I don’t know if Kris even performs anymore. He has left L.A. and gone back home to Arkansas. He is a nice family man with at least 2, maybe 3 children. What is memorable is that he and Adam became really good friends on Idol and were both rooting for each other in the finale.
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runner_70 wrote:
The Real Wizard wrote:
If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go.
Deep Purple have Gillan Paice and Glover you stupid clueless Clown. I am sure you will return with "that Gillan was not on the first album".
Again another proof you have no clue when it comes to rock music
Proof that you know nothing. Ian Paice is the only member of the original lineup still in Deep Purple.
Who's the clueless clown now.
snifflese wrote:
At this point in time, who cares? To me the result is in the pudding and 11 years later the outcome favored the most talented which was Adam. Kris was a very nice homegrown kind of guy and he sang well, but obviously not a star. I agree with RC's assessment of the situation and I believe there was more than a bit of homophobia. Solid conservative people seeing Adam kissing his BF on his Fox show did not do him any favors at all. Nowadays it wouldn't raise any eyebrows, but back then it was quite a surprise. It is amazing the strides that have been made for gay people in a little over 10 years, which is a very good thing!
If people wouldn't care, they wouldn't come up with excuses and use homophobic as a "reason why" he didn't win At least rockchic put a new slanthread on things, some of which I never read before.
I don't remember AL ever kissing his boyfriend on the Fox show?
Thanks for not noticing my post above, I guess a retraction that you got it wrong would be too much for you do. Stop running here stirring the shit and spreading the shit what you think happens on QOL. You were wrong, even with the fact you won't admit to it. Next time have to guts to do it over there at least.
SweetCaroline wrote:
Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!
AL wasn't a rock star at that point. He isn't one at this point.
There was a picture of Adam kissing a boyfriend which Bill O"Reilly chose to share on his 8:00 News Show. It made quite a stir and was in other media for quite a while. I think that since Danny and Kris were Christian conservatives their block stayed together to vote for Kris once Danny was out, especially after Adam had been outed. And of course, Bill shared a few thoughts, not really helpful to Adam. This had a huge effect IMO. I know you don't believe in homophobia concerning Adam, but people weren'tas blase about it as they are now. Adam shared a few thoughts recently on how homophobia affected his career. He is a pretty honest guy and if he felt that way, I am pretty sure it was that way. I could see the homophobia myself. And it is not an excuse. What he did on AMA just about ruined him and that was due to homophobia, so there were several instances and none of them affected his career positively.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bill-oreilly-experiences_n_184788
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bill-oreilly-experiences_n_184788
MisterCosmicc wrote:
SweetCaroline wrote:
Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!
Who cares about Kris, I don’t even know who the Hell he is, it’s irrelevant. Adam’s not a rocker.
Both irrelevant casting victims. One is now singing with two pensioners who ave clearly lost the plot
runner_70 wrote:
MisterCosmicc wrote:
SweetCaroline wrote:
Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!
Who cares about Kris, I don’t even know who the Hell he is, it’s irrelevant. Adam’s not a rocker.
Both irrelevant casting victims. One is now singing with two pensioners who ave clearly lost the plot
Like yourself
SweetCaroline wrote:
Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!
WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is doing cheesy Dance music solo has no history as a rock musician and simply has no voice to sing rock songs. He is a high pitched screamer doing covers
Young Music Fan wrote:
runner_70 wrote:
MisterCosmicc wrote:
SweetCaroline wrote:
Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!
Who cares about Kris, I don’t even know who the Hell he is, it’s irrelevant. Adam’s not a rocker.
Both irrelevant casting victims. One is now singing with two pensioners who have clearly lost the plot
Like yourself
I m not singing with two old pensioners and am no casting vicitim
runner_70 wrote:
WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamer
So you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch.
If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use.
snifflese wrote:
There was a picture of Adam kissing a boyfriend which Bill O"Reilly chose to share on his 8:00 News Show. It made quite a stir and was in other media for quite a while. I think that since Danny and Kris were Christian conservatives their block stayed together to vote for Kris once Danny was out, especially after Adam had been outed. And of course, Bill shared a few thoughts, not really helpful to Adam. This had a huge effect IMO. I know you don't believe in homophobia concerning Adam, but people weren'tas blase about it as they are now. Adam shared a few thoughts recently on how homophobia affected his career. He is a pretty honest guy and if he felt that way, I am pretty sure it was that way. I could see the homophobia myself. And it is not an excuse. What he did on AMA just about ruined him and that was due to homophobia, so there were several instances and none of them affected his career positively.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bill-oreilly-experiences_n_184788
LOL. Looks like some AL fans had conspiracies right from the start and they still hang on to it.
He didn't win because more people voted for Kris Allen. Why does it have to a conspiracy about homophobia? I think too many Glamberts use thst as an excuse. Even after all this time.
It's very telling that you will not or can not admit you were wrong about me and QOL. You fkd up big time. Next time try thinking before you spew and spread your shit.
My comments are embedded in your reply to attempt to make this more readable.
