wrong but i have not seen one interview from Brian paying any form of a compliment towards Freddie i.e his voice or music or calling Freddie a gift from god or anything really while Freddie was alive. But now he seems perfectly fine with the band being extremely gay like it's a cabaret show and not a rock concert I think Adam knows Brian and Roger are nothing without him and is basically taking advantage of the situation i.e totally 100% drag band ha ha and a paycheck gig because AL's solo work has flopped big time where are all his loyal fans? and Brian's constant tripe about we are dangerous on stage is hilarious talk about head up his own backside, Queen was a dangerous on the edge of your seat band before Freddie passed away that is 100% fact but no way are they even 10% dangerous as AL's drag tribute band, like others have said the same stories the same one liners is an insult and patronizing to fans they are like robots just wanting cash. I still say Brian is only using AL and does what he's told also till he's done with touring then they'll drop him like a sack of shit
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Flash005 Well said and a good honest post, and at least you can see what is going on here as the rest of this site are half a sleep .
Adam is a poor weak artist and your correct his solo career is dying i mean he never took the charts by storm here in the UK did he and i see no Adam mania like Take That get.
Peter Hince is a great guy and tells it as it is and i go along with his every word. May & Taylor snubbed his book and apparently do not speak with him anymore. Brian has become arrogant and now Roger is the same, its like they have forgotten what Queen stood for all those years ago. Back in 2006 Brian, Roger & Elton were slagging off Xfactor & American Idol saying it was killing off real artists trying to break into the industry and a year later May & Taylor were on the Xfactor ! They are so forty faced its incredible. They have never gave Freddie the true credit he richly deserves and as you rightly pointed out they let Adam drag up in high heeled boots looking like a right dogs dinner and making the band look soft as shit, in fact Scissor Sisters look butcher than Queen are today ! Its all gone terribly wrong.
Adam is a poor weak artist and your correct his solo career is dying i mean he never took the charts by storm here in the UK did he and i see no Adam mania like Take That get.
Peter Hince is a great guy and tells it as it is and i go along with his every word. May & Taylor snubbed his book and apparently do not speak with him anymore. Brian has become arrogant and now Roger is the same, its like they have forgotten what Queen stood for all those years ago. Back in 2006 Brian, Roger & Elton were slagging off Xfactor & American Idol saying it was killing off real artists trying to break into the industry and a year later May & Taylor were on the Xfactor ! They are so forty faced its incredible. They have never gave Freddie the true credit he richly deserves and as you rightly pointed out they let Adam drag up in high heeled boots looking like a right dogs dinner and making the band look soft as shit, in fact Scissor Sisters look butcher than Queen are today ! Its all gone terribly wrong.
flash00.
[QUOTE] [b]Miracle. wrote:[/b]
Flash005 Well said and a good honest post, and at least you can see what is going on here as the rest of this site are half a sleep .
Adam is a poor weak artist and your correct his solo career is dying i mean he never took the charts by storm here in the UK did he and i see no Adam mania like Take That get.
Peter Hince is a great guy and tells it as it is and i go along with his every word. May & Taylor snubbed his book and apparently do not speak with him anymore. Brian has become arrogant and now Roger is the same, its like they have forgotten what Queen stood for all those years ago. Back in 2006 Brian, Roger & Elton were slagging off Xfactor & American Idol saying it was killing off real artists trying to break into the industry and a year later May & Taylor were on the Xfactor ! They are so forty faced its incredible. They have never gave Freddie the true credit he richly deserves and as you rightly pointed out they let Adam drag up in high heeled boots looking like a right dogs dinner and making the band look soft as shit, in fact Scissor Sisters look butcher than Queen are today ! Its all gone terribly wrong.[/QUOTE]
Flash005 Well said and a good honest post, and at least you can see what is going on here as the rest of this site are half a sleep .
Adam is a poor weak artist and your correct his solo career is dying i mean he never took the charts by storm here in the UK did he and i see no Adam mania like Take That get.
Peter Hince is a great guy and tells it as it is and i go along with his every word. May & Taylor snubbed his book and apparently do not speak with him anymore. Brian has become arrogant and now Roger is the same, its like they have forgotten what Queen stood for all those years ago. Back in 2006 Brian, Roger & Elton were slagging off Xfactor & American Idol saying it was killing off real artists trying to break into the industry and a year later May & Taylor were on the Xfactor ! They are so forty faced its incredible. They have never gave Freddie the true credit he richly deserves and as you rightly pointed out they let Adam drag up in high heeled boots looking like a right dogs dinner and making the band look soft as shit, in fact Scissor Sisters look butcher than Queen are today ! Its all gone terribly wrong.[/QUOTE]
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Queenman!! wrote:[/b]
Yep it's cabaret meets West End Theatre.... playing the same role each night with same jokes, stories and all focus on makeup, clothes, high heels and using the microphone to simulate a hard cock. That's Adam in a 'nut' shell.[/QUOTE]
How is this any different from Queen in 1977 ?
