Earls Court 1977 1st night (New audio upgrade)

That's sounds obvious, i keep that in mind for next time (if there will be some of course). I checked the audio on greg's channel and it's really sound pretty well, do you know if the vhs made it to public?

Here's a good copy to start with - the aforementioned Miracle Express VHS (whoever that was, once upon a time):

[url]https://we.tl/t-2CRyXKZtUF[/url]

You did a great job with what you had, so looking forward to see what you come up with using this.

Ignore the forum trolls who just complain and can't bother to actually help in some way.

Thank you Real Wizard for your kind words, here is quick processed sample from source you send me.

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
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I don't see any of that going on here, quite the contrary in fact.

There seems to be a little confusion about the Miracle Express VHS tape as the VHS tape (Queen Keep Dancing) might be essentially the same.

Thank you for the first share. It sounds clearer at some moments, especially the piano moments. The drums parts sound, I don't know ho to say this in English, it sounds like there is some slightly louder hiss sound for -and sorry I don't know exactly what part of the drum kit I'm talking about- the ?cymbals? (at least the metallic "plates" in the drum kit). I'm really sorry for not being able to explain what I mean. Your work is really enjoyable anyway.

About the flac file and the quick processing you've done, Mercury's voice sounds quite "metallic", but maybe this is the original sound of the tape. I can't wait to hear what you will do with it.

Anyway, thank you for your work like what you had done for Hyde park.

One last question. If i'm not mistaken, I have downloaded this recording from the (RIP) queen database, the Pittrek rermaster for the audio or from Chief mouse video for the video show but there is a kind of humming or buzzing sound all along, whatever the version. It seems to me I can't hear that hum or buzz sound in the background of your processing and in the document posted by the Real Wizard. Am I getting so old I can't hear it or is is free of that humming sound?

A second post, sorry for being so talkative. From what I've heard in the before/ after, it seems that sometimes the recording loses some "depth". It's less "messy" at some moments, I mean that your upagrade seems to have kind of "brought to light" some parts but at the same time "emptied" it a little, you know, like a fm radio set to emphasise voices. (this is for the DOTL intro) I guess this is the trade off in every choice because, int the before after comparison, some parts have, on the contrary gained depth. (the rest of the DOTL excerpt). In tte BR intro, it seems that Mercury's voice and his piano are a little flattened by the process, the "bass" sounds are lower, taking a bit of life out of it and at the same time putting Mercury's voice "at the front". I really like the result of your processing in the "Now' I'm here, Now I'm there" part of NIH but when the rock really starts, it seems again that some energy has been lost.

Again, this is only my opinion but it might help as a feedback.

Thank you for your work again.

Despite the links posted on this thread, I still think a RAW transfer from the VHS tape is what you need to get try and get hold of Marlamir.
Ask about and you might get one, and you can start from scratch, otherwise you will end up wasting a lot time and effort.
You did a decent enough job on the raw audio transfer of my Hyde Park VHS tape, which also suffered from wow and flutter (despite being a first gen copy from QTV).
A raw transfer of the Earls Court tape would offer you a much easier project to improve upon, with potentially much better results.

A little known fact is that the first public screening of the Earls Court concert was at 2pm on April 23rd 1988 during a UK Queen Convention (yes, I have kept all the schedules :-D).
It was in turn filmed at considerable distance from the big screen in the Ballroom (with the aid of a tripod).
I might add this all was done in full view, and without any objections:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NI2zHtgp4g

Thank you Brunolezouf for your big feedback. I realy welcome and apreciate your opinion, many people have different taste for how audio should sound and what like one the other one doesnt. Thanks again.

Kurgan thank you for the valuable info, i don't really feel and want to start on another audio project. I'm happy with the current output plus i will wouldn't put much effort to it. I no longer have much interest at those kind of project, this was like "shot in the dark".

Is pretty crazy to know that you was able to record that without any objection i thought those thing aren't allowed on those events. no wonder the footage got leaked.

No problem Marlamir, you improved upon the sources you did work on and that's what matters.
Only problem I see is that in this case you used a lossy source to begin with.
By the way, I didn't make the screen recording, but was sat next to the person who did.
Things have changed a lot since 1988, back then it wasn't a concern I guess.
A direct VHS transfer of Earls Court was made from the source tape and eventually emerged years later.
it's that transfer that now circulates in its various guises and generations.
They all stem from the same source tape as in the clip (note the drop out in sound at 1:16).
The ground loop buzz / hum is also present on the source tape during the procession intro, and no doubt this is how it sounded to the audience on the night.

Ohh aha, i thought that was you who record that stuff. Very interesting story

[QUOTE] [b]The Kurgan wrote:[/b]

There seems to be a little confusion about the Miracle Express VHS tape as the VHS tape (Queen Keep Dancing) might be essentially the same.[/QUOTE]

You're right - it's the same thing.

[QUOTE] [b]The Kurgan wrote:[/b]

Despite the links posted on this thread, I still think a RAW transfer from the VHS tape is what you need to get try and get hold of Marlamir.[/QUOTE]

Frank's transfer is probably as good as it's gonna get - it was directly from the VHS, probably a second gen or so from the master.

How did this get out, anyway? It was so hush hush at the time.

It wasn't a raw transfer, if I remember correctly.
He shared a version eqed by him in the straightforward German style (by turning something, a knob... or a valve).

Like Mack, who remastered in only one night some of Queen reissues from 1985 The Complete Works LPs (no proof of this but it might have happened, considering the economical high-shelf eq used by him on this particular project).

^ Cryptic, even by your standards!

OK, I checked all my versions and found a second lossless transfer frank39 made of his VHS copy.
From the notes it says only the record level was adjusted, as it was too high the first time around.
There is no mention of any EQ adjustment, and the ground loop hum is present, so this one seems to be a RAW transfer.
If you check the lineage and share notes for his original share in the link below, he says "I didn´t remaster it, I didn't change anything from the original tape".
www.queenzone.org/forums/904685/announcs-earls-court-6-7-6-1977-flac.aspx

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
Miracle Express VHS (whoever that was, once upon a time):

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Rinus and Marijan Walstijn.
Dutch couple that sold these bootleg tapes on conventions.