No Queen Adam Lambert Live Releases

snifflese wrote:

One more thing for Icy and Cosmic. They seem to dismiss any opinion for whatever reason, if it isn't like their own. You two seem to think my Kids (mid-thirties and older, still called kids here in the US no matter their age) can not be brought into a conversation because their opinions don't count. Not sure why, as any concert goer or music lover can express an opinion. You two certainly do and I am willing to bet my kid's musical expertise weigh outshines your expertise, not that I have seen much evidence of that, esp from Icy. So far I have seen her expound on crowns and capes and important Queen dates, not much else and not very impressive for someone who wants to dictate everyone else's opinion.

Here is the reason my kid's opinions count. One had classical piano lessons for 7 years up until his Sr year when things got too busy. He did the piano guild exams and performances always with an outstanding. I am not sure if Icy has ever had to memorize an hours worth of classical music to play by yourself in front of judges. I doubt it greatly. He also was in a large school band in the percussion section and can play all the instruments, mostly drums. That was another 4 years worth of band musical training. He also played for fun in metal bands in the community. My other son had the same kind of training for guitar and bass, although he did not play in the school band. He plays by ear and can play any song. He was in a couple of semi-professional bands that had gigs in big cities around us. They were also carted along with their friends by me to all the rock concerts and shows in the area. We have seen Iron Maiden, Ozzy, Judas Priest, Slip Knot, Rage against the Machine and numerous other bands, so they have had their share of live concerts. They have continued seeing live bands as adults. So, I would venture to say that their opinion is at least as valid as Icy's, who I doubt has anywhere near their musical bona fides and the most important thing is that one of those 2 sons was able to go with me to see QAL in 2014 and 2017 and was able to experience it first hand. Not sure how she can consider her more than likely very limited musical knowledge to be more valid than theirs. Knowing a few Queen facts does not make it so and I have seen no evidence of any great knowledge of music in general or about Queen, other that a few random things she always says. Get off your high horses and let everyone have their say without sneering at them and making fun of people (particulary Cosmic in this one instance). If you can have an opinion, so can I and I can share my son't opinions also. Just like SC can bring over tweets and reviews, which are often from people in the business or some old Queen fans. But it doesn't matter who they are, as their opinion also counts. Most importantly, they were at the concert. so they can have a much more valid opinion than someone who never has attended a show.

What do you get from twisting things so much? Your son's are not here posting.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

snifflese wrote:

Cosmic, you never have a clue what you are talking about. You seem to talk out of your butt, anything that is negative about Adam. I guess you haven't read many of the GLOWING, MAGNIFICENT Reviews from the concerts where they talk about the fans that range from 8-90 and how you see whole families with grandparents, parents and kids who go to QAL. Queen's music is so timeless that it appeals to all age groups. I imagine SC's son and family went with her. One of my 2 sons accompanied me twice and although he was not predisposed to like QAL, he was really impressed and loved it after the first show in 2014. He went with me to a concert the second time round in 2017 and found them even better. He would have gone to the Rhapsody tour very happily, but he now lives in Asia. Instead, one of my younger son's friends went with me. He said it was one of the best shows he had ever seen and his livelihood is photographing rock concerts. He has met many, many of the stars and seen their concerts! That is the way it works at a QAL concert! People become fans after attending one of their outstanding shows and it is all ages and lots of moms and dads with their kids!!

Caps again. Seriously you put too much stock in the reviews that is only praise.
Why the heck are you and SweetCaroline bring up what your son thinks? Is that the latest way to post by bringing up what your sons say?

This is what I said about it, snifflese.

You don't value any opinion but your own and you neglected to show all the rest of the thread with you and Cosmic yukking it up about our kids and you have had things to say previously. That was your last post previous to my comments and I don't see why you would care whose opinion it is. At least one of them was at two of the concerts.

snifflese wrote:

You don't value any opinion but your own and you neglected to show all the rest of the thread with you and Cosmic yukking it up about our kids and you have had things to say previously. That was your last post previous to my comments and I don't see why you would care whose opinion it is. At least one of them was at two of the concerts.

