I can guarantee you, that one member on QOL had posted that opinion (not mentioned John, I think). The poster took it back after other fans didn’t take well to that opinion. But yes, a well known longtime member and Queen fan is very pissed by everything Brian and Roger have done in the past 20 years, and he did state that opinion in a Q+AL discussion. Caroline is not lying about that. I was very shocked, when I had read that post earlier this year.
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
I think some of what she says is sarcasm which isn't realized by everyone. The other part is the absolute abuse she suffers at the hands of Icy who cannot let anything go. She posts the same thing again and again and again, even if the infraction was years ago. It has been like this for a long time. I always think Icy must cut and paste the same things each time. It is beyond ridiculous. My opinion is that scrolling is a good option if something bothers you. This is a fan board and the topic is QAL, not Queen. Icy has a really bad habit of telling everyone they are not Queen fans if they also like Adam. I have been a Queen fan since the 70's (20 years longer than Icy and some of the others), but I am not a Queen according to Icy, since she knows all about me and what I like. That alone is extremely annoying. I happen to love Dr May, he is my fav, but unless Freddie is the man, you get crap here. You also can't like QAL,no matter what. Since that is the topic of this section of the board, it doesn't make much sense to me at all. I can like who I like and so can others, but that right is not afforded to me here. I am always told and "In a Queen board, no less" if they don't like what you say. It is like an alternate universe in this place really. [/QUOTE]
Sarcasm, no sorry. ..it didn't come across that way at all, more like something she firmly believes about Queen fans. One, two or even a few, but she said Queen fans. I truly think she has an ax to grind about Queen fans, maybe she thinks we have not supported Lambert enough. i really wish she would explain herself.
I almost can't believe you would try to defend it, but not that really surprised, because once again, you have no problems with what she says about Queen fans. If I say something you don't like about SweetCaroline, it's a whole other story.
And once again, you try to deflect on me to try to shift from what SweetCaroline has posted. at least you could say she was wrong, or wrong to post what she did. That will never happen.
[QUOTE] [b]Sealion wrote:[/b]
I can guarantee you, that one member on QOL had posted that opinion (not mentioned John, I think). The poster took it back after other fans didn’t take well to that opinion. But yes, a well known longtime member and Queen fan is very pissed by everything Brian and Roger have done in the past 20 years, and he did state that opinion in a Q+AL discussion. Caroline is not lying about that. I was very shocked, when I had read that post earlier this year.
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Who said it and where, geniuley would like to know, because I'm not sure if I missed that.
SweetCaroline has said Queen fans wanted Brian, Roger and John to die with Freddie. She assumed that about Queen fans as a whole. Which I still say was a wrong thing to assume, let alone post.
[QUOTE] [b]Sealion wrote:[/b]
I can guarantee you, that one member on QOL had posted that opinion (not mentioned John, I think). The poster took it back after other fans didn’t take well to that opinion. But yes, a well known longtime member and Queen fan is very pissed by everything Brian and Roger have done in the past 20 years, and he did state that opinion in a Q+AL discussion. Caroline is not lying about that. I was very shocked, when I had read that post earlier this year.
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Noone can blame the poster if he is pissed bye everything Mayloe have done for ages now. I am as well with a few exceptions (QPR/NOTW Box). I doubt he wrote that he wanted to see the two guys dead. Thats pure rubbish I think
I can pretty much guess who that was!!
Yeah I really disagree with these types of threads which are just a straight out personal attack. No matter who it's against it's not really necessary guys. Let's be better than this.
That is a "very poor post", indeed. At the very least, she should have narrowed it down to "it seems like SOME Queen fans".
BTW...I've been a Queen fan" since 1978(yes I'm OLD) and I just went to see QAL in concert this past August and also in 2017. It seems there is an unreasonable in incorrect perception of what makes a "true fan" on both sides. I have no interest in Adam Lambert outside of his involvement with Brian and Roger but WOW...I'm really taken aback by the vitriol from those that don't like this collaboration.
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
I can pretty much guess who that was!![/QUOTE]
Do tell.
[QUOTE] [b]PrimeJiveUSA wrote:[/b]
That is a "very poor post", indeed. At the very least, she should have narrowed it down to "it seems like SOME Queen fans".