Listen to a half dozen bootleg recordings before you answer with anything other than "it isn't."
"And maybe next time we'll bring back an orchestra" - every night. They had the costume changes choreographed too. It was pure Liza Minnelli. Mercury mentioned her influence on him plenty of times.
Have you seen the outfits and the makeup they all wore? There's even video of them putting it on, for crying out loud.
It's funny how so many people claim to be Queen fans but know so little about them or music in general. Queen was musical theatre long before 2019. Hell, look at the song structures - half their big hits aren't of the verse/chorus format. BoRhap, Best Friend, Crazy, Under Pressure, Break Free. Straight from musical theatre.
Yep it's cabaret meets West End Theatre.... playing the same role each night with same jokes, stories and all focus on makeup, clothes, high heels and using the microphone to simulate a hard cock. That's Adam in a 'nut' shell.[/QUOTE]
How is this any different from Queen in 1977 ?
Listen to a half dozen bootleg recordings before you answer with anything other than "it isn't."
"And maybe next time we'll bring back an orchestra" - every night. They had the costume changes choreographed too. It was pure Liza Minnelli. Mercury mentioned her influence on him plenty of times.
Have you seen the outfits and the makeup they all wore? There's even video of them putting it on, for crying out loud.
It's funny how so many people claim to be Queen fans but know so little about them or music in general. Queen was musical theatre long before 2019. Hell, look at the song structures - half their big hits aren't of the verse/chorus format. BoRhap, Best Friend, Crazy, Under Pressure, Break Free. Straight from musical theatre.
stevelondon20
[QUOTE] [b]flash00. wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Miracle. wrote:[/b]
Flash005 Well said and a good honest post, and at least you can see what is going on here as the rest of this site are half a sleep .
Adam is a poor weak artist and your correct his solo career is dying i mean he never took the charts by storm here in the UK did he and i see no Adam mania like Take That get.
Peter Hince is a great guy and tells it as it is and i go along with his every word. May & Taylor snubbed his book and apparently do not speak with him anymore. Brian has become arrogant and now Roger is the same, its like they have forgotten what Queen stood for all those years ago. Back in 2006 Brian, Roger & Elton were slagging off Xfactor & American Idol saying it was killing off real artists trying to break into the industry and a year later May & Taylor were on the Xfactor ! They are so forty faced its incredible. They have never gave Freddie the true credit he richly deserves and as you rightly pointed out they let Adam drag up in high heeled boots looking like a right dogs dinner and making the band look soft as shit, in fact Scissor Sisters look butcher than Queen are today ! Its all gone terribly wrong.[/QUOTE]
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Whilst some of what you said makes sense, the rest is complete bollocks.
Adam may have not have had much success over here in the UK in terms of his solo work, but he is doing a great job I reckon with Bri and Rog.
"Fans" can moan all they like... Adam is a cunt, Adam is a Nancy boy etc... He is belting out the songs only the way he knows how and that is with pride and joy. He always acknowledges Freddie.
Just enjoy it and stop fucking moaning.
[QUOTE] [b]Miracle. wrote:[/b]
Flash005 Well said and a good honest post, and at least you can see what is going on here as the rest of this site are half a sleep .
Adam is a poor weak artist and your correct his solo career is dying i mean he never took the charts by storm here in the UK did he and i see no Adam mania like Take That get.
Peter Hince is a great guy and tells it as it is and i go along with his every word. May & Taylor snubbed his book and apparently do not speak with him anymore. Brian has become arrogant and now Roger is the same, its like they have forgotten what Queen stood for all those years ago. Back in 2006 Brian, Roger & Elton were slagging off Xfactor & American Idol saying it was killing off real artists trying to break into the industry and a year later May & Taylor were on the Xfactor ! They are so forty faced its incredible. They have never gave Freddie the true credit he richly deserves and as you rightly pointed out they let Adam drag up in high heeled boots looking like a right dogs dinner and making the band look soft as shit, in fact Scissor Sisters look butcher than Queen are today ! Its all gone terribly wrong.[/QUOTE]
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Whilst some of what you said makes sense, the rest is complete bollocks.
Adam may have not have had much success over here in the UK in terms of his solo work, but he is doing a great job I reckon with Bri and Rog.
"Fans" can moan all they like... Adam is a cunt, Adam is a Nancy boy etc... He is belting out the songs only the way he knows how and that is with pride and joy. He always acknowledges Freddie.
Just enjoy it and stop fucking moaning.
