Did Freddie make more money than Brian or Roger on the Thank God It's Christmas? I'm wondering this because of singles royalties being split 50/50. Brian and Roger both got and still get writing credits for TGIC (Side A) whereas Freddie was the sole writer of Side B. So, if this is the case then presumably Brian and Roger both got 25% of earnings whereas Freddie got 50%! Despite Freddie not writing the actual main song.
dysan · Member since
He would've got 66% of the 12" which ironically is also his PB for penetration.
Nathan H · Member since
Wow! A lot more than I thought! It's a facinating subject isn't it...
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]dysan wrote:[/b]
He would've got 66% of the 12" which ironically is also his PB for penetration.[/QUOTE]
Freddie would have also received 66% (writer's royalties) for the following 7" releases that had the same (TGIC / Man on the Prowl / Keep Passing) track-listing as the std 12"
Brazil, Sth Africa, Italy, Portugal & Zimbabwe
Dim · Member since
First The record companies will take back their money from album, singles, video eps, concerts etc then come the royalties. Many artist and bands including Queen take an advance before or during the release of their album.
JeroenG · Member since
3 tracks, so total earnings is split in 3:
TGIC: 33,3% (RT/BM)
MOTP: 33,3% (FM)
KPTOW: 33,3% (FM)
So this will make:
FM: 66,6%
RT: 16,7%
BM: 16,7%
ITSM · Member since
What about Deacon?
Nathan H · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]ITSM wrote:[/b]
What about Deacon? [/QUOTE]
He didn't get a writing credit on any of the songs.
Nathan H · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]JeroenG wrote:[/b]
3 tracks, so total earnings is split in 3:
TGIC: 33,3% (RT/BM)
MOTP: 33,3% (FM)
KPTOW: 33,3% (FM)
So this will make:
FM: 66,6%
RT: 16,7%
BM: 16,7%[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that, really useful. You don't by any chance know how royalties work for albums? Presumably the same way.
emrabt · Member since
All 4 of them would presumably also get a few pence performance royalties from the tracks.
dysan · Member since
PPL vs PRS
The age-old band battle.
ITSM · Member since
@emrabt: I guess so.
Deacon didn't write anything before their 3rd album (Misfire), and even that song wasn't a single. Not many people work for free, although he probably had a good time. But of course he made more money from A Night at the Opera, with his popular single (You're my best friend)., and also writing on rest of the albums, including huge hits.
fras444 · Member since
@ITSM; That is a good point...
Did John effectively work for "free" during QI and QII and to a extent SHA? How would that all work? Up until the ANATO... I guess all four where still "working" part time to make ends meet and the well known events that led to the song "flick of the wrist" and "Dead on two legs"....
Post ANATO,
The handful of albums where both John and Roger didn't get a song released ( Roger went all through to the the 80's before getting a real hit... surely the $$$ from the infamous Boh Rhap b-side wasn't a bottomless pit..)
Just having a song or two on a album, was that enough money to live on??? They say (I remember an article or video how the members were encouraging John to write songs and hits as that was the only way he would make the $$$) that writing the hits was where you got your money from... Both Freddie and Brian must have been pulling some cash from their songs in the 70's, being the main ones to be releasing singles during the 70's. How did John and Roger finance themselves, buy houses etc and not need a second job....?
I guess the "all expenses" payed travel and food etc while on tour would help Roger and John from starving to death... but that was not 365 days of the year and you still need to make money to pay the bills, fund the wife's lifestyle, prevent the kids from slave labor, mortgage etc...
There was the famous line where Roger said that "The Magic" tour, was the only tour where they made money.... So all the other tours were a loss or a break even??? How does the finances work in regards to getting paid when the tour was making a loss or breaking even?
Did John and Roger charge themselves out to Queen for a tour along with hotels, food, airfares etc... John had the more songs on the tours post ANATO, did he get a cut or paid more than the "creator" of the band 'Roger" who was lucky to have "Mowtown rock and roll" and "I'm in love with my car" in the setlist and during his lean 70's years of his songs being played live??
Were John and Roger effectively session musicians within their "own" band? Did they charged themselves out per hour for each of Brian's and Freddie's song they played bass and drums on? Was that why Roger tried to play all instruments including bass on a small number of his songs. Was that his way of "keeping" the costs down??
Did they actually have a un-credited writing credit for coming up with bass and drum parts on Freddie's and Brian's songs where they got their money from. Surely all of those intricate bass lines were not all thought of by Brian and Freddie?... Surely John wrote some of those bass lines because he knew he could play them... Some would say that "that's a" song writing credit in itself!!! or by playing instruments on those songs, did they get a percentage from the hit/album sales...
Along with playing Bass and Drums on Brian's and Freddie's songs and releases...
Just getting a song or two on an album.. Was that enough to live off for John? Did John pull some cash with his "not so good" releases such as Spread your wings etc... and especially Roger before he had Radio Gaga and Magic he would have been looking quite broke??
ITSM · Member since
That wasn't what I meant, but thanks for your reply.
I meant they must have earned some money being part of the band and playing on almost every track. John was also handling the finances for the group.
But back to topic... I was wondering how much / how big John's cut were when he didn't had any writing credentials on any tracks on that single...?
ITSM · Member since
PS! I'm not into how much money people earn, I'm just curious in this case.