I see that you conceded that Adam is a polarizing artist, so perhaps there may be more people beyond a few vocal QZ-ers that dislike Adam :)
I see that you conceded that Adam is a polarizing artist, so perhaps there may be more people beyond a few vocal QZ-ers that dislike Adam :)
rockchic65 wrote:
Saint Jiub wrote:
You are correct. The better singer did not win. The best entertainer won.
You seriously think Kris was technically the better singer?
I SAID THAT THAT THE BETTER SINGER DID not WIN, BUT I SAID THE BETTER ENTERTAINER WON.
And why are you pulling up an article from 2009? Bored and want to start another shit fest post is my guess, can't think of any other reason, well only one but that's even sadder than this version.
I PULLED UP THIS ARTICLE IN REACTION TO SC SAYING SHE DID NOT GIVE TWO FUX IN EFFORT TO SHUT DOWN THIS TOPIC.
And you do realize that for every post like that there was an opposite one, this was an opinion by the writer of the article and in no way an actual fact,
OF COURSE i REALIZE THAT. HOWEVER, THE ARTICLE DID ADD OPINIONS THAT MATCH SOME QUEEN FANS:
"The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week."
"He never gave the audience a reason to care for him. Girls crying because you are so super duper awesome is no indication of a winner (see Clay Aiken for a prime example)."
.......
Adam was and is a polarizing artist, there were always gonna be people who didn't like what he did but end of the day he made the final despite what that article claims so if it were true he'd have lost support long before the very end of the competition.
THE ARTICLE STATED ADAM'S PERFORMANCE STAYED ON A PLATEAU, WHILE CHRIS IMPROVED AND
"started to win over the audience with his charming smile, clean cut good looks and growing performance personality."
rockchic65 wrote:
runner_70 wrote:
WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamer
So you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch.
If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use.
As stated in the link I posted:
"The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week."
Are Robert Plant and Axl Rose known for squealing SUSTAINED notes? In my opinion, Adam's overly frequent use of warbling vibrato trills are not typical of rock singers.
Saint Jiub wrote:
My comments are embedded in your reply to attempt to make this more readable.
I see that you conceded that Adam is a polarizing artist, so perhaps there may be more people beyond a few vocal QZ-ers that dislike Adam :)
rockchic65 wrote:
Saint Jiub wrote:
You are correct. The better singer did not win. The best entertainer won.
You seriously think Kris was technically the better singer?
I SAID THAT THAT THE BETTER SINGER DID not WIN, BUT I SAID THE BETTER ENTERTAINER WON.
And why are you pulling up an article from 2009? Bored and want to start another shit fest post is my guess, can't think of any other reason, well only one but that's even sadder than this version.
I PULLED UP THIS ARTICLE IN REACTION TO SC SAYING SHE DID NOT GIVE TWO FUX IN EFFORT TO SHUT DOWN THIS TOPIC.
And you do realize that for every post like that there was an opposite one, this was an opinion by the writer of the article and in no way an actual fact,
OF COURSE i REALIZE THAT. HOWEVER, THE ARTICLE DID ADD OPINIONS THAT MATCH SOME QUEEN FANS:
"The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week."
"He never gave the audience a reason to care for him. Girls crying because you are so super duper awesome is no indication of a winner (see Clay Aiken for a prime example)."
.......
Adam was and is a polarizing artist, there were always gonna be people who didn't like what he did but end of the day he made the final despite what that article claims so if it were true he'd have lost support long before the very end of the competition.
THE ARTICLE STATED ADAM'S PERFORMANCE STAYED ON A PLATEAU, WHILE CHRIS IMPROVED AND
"started to win over the audience with his charming smile, clean cut good looks and growing performance personality."
Sorry I misunderstood the first comment. I don't think Kris was a better performer personally but singing style and performance are subjective so he clearly was to some people.
I wouldn't say Adam's performance stayed on a plateau either really but he did start off strong so didn't have as much space to "grow" as some other contestants.
On those shows I suppose the audience likes to see someone a bit raw with not much stage persona and watch them get better as the weeks progress, there wasn't much of that with Adam since he was so used to performing already.
Saint Jiub wrote:
rockchic65 wrote:
runner_70 wrote:
WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamer
So you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch.
If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use.
As stated in the link I posted:
"The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week."
Are Robert Plant and Axl Rose known for squealing SUSTAINED notes? In my opinion, Adam's overly frequent use of warbling vibrato trills are not typical of rock singers.
Don't know about sustained but they could both squeal out the high notes. Judging by the amount of rock and metal screams compilation vids on YT it's pretty prevalent in rock and metal to scream sustained high notes.
Adam mixes rock style screams with a more operatic style of high notes or trills as you say, some like it some don't and for all the ones who got tired of it there were a lot that didn't and a lot of his fans like him doing those notes plus when he doesn't people start saying "he's lost range or can't hit the notes anymore", seems he can't please everyone if he does them leaves them out, gaining a fan base on that show by doing a lot of that type thing means he's kind of set himself up to sort of have to do that some of the time to please those fans who love the sustained notes.