What Went Wrong With The Cosmos Rocks ?

[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Young Music Fan wrote:[/b]
Brian wrote a lot more personal songs (e.g. meaningful and powerfulness) than any of the others members think about...

'39,
Who Wants To Live Forever
Too Much Love Will Kill You [/QUOTE]

agreed generally, but:

'39 isn't personal is it? it's a sci-fi song.
WWTLF was written for The Highlander - for a specific scene, so again - it ain't really personal
TMLWKY - it may be personal, but isn't it Elizabeth Lamers who penned the lyrics?[/QUOTE]

These songs can have a special meaning for people as the lyrics could be applied to their lives. TMLWKY was an idea conceived by Brian - a documentary turned into a song.

In the beginning Queen was Freddie's baby, he got the band up and running and the band relied on him heavily for his artistic input and flare.
Brian & Roger had flopped with there previous band and decided to let Freddie sprinkle some magic and see what happened.
Sure Roger John & Brian were first class musicians but without the amazing songs Freddie wrote they could have ended up another disaster like Smile did.

[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]

Didn't know there were Megadeth haters here.[/QUOTE]

Nope, I don't hate Megadeth - the music is great.

Separate the art from the artist.

And the artist in this case - Dave Mustaine - is a piece of shit.

[QUOTE] [b]Boudica wrote:[/b]

He did a lot more promotion for the Barcelona album. But the whole Barcelona album isn't exactly top of the charts commercial pop music.The Barcelona song did well in spite of the fact that it wasn't very commercial. The album is well regarded and highly rated, on most places. Freddie did prove that he could work separately from Queen.[/QUOTE]

...give or take an AIDS diagnosis.

When confronted with one's mortality, of course everything changes. Naturally there's no way of knowing if Mercury would've gotten his act together in that short time had his health not taken a turn for the worse, but if we're being honest with ourselves, we know the answer.

It's got nothing to do with promotion. The artist doesn't call the shots on promotion - the label does. And when his label realized what a turd Mr Bad Guy was, they dropped him like a used rubber. Barcelona was on a different label, and because it was a much better album, it was promoted well.

Mercury was brilliant, full stop. But from about 1982-85 he was not even close to his creative peak. No doubt he was a great collaborator with the other band members, even during this period, but in 1985 he was a far cry from the artist he was a decade earlier. Music went from being his main focus to a side gig that paid the bills. It happens to plenty of us.

But Mercury got a second lease on life, knowing it was a limited one. He left New York and Munich behind, and became an artist again. This is undoubtedly why his writing becomes far more consistent after 1986.

[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]

'39 isn't personal is it? it's a sci-fi song.[/QUOTE]

It has multiple layers. May has stated it was all metaphor for how he was leaving everything he knew behind in becoming a rock musician.

[QUOTE] [b]Young Music Fan wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]ST17 wrote:[/b]

Young Music Fan It was not Brian that started Queen in the 60s.
Brian met Roger and they called themselves "Smile" and got a singer called Tim Staffel who later left when the band flopped,
then came a fan of "Smile's" in the form of Freddie Mercury who begged them to give him a chance as he could turn the band around
and he did, firstly the bands name changed to Queen which was Freddie's idea and the crest was formed then Freddie had a brilliant
forecast ahead knowing what direction to take to make the new band work! The rest is history and not only did Freddie make the band massive he himself is
considered by millions as the greatest male vocalist ever !
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But the point I'm trying to make is that if Brian and Roger hadn't have met in the first place then there would be no Queen. The way your putting this information is like Queen isn't a group but a singer with backing musicians like Elton John. Freddie would've quit Queen if he thought that he did everything, it was more of a group effort then your making out.[/QUOTE]

ST17 (and his dozen other monikers here) isn't a Queen fan - similar to runner_70, he's a Freddie Mercury fan who has dedicated his life to slandering May and Taylor because they have managed to create a successful touring version of the band without Mercury. He only says nice things about Deacon because his path of retirement was ostensibly chosen out of respect for Mercury (something which Deacon hasn't confirmed).

Anything said to the contrary, regardless of factual merit, is met with radio silence at best and baseless vitriol at worst. Feelings masquerading as facts. So don't be seeking any kind of reasoned dialogue with these characters - you will be sorely disappointed.

[QUOTE] [b]ST17 wrote:[/b] Brian & Roger had flopped with there previous band and decided to let Freddie sprinkle some magic and see what happened. Sure Roger John & Brian were first class musicians but without the amazing songs Freddie wrote they could have ended up another disaster like Smile did.[/QUOTE] Absolute nonsense. Smile just ended because it ran its course, like literally millions of bands before and since. Smile was a big name on the UK college circuit in the late 1960s, and in Queen's early days (for at least a year) they used the Smile name to get and promote gigs because it had clout, whereas Queen meant nothing to anyone. Once again you are demonstrating your ignorance and are clouded by your hatred for May and Taylor. It says nothing about them and everything about you.

Thank you The Real Wizard keep up your good work.

No wonder Queen ignore their “real” fans.

[QUOTE] [b]Young Music Fan wrote:[/b]

Thank you The Real Wizard keep up your good work.[/QUOTE]

Flattered.

But I'm afraid I won't - I have very little spare time to hand these people's asses to them anymore.

Sadly they just refuse to learn anything beyond their simple worldview, so it's really just a waste of everyone's time. What's the point of trying to educate someone who has no desire to learn?

You are so intellectually superior.

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Young Music Fan wrote:[/b]

Thank you The Real Wizard keep up your good work.[/QUOTE]

Flattered.

But I'm afraid I won't - I have very little spare time to hand these people's asses to them anymore.

Sadly they just refuse to learn anything beyond their simple worldview, so it's really just a waste of everyone's time. What's the point of trying to educate someone who has no desire to learn?[/QUOTE]

But some of us old farts that still visit once a week, and scan past 90% of the rubbish, love the gems that some may never have seen before, such as the above Queen concert placard.

Thanks for that, kind sir.

I can one-up that :)

Here's an ad for Sour Milk Sea at the Roundhouse in March 1970, just before Freddie left the band.