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FMBMJDRT
Do you think that it is possible JD could suffer from PTSD or Bipolar disorder? Just thinking of his manic spending on lap dancer, plus some of his documented behaviour in the 1980s....
Day dop
[QUOTE] [b]Ale Solan wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]
That was January 1997. They recorded No One But You in October 1997.[/QUOTE]
Last John's appearance on the studio was in 1999 supervising Under Pressure's Rah Mix[/QUOTE]
My comment was regarding the last known time they played together.
[QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]
That was January 1997. They recorded No One But You in October 1997.[/QUOTE]
Last John's appearance on the studio was in 1999 supervising Under Pressure's Rah Mix[/QUOTE]
My comment was regarding the last known time they played together.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
And as usual they bash him.[/QUOTE]
Telling the truth isn't "bashing" him. You are cold and empty inside if you can't see the sadness in Brian's eyes while he talks about this.
Deacon has only spoken to them through lawyers these last 20 years while still accepting royalty cheques from their hard work to keep the music alive, and they are still this nice to him. Watch The Eagles documentary if you want to see what bashing looks like. Brian and Roger are gentlemen.
Did you know that every time they go on the road, they still invite him to be in the band?
Of course you didn't. Because you're too busy spending hours a day being an internet troll, looking for places to defame three people you've never met. Your drivel is all over YouTube videos too. You should be ashamed of yourself for being so full of hate.
Pot calling the kettle black about bashing people.
Get a life.
And as usual they bash him.[/QUOTE]
Telling the truth isn't "bashing" him. You are cold and empty inside if you can't see the sadness in Brian's eyes while he talks about this.
Deacon has only spoken to them through lawyers these last 20 years while still accepting royalty cheques from their hard work to keep the music alive, and they are still this nice to him. Watch The Eagles documentary if you want to see what bashing looks like. Brian and Roger are gentlemen.
Did you know that every time they go on the road, they still invite him to be in the band?
Of course you didn't. Because you're too busy spending hours a day being an internet troll, looking for places to defame three people you've never met. Your drivel is all over YouTube videos too. You should be ashamed of yourself for being so full of hate.
Pot calling the kettle black about bashing people.
Get a life.
Chrisallstar
I agree they’re not bashing him at all. It just seems that John couldn’t cope with everything.
I think I read an interview with him after Queen took a long break between albums in the 80s where he said he got quite depressed doing nothing. Don’t forget that in 1998 Brian and Roger were each working on their fairly mediocre solo albums and respective tours. Perhaps depression hit him again and he went on a downward spiral to the extent that h withdrew completely?
When Queen did come back together in the late 90s it was only to collaborate with Robbie Williams and Five and maybe John just thought that was pointless.
This is just me speculating obviously and perhaps we’ll never know the true reason - but even if John has fallen out with Brian and Roger it doesn’t explain him never giving interviews or being seen regularly in public, he doesn’t even contribute to Queen documentaries or even write a letter to the fan club. So I think there are issues that run a lot deeper than a falling out.
Ultimately now it’s been so long that if John was ever to attend a Queen event that the attention and scrutiny from fans and the media would be such that it would be unbearable for such a shy and fragile individual.
Wasn’t he meant to attend the Stormtroopers photo exhibition premiere and went as far as getting dressed up to go but backed out and sent his sons instead? Not sure where I heard that.
I think I read an interview with him after Queen took a long break between albums in the 80s where he said he got quite depressed doing nothing. Don’t forget that in 1998 Brian and Roger were each working on their fairly mediocre solo albums and respective tours. Perhaps depression hit him again and he went on a downward spiral to the extent that h withdrew completely?
When Queen did come back together in the late 90s it was only to collaborate with Robbie Williams and Five and maybe John just thought that was pointless.
This is just me speculating obviously and perhaps we’ll never know the true reason - but even if John has fallen out with Brian and Roger it doesn’t explain him never giving interviews or being seen regularly in public, he doesn’t even contribute to Queen documentaries or even write a letter to the fan club. So I think there are issues that run a lot deeper than a falling out.
Ultimately now it’s been so long that if John was ever to attend a Queen event that the attention and scrutiny from fans and the media would be such that it would be unbearable for such a shy and fragile individual.
Wasn’t he meant to attend the Stormtroopers photo exhibition premiere and went as far as getting dressed up to go but backed out and sent his sons instead? Not sure where I heard that.
Makka
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
And as usual they bash him. I really wonder what caused the friction between them. I hope Deacy comes out one day for an interview[/QUOTE]
I don't really understand how you think they are bashing him here? John looks totally disinterested in being there and they were just reflecting on the time and how he was and that it was the last time they played live together.
And as usual they bash him. I really wonder what caused the friction between them. I hope Deacy comes out one day for an interview[/QUOTE]
I don't really understand how you think they are bashing him here? John looks totally disinterested in being there and they were just reflecting on the time and how he was and that it was the last time they played live together.
Dougie 4
Let us leave John Deacon alone. People are allowed to retire and he may have had personal reasons we don't know about. He probably functioned better in the Queen team with Freddie. The two of them collaborated often and Freddie was very good at encouraging John to write and compose. That doesn't mean the rest were bad people, it is just that artistically John felt a connection with Freddie.
Jeremy
[QUOTE] [b]Chrisallstar wrote:[/b]
Don’t forget that in 1998 Brian and Roger were each working on their fairly mediocre solo albums and respective tours.
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"Another World" is an amazing album. Great songs, great production. I haven't heard "Electric Fire".
Don’t forget that in 1998 Brian and Roger were each working on their fairly mediocre solo albums and respective tours.
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"Another World" is an amazing album. Great songs, great production. I haven't heard "Electric Fire".