Saint Jiub
[QUOTE] [b]Queenman!! wrote:[/b]
Yep it's cabaret meets West End Theatre.... playing the same role each night with same jokes, stories
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Adam has the exact same contrived stale banter delivered the same way every night to a generic audience.
Although Freddie had rehearsed banter, it was delivered differently each night and was never stale. Freddie conversed with the audience rather rather than reciting the same stuff every night like Adam.
Freddie always had something special to say to each unique audience.
Chicago for example:
"We must be gluttons for punishment because every year we come back for the snow" 1978
"Do you know that this is the first time we've been here where there's been no snow on the ground?" 1980
"This is for the Real Girls" 1982 (dedication to New York Daughters)
Yep it's cabaret meets West End Theatre.... playing the same role each night with same jokes, stories
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Adam has the exact same contrived stale banter delivered the same way every night to a generic audience.
Although Freddie had rehearsed banter, it was delivered differently each night and was never stale. Freddie conversed with the audience rather rather than reciting the same stuff every night like Adam.
Freddie always had something special to say to each unique audience.
Chicago for example:
"We must be gluttons for punishment because every year we come back for the snow" 1978
"Do you know that this is the first time we've been here where there's been no snow on the ground?" 1980
"This is for the Real Girls" 1982 (dedication to New York Daughters)
Saint Jiub
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The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Saint Jiub wrote:[/b]
bah ...
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http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1408549/to-richard-re-posts-not-coming-through-at-all.aspx
^ workaround.
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http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1408549/to-richard-re-posts-not-coming-through-at-all.aspx
^ workaround.
Saint Jiub
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Saint Jiub wrote:[/b]
bah ...
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http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1408549/to-richard-re-posts-not-coming-through-at-all.aspx
^ workaround.
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I revised my original post ^
I took too long to remember Freddie's concert banter ...
[QUOTE] [b]Saint Jiub wrote:[/b]
bah ...
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http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1408549/to-richard-re-posts-not-coming-through-at-all.aspx
^ workaround.
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I revised my original post ^
I took too long to remember Freddie's concert banter ...
runner_70
[QUOTE] [b]Miracle. wrote:[/b]
The great Peter Hince is spot on with his thoughts on Queen+ Adam Lambert. He does talk a lot of sense and he should know as he toured with Queen for many many years with Fred.
check out the download below.......[/QUOTE]
Spot on - Kudos to a great guy
The great Peter Hince is spot on with his thoughts on Queen+ Adam Lambert. He does talk a lot of sense and he should know as he toured with Queen for many many years with Fred.
check out the download below.......[/QUOTE]
Spot on - Kudos to a great guy
runner_70
[QUOTE] [b]Queenman!! wrote:[/b]
Yep it's cabaret meets West End Theatre.... playing the same role each night with same jokes, stories and all focus on makeup, clothes, high heels and using the microphone to simulate a hard cock. That's Adam in a 'nut' shell.
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You forgot looking like a drugged up peacock and sounding like a raped goat while destroying the Queen catalogue.
Yep it's cabaret meets West End Theatre.... playing the same role each night with same jokes, stories and all focus on makeup, clothes, high heels and using the microphone to simulate a hard cock. That's Adam in a 'nut' shell.
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You forgot looking like a drugged up peacock and sounding like a raped goat while destroying the Queen catalogue.
runner_70
[QUOTE] [b]flash00. wrote:[/b]
I have been thinking the same thing for a long time with regards to Brian Roger and Adam, AL dresses exactly the same as the cast from We Will Rock You musical, he is not camp he is more like a full on drag queen in a tribute band, is that why he never works the whole stage in case he trips in his high heel shoes or is it swollen ankles?, what really annoys me is how Brian kisses AL's backside worshiping him but cringed and whinged about any slightest camp leaning of any of Freddie's music i.e Hot Space album.
Someone can correct me if I am wrong but i have not seen one interview from Brian paying any form of a compliment towards Freddie i.e his voice or music or calling Freddie a gift from god or anything really while Freddie was alive. But now he seems perfectly fine with the band being extremely gay like it's a cabaret show and not a rock concert I think Adam knows Brian and Roger are nothing without him and is basically taking advantage of the situation i.e totally 100% drag band ha ha and a paycheck gig because AL's solo work has flopped big time where are all his loyal fans? and Brian's constant tripe about we are dangerous on stage is hilarious talk about head up his own backside, Queen was a dangerous on the edge of your seat band before Freddie passed away that is 100% fact but no way are they even 10% dangerous as AL's drag tribute band, like others have said the same stories the same one liners is an insult and patronizing to fans they are like robots just wanting cash. I still say Brian is only using AL and does what he's told also till he's done with touring then they'll drop him like a sack of shit[/QUOTE]
Wow what a post. Awesome. You hit the nail on its ugly head. Interesting point with Hot Space but completely true. I always said that Brian is still envious of Freddie because he was the main focus of Queen, wrote the better songs and when people talk of Queen Brian is always #2. Freddie was much closer to John and ROger than to Brian. Look what May always said about Don't stop me now- he hated the song and there are two versions now where he put his guitars on it. Now as he knows the song is very popular among Queen fans he suddenly likes the song but surely has to put guitars on it. He is a two faced guy - in interviews he wants to be the humble guy but if you dig deeper there is a huge ego problem this guy has. And the AL asskissing is annoying that is true.