How do you know about opinions thst I value or not? Oh, I didn't show the rest of thread you say, and of course you will hold that against me, even though you did the same recently.
You put too much stock in glowing reviews, praise etc. That's what matters to you as long as there is praise, nothing else matters.
So, your son at the concert. With you and he liked it. What am I supposed to mod with that "information", change my mind suddenly based on thoughts on someone who isn't even a poster here? I've said many times only the music can change my mind, not the glowing articles, tweets etc.

Nobody can change your mind and no one is trying to. Just keep the nasty remarks about other people's opinions out of the discussion and everyone might be able to get along. You can scroll over glowing articles, just don't read them. But people have a right to post such things just like you can rain on everyone's parade, it just doesn't have to get ugly with the stuff you normally say to them. I don't put stock into glowing reviews, etc. BUT I have seen 3 of their concerts and IMO those glowing reviews and tweets are exactly on point. Millions of people all over the internet say the same things:

1) They can't believe how great the concert is
2). They can't believe how great Brian and Roger are, esp Brian playing like that at his age.
3). They can't believe how good Adam is with them and how he won them over in spite of his not being Freddie.
4). They can't believe how wonderful Adam's voice is and often mention
that they don't understand why he is not more well known for his voice which they never thought could be that good.
5). Many, Many say it was hands down the best concert they have ever attended.

Those are the facts, if you have followed the tweets, reviews, blogs and newspaper articles over the last so many years. That is why they play more and more concerts and bigger venues. They could not be doing that if they were as lousy as you think they are. You just don't like Adam and it colors your objectivity and that of some of the others on here. Most people can separate Adam and Freddie, but somehow you can't. The two have nothing to do with one another, as it is a different time and a different band. People liking QAL in no way takes a thing away from Freddie, but for you it does somehow. I don't know what to do about that one. It makes you a very negative person which is a shame.

snifflese wrote:

Nobody can change your mind and no one is trying to. Just keep the nasty remarks about other people's opinions out of the discussion and everyone might be able to get along. You can scroll over glowing articles, just don't read them. But people have a right to post such things just like you can rain on everyone's parade, it just doesn't have to get ugly with the stuff you normally say to them. I don't put stock into glowing reviews, etc. BUT I have seen 3 of their concerts and IMO those glowing reviews and tweets are exactly on point. Millions of people all over the internet say the same things:

1) They can't believe how great the concert is
2). They can't believe how great Brian and Roger are, esp Brian playing like that at his age.
3). They can't believe how good Adam is with them and how he won them over in spite of his not being Freddie.
4). They can't believe how wonderful Adam's voice is and often mention
that they don't understand why he is not more well known for his voice which they never thought could be that good.
5). Many, Many say it was hands down the best concert they have ever attended.

Those are the facts, if you have followed the tweets, reviews, blogs and newspaper articles over the last so many years. That is why they play more and more concerts and bigger venues. They could not be doing that if they were as lousy as you think they are. You just don't like Adam and it colors your objectivity and that of some of the others on here. Most people can separate Adam and Freddie, but somehow you can't. The two have nothing to do with one another, as it is a different time and a different band. People liking QAL in no way takes a thing away from Freddie, but for you it does somehow. I don't know what to do about that one. It makes you a very negative person which is a shame.

Your son's don't post here, so their opinions hold much weight, in my opinion...how is that nasty?? There you go, off into a rant again.
You are the one who twists so much, you turn yourself into knots.
I don't care what all the glowing reviews, tweets, articles say, I have a mind of my own. I can use it. I don't think AL is the best singer/live singer...because sometimes much more goes into the music than just hitting notes.
Freddie and AL have something to do with each other, especially as one is filling his pockets because of the other man's legacy. One has been making a career out of singing his and Queen's music for nearly a decade ..so my dear, they do have things to do with each other. Are you for real here? AL wouldn't and couldn't sell out all these venues solo wise.
You are a very bitter, envious person regarding Freddie. You are so isolated in your AL bubble, I feel sorry for you.

snifflese, it is impossible to deal with nasty, brain-dead imbeciles! They don’t do that at QOL.