Negative Creep
[QUOTE] [b]Chrisallstar wrote:[/b]
Wasn’t he meant to attend the Stormtroopers photo exhibition premiere and went as far as getting dressed up to go but backed out and sent his sons instead? Not sure where I heard that.
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I don't think so. Someone claimed to have spoken to one of his kids, who told them he was supposed to be attending but couldn't for some reason or other - I think that's called making an excuse.
Describing him as being fragile is going a bit far too.
[QUOTE] [b]Makka wrote:[/b]
I don't really understand how you think they are bashing him here? John looks totally disinterested in being there and they were just reflecting on the time and how he was and that it was the last time they played live together. [/QUOTE]
Does he look disinterested? What would you have liked him to do playing a song like TSMGO? If he was disinterested, maybe he was bored of all the faff over playing one song - or maybe it just dawned on him that he didn't want to playing in a band with a stand in frontman? It's pretty obvious that there were major arguments over where they wanted or didn't want to take the Queen "brand" shortly after this period.
Wasn’t he meant to attend the Stormtroopers photo exhibition premiere and went as far as getting dressed up to go but backed out and sent his sons instead? Not sure where I heard that.
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I don't think so. Someone claimed to have spoken to one of his kids, who told them he was supposed to be attending but couldn't for some reason or other - I think that's called making an excuse.
Describing him as being fragile is going a bit far too.
[QUOTE] [b]Makka wrote:[/b]
I don't really understand how you think they are bashing him here? John looks totally disinterested in being there and they were just reflecting on the time and how he was and that it was the last time they played live together. [/QUOTE]
Does he look disinterested? What would you have liked him to do playing a song like TSMGO? If he was disinterested, maybe he was bored of all the faff over playing one song - or maybe it just dawned on him that he didn't want to playing in a band with a stand in frontman? It's pretty obvious that there were major arguments over where they wanted or didn't want to take the Queen "brand" shortly after this period.
Sunshine
I think Brian and Roger took the right decision in developing the Queen brand. Nearly all activities were very successful, especially the musical and the Queen + AL cooperation.
I don't know if Brian and Roger are even annoyed that John proceeds to get paid in royalties because they do the work. John probably even didn't need the money and it wasn't like John demanded that Brian & Roger would proceed working with the Queen brand, it was their own wish.
Truth is that no one really knows how the relationship is between the 3 of them or how John's state of mind is. Just let it be. It's ok.
I don't know if Brian and Roger are even annoyed that John proceeds to get paid in royalties because they do the work. John probably even didn't need the money and it wasn't like John demanded that Brian & Roger would proceed working with the Queen brand, it was their own wish.
Truth is that no one really knows how the relationship is between the 3 of them or how John's state of mind is. Just let it be. It's ok.
Markman38
To my understanding he did signed a lot of stuff until not long ago. Also for Queen auctions and the Phoenix Trust so I think he really was done with the music industry and he never seemed to comfortable in direct contact. He has alwayws that shy look
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Sunshine wrote:[/b]
I think Brian and Roger took the right decision in developing the Queen brand. Nearly all activities were very successful, especially the musical and the Queen + AL cooperation.
I don't know if Brian and Roger are even annoyed that John proceeds to get paid in royalties because they do the work. John probably even didn't need the money and it wasn't like John demanded that Brian & Roger would proceed working with the Queen brand, it was their own wish.
Truth is that no one really knows how the relationship is between the 3 of them or how John's state of mind is. Just let it be. It's ok.[/QUOTE]
Precisely. Deacon may be accepting his cheques while doing nothing now, but he worked for a solid two decades. He earned his retirement, and doesn't owe anyone a thing. His bandmates have been honourable in keeping the finer details under wraps, as it's nobody's business but theirs.
They had a few missteps in the early 2000s as they were sorting out their brand, but Queen are now the biggest band in the world - they've sold more records than anyone this year. None of us could've pictured this even a year ago.
I think Brian and Roger took the right decision in developing the Queen brand. Nearly all activities were very successful, especially the musical and the Queen + AL cooperation.
I don't know if Brian and Roger are even annoyed that John proceeds to get paid in royalties because they do the work. John probably even didn't need the money and it wasn't like John demanded that Brian & Roger would proceed working with the Queen brand, it was their own wish.
Truth is that no one really knows how the relationship is between the 3 of them or how John's state of mind is. Just let it be. It's ok.[/QUOTE]
Precisely. Deacon may be accepting his cheques while doing nothing now, but he worked for a solid two decades. He earned his retirement, and doesn't owe anyone a thing. His bandmates have been honourable in keeping the finer details under wraps, as it's nobody's business but theirs.
They had a few missteps in the early 2000s as they were sorting out their brand, but Queen are now the biggest band in the world - they've sold more records than anyone this year. None of us could've pictured this even a year ago.
dysan
Agreed. When this show happened in 1997 it was a very very odd time for Queen. The vehicle was breached and its road needed metalling.
dysan
Would Deacon have remain a part of it if he knew? Probably not.
Would Queen be where they are now if Deacon's vote counted against the other 2? Probably not.
Would Queen be where they are now if Deacon's vote counted against the other 2? Probably not.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]dysan wrote:[/b]
Would Queen be where they are now if Deacon's vote counted against the other 2? Probably not.[/QUOTE]
Hard to know. But that's a very good question.
He's been a recluse for longer than he was in the band. It's impossible to know where his head is at these days. He could be an entirely different person now for all we know.
Would Queen be where they are now if Deacon's vote counted against the other 2? Probably not.[/QUOTE]
Hard to know. But that's a very good question.
He's been a recluse for longer than he was in the band. It's impossible to know where his head is at these days. He could be an entirely different person now for all we know.