Vocal Battle -there you go....

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote:

Both of my boys love metal music and the Nordic metal music in particular with lots of high notes and screams (which Adam really doesn't do - he holds notes out very melodiously)
and they both think Adam could more than hold his own singing that kind of music. They had extensive music training and were in bands and know music. There are many kinds of rock and metal and different kinds of voices for each. I love that kind of metal myself and that might be one of the reasons I appreciate Adam. I also love classical and opera and Adam's voice ticks that box also. Many of Queen's songs have a classical operatic style to them and those are some of my favorites for Adam to sing. SCC and songs like that are not what he does best, but he still does a more than credible job. It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

You and SweetCaroline love using your children as talking pieces... I don’t buy it.

Yea, it's a weak way to discuss things. Might as well get them to post here *sarcasm*.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote:

Both of my boys love metal music and the Nordic metal music in particular with lots of high notes and screams (which Adam really doesn't do - he holds notes out very melodiously)
and they both think Adam could more than hold his own singing that kind of music. They had extensive music training and were in bands and know music. There are many kinds of rock and metal and different kinds of voices for each. I love that kind of metal myself and that might be one of the reasons I appreciate Adam. I also love classical and opera and Adam's voice ticks that box also. Many of Queen's songs have a classical operatic style to them and those are some of my favorites for Adam to sing. SCC and songs like that are not what he does best, but he still does a more than credible job. It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

You and SweetCaroline love using your children as talking pieces... I don’t buy it.

Yea, it's a weak way to discuss things. Might as well get them to post here *sarcasm*.

I'd never reply to them again if their kids made a video praising Adam as they claim they do, but we both know that'll never happen.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote:

Both of my boys love metal music and the Nordic metal music in particular with lots of high notes and screams (which Adam really doesn't do - he holds notes out very melodiously)
and they both think Adam could more than hold his own singing that kind of music. They had extensive music training and were in bands and know music. There are many kinds of rock and metal and different kinds of voices for each. I love that kind of metal myself and that might be one of the reasons I appreciate Adam. I also love classical and opera and Adam's voice ticks that box also. Many of Queen's songs have a classical operatic style to them and those are some of my favorites for Adam to sing. SCC and songs like that are not what he does best, but he still does a more than credible job. It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

You and SweetCaroline love using your children as talking pieces... I don’t buy it.

Yea, it's a weak way to discuss things. Might as well get them to post here *sarcasm*.

I'd never reply to them again if their kids made a video praising Adam as they claim they do, but we both know that'll never happen.

I don't even think there are kids, pretty grown from what SweetCaroline and snifflese have said. That's even worse if they were young kids.

Listen you two idiots, my kids are in their late 30's. What is wrong with you two? You and Cosmic's head are so full of shit (you fav word) that you can't see anything beyond your own limited views. You just assume everyone is lying, everyone is full of it, everyone is like the two of you and most people, thank goodness, are not. I take people at their word, as I am one of those who assumes most people are nice and if you treat them that way, they are nice to you. And you wonder, Icy, why I have a certain view of die hard Queen fans? Well, you two reinforce my negative impression daily. It is useless to try to post anything here as you ridicule other posters constantly and call them out and by the way, Icy, if you have to insert "sarcasm" the statement was pretty lame, which is most of what comes out of your mouth. Have fun taking each other down, since there will be no other people left here, which I am sure was your plan all along. All you like minded die hard Queen fans can have fun ripping each other apart when you have no Adam fans to terrorize.

snifflese wrote:

Listen you two idiots, my kids are in their late 30's. What is wrong with you two? You and Cosmic's head are so full of shit (you fav word) that you can't see anything beyond your own limited views. You just assume everyone is lying, everyone is full of it, everyone is like the two of you and most people, thank goodness, are not. I take people at their word, as I am one of those who assumes most people are nice and if you treat them that way, they are nice to you. And you wonder, Icy, why I have a certain view of die hard Queen fans? Well, you two reinforce my negative impression daily. It is useless to try to post anything here as you ridicule other posters constantly and call them out and by the way, Icy, if you have to insert "sarcasm" the statement was pretty lame, which is most of what comes out of your mouth. Have fun taking each other down, since there will be no other people left here, which I am sure was your plan all along. All you like minded die hard Queen fans can have fun ripping each other apart when you have no Adam fans to terrorize.