SweetCaroline wrote:

snifflese, it is impossible to deal with nasty, brain-dead imbeciles! They don’t do that at QOL.

Speaking of brain dead, says you who cant even tnink for yourself, so you rely on other people's words to do it for you.
What does QOL have to do with anything here? I don't think MisterCosmicc is a member over there.
You don't do things on QOL the way you do here, I wonder why that is? You wouldn't get away with it, that's why.

Then there is no reason to ever have any interaction with you, Icy. Which is what I would really like. You have your opinion and I have mine. Go find some other like minded person and chat with them.

No, I am not bitter and envious of Freddie (don't understand that statement at all!) but I am not a nut job about Freddie and can separate the two, as it is a different time and a different band, just like I just told you above. I can appreciate all the wonderful things he did for Queen and I loved the music back then. I can also appreciate the QAL resurgence and how much joy it brings to a lot of people who wanted to see Queen one more time or never got to see them, but can appreciate what they are doing now as QAL. This is as good as it gets, since Freddie is not walking back on that stage. You have to appreciate what is available right now and not hold it against them that Freddie is no longer singing. That is totally unreasonable and unfair to the band.

snifflese wrote:

Then there is no reason to ever have any interaction with you, Icy. Which is what I would really like. You have your opinion and I have mine. Go find some other like minded person and chat with them.

No, I am not bitter and envious of Freddie (don't understand that statement at all!) but I am not a nut job about Freddie and can separate the two, as it is a different time and a different band, just like I just told you above. I can appreciate all the wonderful things he did for Queen and I loved the music back then. I can also appreciate the QAL resurgence and how much joy it brings to a lot of people who wanted to see Queen one more time or never got to see them, but can appreciate what they are doing now as QAL. This is as good as it gets, since Freddie is not walking back on that stage. You have to appreciate what is available right now and not hold it against them that Freddie is no longer singing. That is totally unreasonable and unfair to the band.

Why don't you go find someone who thinks exact like you and go chat with them? Oh wait, that's what you want and need this subforum to be.
You do know that you offer fk all, here on QZ , except your throwing shit my way and your defense of SweetCaroline. You don't even want to discuss Freddie or Queen.
Not buying it for a second n that you loved the music back then. People usually do discuss the things they love on a message board, even if it's from years ago, esp on a Queen board. You don't even discuss it, do yea not buying you loved the music back then.
I'm aware Freddie isn't going to walk on on stage. I don't think you are aware of what that man gave the world and left the world with some very good, even great talent and music. I doubt you could list 10 deep cuts from the Queen back catalogue without having to look it up.
Wtf are you getting at now? I don't hold anything against "them" because Freddie is not here. Again, are you for real? What a shitty thing to imply about me. You are the one being unfair here, all out spiteful.

OK, Lady, what do you ever discuss since you are the biggest Freddie lover on here? I have not seen one tid bit of info about Freddie or Queen or anything unless you were throwing something in someone's face about dates and crowns and capes. You are quite something. It is just like you telling me to go post on the Queen forums and I couldn't find any recent posts from you. You gotta walk the walk to talk the talk and you are a big hypocrite since you do none of the things you keep telling me to do.

You do hold it against Roger and Brian that they are still performing and with Adam of all people. Don't give me that because I don't believe you for a second.

snifflese wrote:

OK, Lady, what do you ever discuss since you are the biggest Freddie lover on here? I have not seen one tid bit of info about Freddie or Queen or anything unless you were throwing something in someone's face about dates and crowns and capes. You are quite something. It is just like you telling me to go post on the Queen forums and I couldn't find any recent posts from you. You gotta walk the walk to talk the talk and you are a big hypocrite since you do none of the things you keep telling me to do.

You do hold it against Roger and Brian that they are still performing and with Adam of all people. Don't give me that because I don't believe you for a second.