I have been thinking the same thing for a long time with regards to Brian Roger and Adam, AL dresses exactly the same as the cast from We Will Rock You musical, he is not camp he is more like a full on drag queen in a tribute band, is that why he never works the whole stage in case he trips in his high heel shoes or is it swollen ankles?, what really annoys me is how Brian kisses AL's backside worshiping him but cringed and whinged about any slightest camp leaning of any of Freddie's music i.e Hot Space album.
Someone can correct me if I am wrong but i have not seen one interview from Brian paying any form of a compliment towards Freddie i.e his voice or music or calling Freddie a gift from god or anything really while Freddie was alive. But now he seems perfectly fine with the band being extremely gay like it's a cabaret show and not a rock concert I think Adam knows Brian and Roger are nothing without him and is basically taking advantage of the situation i.e totally 100% drag band ha ha and a paycheck gig because AL's solo work has flopped big time where are all his loyal fans? and Brian's constant tripe about we are dangerous on stage is hilarious talk about head up his own backside, Queen was a dangerous on the edge of your seat band before Freddie passed away that is 100% fact but no way are they even 10% dangerous as AL's drag tribute band, like others have said the same stories the same one liners is an insult and patronizing to fans they are like robots just wanting cash. I still say Brian is only using AL and does what he's told also till he's done with touring then they'll drop him like a sack of shit[/QUOTE]
Wow what a post. Awesome. You hit the nail on its ugly head. Interesting point with Hot Space but completely true. I always said that Brian is still envious of Freddie because he was the main focus of Queen, wrote the better songs and when people talk of Queen Brian is always #2. Freddie was much closer to John and ROger than to Brian. Look what May always said about Don't stop me now- he hated the song and there are two versions now where he put his guitars on it. Now as he knows the song is very popular among Queen fans he suddenly likes the song but surely has to put guitars on it. He is a two faced guy - in interviews he wants to be the humble guy but if you dig deeper there is a huge ego problem this guy has. And the AL asskissing is annoying that is true.
rockchic65
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Queenman!! wrote:[/b]
Yep it's cabaret meets West End Theatre.... playing the same role each night with same jokes, stories and all focus on makeup, clothes, high heels and using the microphone to simulate a hard cock. That's Adam in a 'nut' shell.[/QUOTE]
How is this any different from Queen in 1977 ?
Listen to a half dozen bootleg recordings before you answer with anything other than "it isn't."
"And maybe next time we'll bring back an orchestra" - every night. They had the costume changes choreographed too. It was pure Liza Minnelli. Mercury mentioned her influence on him plenty of times.
Have you seen the outfits and the makeup they all wore? There's even video of them putting it on, for crying out loud.
It's funny how so many people claim to be Queen fans but know so little about them or music in general. Queen was musical theatre long before 2019. Hell, look at the song structures - half their big hits aren't of the verse/chorus format. BoRhap, Best Friend, Crazy, Under Pressure, Break Free. Straight from musical theatre.
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I agree, I feel like I've been following a completely different band than some of the people posting here.
[QUOTE] [b]Queenman!! wrote:[/b]
Yep it's cabaret meets West End Theatre.... playing the same role each night with same jokes, stories and all focus on makeup, clothes, high heels and using the microphone to simulate a hard cock. That's Adam in a 'nut' shell.[/QUOTE]
How is this any different from Queen in 1977 ?
Listen to a half dozen bootleg recordings before you answer with anything other than "it isn't."
"And maybe next time we'll bring back an orchestra" - every night. They had the costume changes choreographed too. It was pure Liza Minnelli. Mercury mentioned her influence on him plenty of times.
Have you seen the outfits and the makeup they all wore? There's even video of them putting it on, for crying out loud.
It's funny how so many people claim to be Queen fans but know so little about them or music in general. Queen was musical theatre long before 2019. Hell, look at the song structures - half their big hits aren't of the verse/chorus format. BoRhap, Best Friend, Crazy, Under Pressure, Break Free. Straight from musical theatre.
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I agree, I feel like I've been following a completely different band than some of the people posting here.