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Iron Butterfly wrote:


Well, I didn't love the cover, so much for everyone right there ;-).
Oh dear. I know Queen did covers, I was talking about AL, not Queen. Why turn it around? Careful mentioning Queen in here, snifflese doesn't like that at all.


So you think it's ok to go on and on about Adam doing covers but when someone points out other artists also do covers including Queen that's not ok? Not turning anything around just pointing out the ludicrousness of your argument, you can't have it both ways, you can't berate Adam for doing what tons of other artists do and not expect an example of the double standard you're applying.

As I pointed out you didn't love the cover but then you aren't a fan of his, plenty people did love it and he sang it for them.

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rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:


Well, I didn't love the cover, so much for everyone right there ;-).
Oh dear. I know Queen did covers, I was talking about AL, not Queen. Why turn it around? Careful mentioning Queen in here, snifflese doesn't like that at all.


So you think it's ok to go on and on about Adam doing covers but when someone points out other artists also do covers including Queen that's not ok? Not turning anything around just pointing out the ludicrousness of your argument, you can't have it both ways, you can't berate Adam for doing what tons of other artists do and not expect an example of the double standard you're applying.

As I pointed out you didn't love the cover but then you aren't a fan of his, plenty people did love it and he sang it for them.



Oh dear again. You are using a Glambert tactic that twists things that I don't even post. AL has done many covers fact, and I'm aware Queen did covers as well. Better?
Funny thing, I think it was you who said in the last few days about comparing Freddie to AL, but you are comparing Queen and AL doing covers. First off, Queen never relied so heavily on covers, they did a song or two here and there. I can't think of one n Queen show that heavily relied on covers. Lambert relies on covers, heck he has been singing them with Brian and Roger for nearly a decade. Even with his solo shows he usually manages to fit a cover or two.
Another Glambert tactic to say I'm not a fan of AL's even though I have said very recently, in the last couple of days, even hours sgo that I really like Feel Something. I guess that doesn't make me a fan in your eyes. Alightyear then, sorry I don't fawn over the guy enough to be called a fan.
I wish you didn't resort to shitty Glambert tactics with me here. Very telling that you do so.
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Iron Butterfly wrote:


Oh dear again. You are using a Glambert tactic that twists things that I don't even post. AL has done many covers fact, and I'm aware Queen did covers as well. Better?
Funny thing, I think it was you who said in the last few days about comparing Freddie to AL, but you are comparing Queen and AL doing covers. First off, Queen never relied so heavily on covers, they did a song or two here and there. I can't think of one n Queen show that heavily relied on covers. Lambert relies on covers, heck he has been singing them with Brian and Roger for nearly a decade. Even with his solo shows he usually manages to fit a cover or two.
Another Glambert tactic to say I'm not a fan of AL's even though I have said very recently, in the last couple of days, even hours sgo that I really like Feel Something. I guess that doesn't make me a fan in your eyes. Alightyear then, sorry I don't fawn over the guy enough to be called a fan.
I wish you didn't resort to shitty Glambert tactics with me here. Very telling that you do so.


I'm not twisting anything I'm sticking to facts and the facts are that plenty of artists including Queen do covers during live shows. In 1973 Queen did five covers during the show and one again as a reprise (Jailhouse Rock). I'm not comparing them doing covers I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of calling one artist for doing something and giving another a free pass to another for the exact same thing, that's nothing to do with comparing.

Adam is touring WITH QAL as their frontman, that's not doing covers the same way as an artist covering others in their own show, how on earth can you not make that distinction?

Liking the odd song of an artist is not being a fan per se, there's plenty one off songs by artists I like but would never class myself was a fan of them in general and by that I mean I don't follow their career, don't watch their vids on YT and don't go to see them live and don't invest any time or energy in knowing or caring what they're up to all the time. Adam has die hard fans who follow his career closely, who go to shows, who love most of what he does and they're the fans he's entertaining so if he does things other people don't care for it doesn't matter, they aren't the audience his shows and music is aimed at. No idea how that comment could be construed as a glambert tactic.





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rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:


Oh dear again. You are using a Glambert tactic that twists things that I don't even post. AL has done many covers fact, and I'm aware Queen did covers as well. Better?
Funny thing, I think it was you who said in the last few days about comparing Freddie to AL, but you are comparing Queen and AL doing covers. First off, Queen never relied so heavily on covers, they did a song or two here and there. I can't think of one n Queen show that heavily relied on covers. Lambert relies on covers, heck he has been singing them with Brian and Roger for nearly a decade. Even with his solo shows he usually manages to fit a cover or two.
Another Glambert tactic to say I'm not a fan of AL's even though I have said very recently, in the last couple of days, even hours sgo that I really like Feel Something. I guess that doesn't make me a fan in your eyes. Alightyear then, sorry I don't fawn over the guy enough to be called a fan.
I wish you didn't resort to shitty Glambert tactics with me here. Very telling that you do so.


