Doughnut-couldn’t agree more that’s it’s a no win and I am still amazed that people take this so personally! I also have to agree with your probate comments, not sure there’s is much merit to that. Phoebe did make a comment at one point (maybe his blog?) that suggested squatters rights might have been a contributing factor. From what I’ve read on that, I suppose it’s possible though, in the early 1990’s, it seems as if gay rights weren’t being recognized AT ALL regarding estates so not sure how that could be a concern but who knows?. Phoebe has also alluded to problems with settling estates on at least two occasions: his own relating to ownership of a home and in regards to Joe Fanelli. Doesn’t seem as if the situation needed to be handed the way it was when you take these things into consideration. Would love to pick a lawyers brain on those things lol!
What show are you referring to with Peter and Kash? I don’t think I’ve seen that one.
RE Quora....you guys are making me really glad I missed that nightmare! I just hope that’s not what has kept Peter from his blog!
It's a interview with kash and Phoebe on utube answering a q and a for fans it's quite nice.
Amidds here is the link
https://youtu.be/VVMkeo38kTI
I don't really know much about Quora or how it works. think i'll stay well away.
Phoebe did comment about 'squatters rights' but I am sure the three men would not have gone down this road. I don't think we will ever know the real truth but I am suspicious of the reasons given by Peter. He gave an interview yesterday and said that things said about Mary aren't true as Freddie made sure they were all looked after. I wish he didn't back paddle as he was clearly unhappy about the situation when he wrote his book....sigh lol
Thank for the link Doughnut - very telling response from Kash when asked about Mary! I have no doubt that the three would NOT have tried to exercise squatters rights. I think Phoebe mentioned it as the excuse behind the probate reasoning - as if probate wasn't a good excuse and that 'they' were actually fearful of 'squatting'. You are right though, the story has changed a bit over the years - probably for the reasons you (?) mentioned earlier that time heals all wounds. I mean, a lot of time has gone by and what would be the point to hold a grudge this many years later? What happened, happened. Definitely could've been handled better but takes a lot of energy to stay angry over it. I just hope that it's time and forgiveness on his part and not outside influence controlling (or attempting to) him!
AAANNNNDDDDD back to the reading lol! Working through Peter's second book and Thor and Lee's second thread. The thread has brought back to mind Shaun Matthews - very unfortunate that he got chased away from here! He had some wonderful insight!!! Probably could've helped shed some light on the most recent topic. Damn, I went right back down that rabbit hole again, sorry!
I dont think Shaun knows much more than Peter, Or the others as they were closer to Freddie himself and Garden lodge.He was just security after death for a bit and drinking buddy of Jims.Oh and he sold some of the Garden lodge videos Jim had given him of Freddie and Thor. And friends which is out there circulating today.Maybe he will write a book based on his time with Jim and that will give us a deeper look into their relationship maybe a little more on Freddie but I think we have some pretty first hand reliable sources out there right now and we cant forget we got Rudi too soon.
Chevy - i don't think Shaun knows enough to write a book, he was just there and could give some clarity to the previous conversation. Unfortunately, it seems as if he was chased out of here so, I doubt we'll hear from him again.
Sounds like Rudi is getting pretty close per his Instagram. His book will probably be very interesting regarding working with Freddie and the videos they made. He didn't appear in Peter and Jim's book in relation to a personal relationship but I know he has talked about being personal friends with
Freddie in the past so, maybe some tidbits there as well.
Amidds, yes I dont know too much about the Germany bunch but Rudi seems like a tender soul.
Something that has me wondering....
Hello all
In As It Began, it states that Freddie was living with Roger until November 1972. Freddie then moves in with Mary. I believe Freddie buys Stafford Terrace in 1977? Joe Fanelli lives there for a short time according to David Evans and David Minns book, This Was The Real Life. When does Freddie move out of Holland Rd? I’m trying to piece together the actual timeline that Freddie was living with Mary. Does anybody have any insight?
Terri557, I'm not sure but I think he lived with her from 71 through 75.Then they separated in 76.
Terri,557 , I think it was part of 72 through75 and separated in 76.I know he was dating rose rose in 71 when living with Roger .Then picked up with Mary in 71 then they moved in a apartment together in 72 through 75.
Freddie just spent enough time with Mary till his fame hit and then the split seem to hit.But life long friends is a nice thing to have.
Chevyman, I was surprised to see that it said November of 1972 as the date he was still with Roger and also that so many people say that Mary lived with Freddie for 6 or 7 years. . I know he’s was dating David Minns in summer of 1975. Just wondering where all these people are getting 6 even 7 years . Thanks.
Terri, I think it was from end of 72 to 75 when Queen took off then they split.More like 4 years.
I think he was still living with Mary when he and David were having dealings he was cheating on Mary ended things in December of 75.
Terri, not sure if you’re gonna find exact dates....this is from Phoebes blog #84 regarding when Freddie lived on Holland Rd:
As this is well before my time and I am certainly no Queen historian I would take a guess at late 1960s early 70s. Working backwards from Stafford Terrace where he moved to in 1975/6, he lived with Mary in Victoria Road after his stay on Holland.
Not much help but all I could find other than what you already referenced.