BTW...I've been a Queen fan" since 1978(yes I'm OLD) and I just went to see QAL in concert this past August and also in 2017. It seems there is an unreasonable in incorrect perception of what makes a "true fan" on both sides. I have no interest in Adam Lambert outside of his involvement with Brian and Roger but WOW...I'm really taken aback by the vitriol from those that don't like this collaboration.[/QUOTE]
She has made some very poor posts more than once regarding Queen fans. Elsewhere on another Queen board she has said posters on QOL isn't accepting AL because he's gay.
I truly think she has a vendetta about Queen fans, at this point. I will never understand how or why someone could ever say that Queen fans wanted Brian Roger and John to die with Freddie. That's one of the most rotten things I've read by any music fan, no matter what "side" one is on and to see it posted on a Queen board...it's crazy, heartless and to start a thread to say someone is boring, has nothing on SweetCaroline's way of posting.
As a lifelong American fan, I may have a different perspective on QAL than say...a European fan that has seen Queen be commercially successful throughout their career. I remember at their nadir where it was hard to get information on a new album like AKOM or The Miracle and I learned about studio happenings and release dates primarily from the fan club newsletter. It broke my heart when their new albums were virtually ignored...when on it's release they only had a few copies in the store and the radio barely(if at all) played the lead single from it. I witnessed Freddie's death covered in the media as a mere blip. I learned that Freddie had died from a small sidebar in the daily USA TODAY newspaper. There wasn't even a real resurgence of interest in Queen in late '91 as far as radio play or media exposure so I was thrilled when a few months later when the Wayne's World movie helped reintroduce Queen to the general American audience.
Fast forward to 2005 and the QPR collaboration. The first couple of U.S. dates of the FULL tour were barely half filled. So...yes...I was very pleased when I saw reports that the first 2014 tour as QAL were very well attended. I never saw ANY incarnation of "Queen" live up to that point. I was only 13 when Queen last toured with Freddie in 1982 and they did not come to my city. Soooo....when I saw that they were coming to Nashville in August of 2017 I immediately jumped at the opportunity to see my lifelong heroes(Roger and Brian) in a live setting and was very pleased to see the arena full and the crowd enthusiastic. The same goes for the Bohemian Rhapsody movie and the subsequent sold out tour. This is MY band. My first love in music and I love seeing them being embraced with sold-out shows. I understand the "greatest hits" pre-programmed nature of the whole thing but I just love that they are prominent here.
That's because I love Queen. It's not a perfect way for Queen to go out but it is the way that it is happening and if that means that they are connecting with a new generation with this configuration then so be it. It's what we've got with Brian and Roger now in their 70's. I appreciate it for what it is.
There was a great precipitous fall for Queen in the states and the Billboard charts bare that out.
Anecdotally, I saw new Queen releases take huge swaths of display space in record stores for Jazz...The Game...Flash Gordon...Greatest Hits...Hot Space. The Works also had that as they had signed on to Capitol Records and there WAS a big promotional push. It was supposed to be their "comeback". But...Capitol Records lost interest by the time of AKOM and I remember it not even being displayed on the wall of new releases...you had to go to the general section and find just a few copies under the "Q" section...same with the Miracle. Innuendo DID actually have a lot of promotional materials since they had just signed to Disney's Hollywood Records but we know how that turned out. #30 on the album charts and off the top 200 in less than 15 weeks.
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Sealion wrote:[/b]
I can guarantee you, that one member on QOL had posted that opinion (not mentioned John, I think). The poster took it back after other fans didn’t take well to that opinion. But yes, a well known longtime member and Queen fan is very pissed by everything Brian and Roger have done in the past 20 years, and he did state that opinion in a Q+AL discussion. Caroline is not lying about that. I was very shocked, when I had read that post earlier this year.
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Who said it and where, geniuley would like to know, because I'm not sure if I missed that.
SweetCaroline has said Queen fans wanted Brian, Roger and John to die with Freddie. She assumed that about Queen fans as a whole. Which I still say was a wrong thing to assume, let alone post.