I'm not twisting anything I'm sticking to facts and the facts are that plenty of artists including Queen do covers during live shows. In 1973 Queen did five covers during the show and one again as a reprise (Jailhouse Rock). I'm not comparing them doing covers I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of calling one artist for doing something and giving another a free pass to another for the exact same thing, that's nothing to do with comparing.

Adam is touring WITH QAL as their frontman, that's not doing covers the same way as an artist covering others in their own show, how on earth can you not make that distinction?

Liking the odd song of an artist is not being a fan per se, there's plenty one off songs by artists I like but would never class myself was a fan of them in general and by that I mean I don't follow their career, don't watch their vids on YT and don't go to see them live and don't invest any time or energy in knowing or caring what they're up to all the time. Adam has die hard fans who follow his career closely, who go to shows, who love most of what he does and they're the fans he's entertaining so if he does things other people don't care for it doesn't matter, they aren't the audience his shows and music is aimed at. No idea how that comment could be construed as a glambert tactic.





You did twist things that wasn't even in my posts, it's there what we both said. I never even said it wasn't ok to point out that other artists, including Queen did covers as well. I'm well aware. One of my favorite bands recently did a Queen cover...one, not heavily relying on doing them.
I stand by that I think AL relies heavily on doing covers songs. I'm also osteoporosis certain need will include a cover or two in his upcoming solo shows. Maybe even a Queen one; -).
AL does sing covers with Brian and Roger.
Genuine question, what makes an AL fan in your opinion? I don't blindly support everything an artist does. Nor do I dig and share personal info about my favorite artists.
I'm not a glambert or even an AL fan compared to some people. I'm ok with that. I say what I don't like, and I say what I do like, goes for every artist. I think I would actually put AL in my top 150 artists of the last few years. There is much more music I like more than him, guess what, I'm ok with that too. That might not make a fan in your eyes so be it.
Glambert tactics, there are two people here who purposely twist things that I don't say in my posts, it must be a kick i guess. Glambert tactics are the ones who say I'm not an AL fan. They do that trying to make me look bad. I know we disagree rockchic, but at least discuss or debate what in actullay in my posts. It's a well worn tactic of the two Glamberts here to twist as much as possible about me, I almost am sure someone will come along to say I hate AL, I'm negative etc.
BTW, I went and looked. On youtube there is a documentary of sorts about AL's glamnation tour, there's a catch, it has to be paid to be able to see it. I've not watched it, so I can't tell you what is in it. There is also a playlist of the Glamnation tour from Indianapolis from 2010, it's in parts however.
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SweetCaroline wrote:

Icy have you ever been to a LIVE show for anyone? It is a whole different experience than watching on TV or DVD or YouTube.

I repeat Adam’s glamnation shows were mesmerizing. And the audience went bonkers for him at the American Idol summer tour I went to in 2009 when he performed a Bowie medley, Starlight and Whole Lotta Love.



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Holly2003 wrote:

Fred didn't have to be perfect every night. He was a rock singer in a rock band. His job was to put on a show, make good music, energise the crowd etc. It wasn't his job to win a singing contest every night so that people 30 years later could point out every wrong note. I doubt anyone else will ever match what Fred achieved in his life.


Absolutely agree, my three favourite front men from back then were Freddie, Steve Perry and David Lee Roth.

Roth had an amazing hold over an audience, both with Van Halen and the tours around his first two solo albums, but he was probably the worst singer fronting an arena band ever. Did that matter? Not if you were a fan and went to and enjoyed the shows.

Steve Perry was amazing because of his voice, he was able to perform at a level most could only look too.

And Freddie who was amazing at while playing on big stages to huge audience could some how bring the whole venue close to him, how did he do that? No idea. It was the opposite of Roth or mayb Paul Stanley who created a huge party atmosphere and made them selves the centre of it.

Freddie had an incredible voice but wan always able to deliver his full range but always delivered a full performance.