In a rage I see.
I do discuss Queen and Freddie a heck of alot more than you ever did, or ever will. I'm a fan of his, is that wrong on Queen boards, it's not. You claim you have read my posts on QOL for 10 years, if you really did read my posts, then you'd know I discussed Freddie and Queen. I don't do it as much here...but you can't do it at all. You are the hypocrite here telling me to post about Freddie and Queen when you don't do it yourself. You are unbelievable .
You are batshit crazy here. I never stated I hold it against Brian and Roger for still performing. If I held it against them, I wouldn't want them to continue to make solo music etc. You are just pissed of because I like more music, and that includes Queen and Freddie, more than I like Lambert and Q+AL.
That's your problem, Lady. One if many that you have about me.

You are absolutely tone deaf and thick as a brick, Icy. I don't want to discuss Queen and Freddie, what don't you understand about that? It is not as if I haven't told you this many, many times. There is a world of difference between you who loves Freddie and is always talking about him and yet I have never seen a post that has something interesting about him or his music that you have written. I have been stuck reading your posts for years and they are always the same, no Queen info or anything substantial, always like the crap you post here. You should be the person posting about your love of him and his music on these boards. Then you tell me to, although I have told you that I have no desire to do so ever and somehow I am a hypocrite because I don't?? In what universe does that even make any sense? Wow, I can't believe that you would say anything so ludicrous!

You don't like them performing with Adam because he is too close to Freddie for your taste. That IMO is the crux of the matter. If Roger and Brian toured with someone that wasn't all that great and they weren't as big as they are now, you would have no issue. You don't like their success and you resent Adam because he is part of what is so successful with their playing together. I could care less who you like or don't like. That is your prerogative. I just have a problem with your lording it over everyone, as if this were your domain and we all need to kowtow to you and we are not allowed to have any opinions unless they parrot yours or we will incur the wrath of Icy. It kind of sucks the joy out of this place totally.

snifflese wrote:

You are absolutely tone deaf and thick as a brick, Icy. I don't want to discuss Queen and Freddie, what don't you understand about that? It is not as if I haven't told you this many, many times. There is a world of difference between you who loves Freddie and is always talking about him and yet I have never seen a post that has something interesting about him or his music that you have written. I have been stuck reading your posts for years and they are always the same, no Queen info or anything substantial, always like the crap you post here. You should be the person posting about your love of him and his music on these boards. Then you tell me to, although I have told you that I have no desire to do so ever and somehow I am a hypocrite because I don't?? In what universe does that even make any sense? Wow, I can't believe that you would say anything so ludicrous!

You don't like them performing with Adam because he is too close to Freddie for your taste. That IMO is the crux of the matter. If Roger and Brian toured with someone that wasn't all that great and they weren't as big as they are now, you would have no issue. You don't like their success and you resent Adam because he is part of what is so successful with their playing together. I could care less who you like or don't like. That is your prerogative. I just have a problem with your lording it over everyone, as if this were your domain and we all need to kowtow to you and we are not allowed to have any opinions unless they parrot yours or we will incur the wrath of Icy. It kind of sucks the joy out of this place totally.

You have stated you don't want to discuss Freddie or Queen ( because in your mind ) you think you will be criticised by Queen fans here. Yet, you lecture us and give history about Q+AL and AL.
You ate going for me because you have never seen my posts in Queen threads. I doubt you looked hard enough. It's ironic you say you have read my posts for 10 years, and you say I have nothing substantial to say. Pretty rich coming from you...who can't even be bothered to discuss music or a y thing else in the first place. You are only here to defend your fellow Glambert and to go after me, even trying to get others to take your side. That's all you ever do.
AL is nowhere near being too close to Freddie, that's a fact. Let's compare their careers shall we? One who was groundbreaking in many ways, the other who is still relying on Freddie's and Queen's legacy to make a buck. So, you see, they aren't "too close" at all, you keep trying to convince yourself of that. You poor deluded thing.
I've seen your wrath more than once. You know how you once said I'm the Queen bitch? You are one of two Glambert bitches here who is way too over sensitive, flies into a rage over nothing to put it mildly. Come back to tell me what to do, where I can post when you can do it yourself.

Snifflese That was a ridiculous comment when you said "You dont like them performing with Adam because he is too close to Freddie for your taste" that is just insulting Freddie.
Adam could never be Freddie in a billion years he more like Boy George or a camp Bono.
Freddie has talent he is multi mega talented and would blow Adam off that stage if he was still here.