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Oh, you didn’t miss it. You were also quite shocked to read it and said so. It was fd. I think the discussion came up in the topic about the new QAL documentary. But I could be wrong.
[QUOTE] [b]Sealion wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Sealion wrote:[/b]
I can guarantee you, that one member on QOL had posted that opinion (not mentioned John, I think). The poster took it back after other fans didn’t take well to that opinion. But yes, a well known longtime member and Queen fan is very pissed by everything Brian and Roger have done in the past 20 years, and he did state that opinion in a Q+AL discussion. Caroline is not lying about that. I was very shocked, when I had read that post earlier this year.
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Who said it and where, geniuley would like to know, because I'm not sure if I missed that.
SweetCaroline has said Queen fans wanted Brian, Roger and John to die with Freddie. She assumed that about Queen fans as a whole. Which I still say was a wrong thing to assume, let alone post.
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Oh, you didn’t miss it. You were also quite shocked to read it and said so. It was fd. I think the discussion came up in the topic about the new QAL documentary. But I could be wrong.
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I honestly don't even remember it. Usually I would, but it's been a rough day and it's a rough night. I'll look for it tomorrow sometime.
One final note:
AKOM and The Miracle didn't even achieve Gold status upon initial release in America. Now...The Miracle did chart considerably higher than AKOM at #24 but fell off the chart in under 15 weeks(just like AKOM and Innuendo) and that is due to the fact that Album Rock Radio played IWIA quite a bit and was rebuilding Queen a bit as a "rock" act. Innuendo benefitted from this and it DID go gold upon initial release even though it only hit a chart peak of #30. So...Queen were on a mild "comeback" trajectory at the time of Freddie's death. One of the great things about Wayne's World was that it pushed Hollywood records to issue the quickly compiled Classic Queen that featured many of the ignored 80's singles and hit #4 on the Billboard charts and ultimately sold 3 million copies. That is another example of not being enthralled with the release itself but being thrilled that millions were being introduced to "undiscovered"/underrepresented Queen tracks.
[QUOTE] [b]PrimeJiveUSA wrote:[/b]
As a lifelong American fan, I may have a different perspective on QAL than say...a European fan that has seen Queen be commercially successful throughout their career. I remember at their nadir where it was hard to get information on a new album like AKOM or The Miracle and I learned about studio happenings and release dates primarily from the fan club newsletter. It broke my heart when their new albums were virtually ignored...when on it's release they only had a few copies in the store and the radio barely(if at all) played the lead single from it. I witnessed Freddie's death covered in the media as a mere blip. I learned that Freddie had died from a small sidebar in the daily USA TODAY newspaper. There wasn't even a real resurgence of interest in Queen in late '91 as far as radio play or media exposure so I was thrilled when a few months later when the Wayne's World movie helped reintroduce Queen to the general American audience.
Fast forward to 2005 and the QPR collaboration. The first couple of U.S. dates of the FULL tour were barely half filled. So...yes...I was very pleased when I saw reports that the first 2014 tour as QAL were very well attended. I never saw ANY incarnation of "Queen" live up to that point. I was only 13 when Queen last toured with Freddie in 1982 and they did not come to my city. Soooo....when I saw that they were coming to Nashville in August of 2017 I immediately jumped at the opportunity to see my lifelong heroes(Roger and Brian) in a live setting and was very pleased to see the arena full and the crowd enthusiastic. The same goes for the Bohemian Rhapsody movie and the subsequent sold out tour. This is MY band. My first love in music and I love seeing them being embraced with sold-out shows. I understand the "greatest hits" pre-programmed nature of the whole thing but I just love that they are prominent here.
That's because I love Queen. It's not a perfect way for Queen to go out but it is the way that it is happening and if that means that they are connecting with a new generation with this configuration then so be it. It's what we've got with Brian and Roger now in their 70's. I appreciate it for what it is.[/QUOTE]
There was barely any social media at the time of Q+PR, especially compared to now.
I got to say, Q+AL has lasted longer than I thought it ever would.
And I've never knocked anyone who went...or didn't go see these shows. I missed my chances, but that's ok, I'll live with it. But missing not having seen Freddie and Queen...that's hard, I wish I was a fan before 1992.