As I said I agree with what you say, however someone keeps comparing two singers and when that comparison becomes about actual singing then becomes more than just how they perform a show.
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Adam wasn’t appealing only to Glamberts in those 110 Glam Nation shows. I was amazed at the diversity of the people in the line that wrapped around the block at the first show I went to in Columbus. Inside the venue I was surprised by the guys standing near me who were with wives or girlfriends and were cheering as loud as I was. Every show was a standout, not just one or two because Adam is never boring and changes up his delivery of each song.

rockchic, there is a professional video for purchase of the Glam Nation Show he did in Indianapolis during that tour.
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To end this dispute Freddie has won many many polls as the greatest male singer ever, even if he never had vocal training so just shows you do not need vocal coaches to be the worlds best, and Freddie is proof of that one.
Mercury will be forever loved and adored as a rock n roll legend where as Adam will not get the accolades Freddie rightfully got.
For a start Adam is only a Z-lister living the rock n roll lifestyle thanks to crazy Brian May.
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runner_70 wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote:

MisterCosmicc

Adam's a trained singer, eh? Freddie's not. He didn't need training wheels.
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Well he obviously did, and because he wasn't trained his voice suffered. That's why vocally Friday night at Wembley is better than Saturday on the magic tour.

Most of The Crazy tour is better than a lot of the other 1979 gigs. It's why whole tours are inconsistent going from brilliant to average.

Freddie had a great voice but lacked the skill to use it and take care of it professionally. Compare trained opera singers, who often perform five nights a week and use their full range.

Lambert is trained to a point, mind that point allows him to use his voice at a consistent professional level.

Freddie couldn't do that live, so maybe "training wheels" was what he should have thought about.



There you have it again. Fucking Glamtarts visiting a QUEEN noticeboard and slamming Freddie for being not capable of singing properly while the asshat Lamebird is hyped to death. He lacked skill in 1979, one of those years (1979-1981 being his peak) where his voice completey peaked? And some fucking Glamtart asshole is coming to this board talking about Freddie being not capable of singing? How delusional can you fucking pricks get? You fucking tranny idol is not even a musician let alone a singer. He is an EMO screamer with a paperthin shit voice destroying others songs and making a career out of being a cover crooner. Gimme a break really. Hitting high notes is not equal to good singing. When I hear this tool yodeling at the end of TYMD like someone whose nuts get slapped I have to vomit.

And you really wonder why Glamtarts are hated on Queen boards?? Really????

Get the fuck out of here like sniff did.


Replying at your level and using phrases you like. . .

You fuck off you fucked up ass wipe. You're too narrow minded to see or accept the bigger picture.

And you acting like a stupid idiotic fuck crying that I'm not a Queen fan or that I'm a Glambert, fuck you you little fuck wit I was buying Queen albums and going to gigs before you were born.

You're full of shit and you know it little rocker boy. Go and write your shit reviews about music and artists you don't understand for people who don't give a fuck. Try letting people enjoy what they like and while your doing that maybe you could look into getting an intelligence transplant.

There are people here who know far more about the sudjects that are talked about on this site, there are people with far more adjective views than anything you've ever contributed.

Take you're fucked attitude and twisted views and fuck off little Weckwerth you're a filthy stain on the Queen and Q+Al communities.







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SweetCaroline wrote:

Adam wasn’t appealing only to Glamberts in those 110 Glam Nation shows. I was amazed at the diversity of the people in the line that wrapped around the block at the first show I went to in Columbus. Inside the venue I was surprised by the guys standing near me who were with wives or girlfriends and were cheering as loud as I was. Every show was a standout, not just one or two because Adam is never boring and changes up his delivery of each song.

rockchic, there is a professional video for purchase of the Glam Nation Show he did in Indianapolis during that tour.




Who was he appealing to? Rap, country fans as well?
Concerts usually do attract people from all walks of life, you make it seem that's something new.
How do you know every show was a standout when you didn't attend all of them? Do tell.
I mentioned an AL glamnation concert from Indianapolis that's available to watch for free on youtube. Oh well, not good enough coming from me, I suppose.
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SweetCaroline wrote:

Adam wasn’t appealing only to Glamberts in those 110 Glam Nation shows. I was amazed at the diversity of the people in the line that wrapped around the block at the first show I went to in Columbus. Inside the venue I was surprised by the guys standing near me who were with wives or girlfriends and were cheering as loud as I was. Every show was a standout, not just one or two because Adam is never boring and changes up his delivery of each song.

rockchic, there is a professional video for purchase of the Glam Nation Show he did in Indianapolis during that tour.



Ah right, I knew there was an audio live album but didn't realize there was a video version as well, cheers for that.

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ST17 wrote:

For a start Adam is only a Z-lister living the rock n roll lifestyle thanks to crazy Brian May.



Do try not to live under a rock, Z-lister lol, you're clueless.