Rant and bitch, nothing new from you. Wipe the snot and shit from your orifices, it's oozing from you.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote:

It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

- AL + MM

I wont even think about Lamebird doing metal songs. he has ZERO rock grit in his shit voice

Find where MM does any kind of metal, he hasn't ever done SCC, Tyler used to do it and he's never done any of those type songs in his set list.

Do let us know what he's like live when you see him in his rescheduled show. You'll probably like him since his way of doing high notes is to push his voice and strain, sounds more rock to you probably.

Freddie sang from the throat. He really did. It led to problems, but his voice sounds so great. Can you argue with that?

On recordings he sounded brilliant, no question that his unique tone, style of singing (which was different than live) and ability to change his style of singing in different songs, going from something so delicate like YTMBA to TYMD shows how versatile he was but live he used a different technique and as you say it led to problems. Live is about more than just technique and when you're in the moment at a show and singing along to all the songs it's easy to ignore the fact someone is straining to hit the notes and especially when they have the kind of stage presence Freddie had so yeah it's still great but in a different way.

From a career longevity point of view not so great though, Freddie struggled through concerts like Fukuoka and Tokyo, can't have been fun for him to do regardless if the audience were having a great time.

^^^ This.

Well observed and takes nothing away from how great Freddie was but explains his limitations and how some shows/tours were effected.

Double post

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote:

It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

- AL + MM

I wont even think about Lamebird doing metal songs. he has ZERO rock grit in his shit voice

Find where MM does any kind of metal, he hasn't ever done SCC, Tyler used to do it and he's never done any of those type songs in his set list.

Do let us know what he's like live when you see him in his rescheduled show. You'll probably like him since his way of doing high notes is to push his voice and strain, sounds more rock to you probably.

Freddie sang from the throat. He really did. It led to problems, but his voice sounds so great. Can you argue with that?

On recordings he sounded brilliant, no question that his unique tone, style of singing (which was different than live) and ability to change his style of singing in different songs, going from something so delicate like YTMBA to TYMD shows how versatile he was but live he used a different technique and as you say it led to problems. Live is about more than just technique and when you're in the moment at a show and singing along to all the songs it's easy to ignore the fact someone is straining to hit the notes and especially when they have the kind of stage presence Freddie had so yeah it's still great but in a different way.

From a career longevity point of view not so great though, Freddie struggled through concerts like Fukuoka and Tokyo, can't have been fun for him to do regardless if the audience were having a great time.

He sounded perfect in concert, even when he fucked up.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

He sounded perfect in concert, even when he fucked up.

That's a bit stepfordish, don't you think?

Have you even heard the tapes from 79 and 84 where Mercury barely has a voice ?

The Real Wizard wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

He sounded perfect in concert, even when he fucked up.

That's a bit stepfordish, don't you think?

Have you even heard the tapes from 79 and 84 where Mercury barely has a voice ?

Japan was particularly bad.

@Real Wizard There is no need to knock Freddie over his voice because he was a real grafter and put more into a performance than Lambert puts into having a shit.
Mercury gave his all every performance he ever did and he worked bloody hard to please the fans all over the world.
Could you do better?

ST16 wrote:

@Real Wizard There is no need to knock Freddie over his voice because he was a real grafter and put more into a performance than Lambert puts into having a shit.
Mercury gave his all every performance he ever did and he worked bloody hard to please the fans all over the world.
Could you do better?

And so did David Lee Roth in the 70's and 80's. In fact he put more physical effort into his performances. Didn't make him a better singer than Freddie though.

And if someone is realistic enough to point to the fact that Freddie's voice wasn't flawless it doesn't mean he was bad. But someone saying Freddie was amazing and untouchable vocally 100% of the time starts to sound as unbalanced as not accepting that Lambert can actually sing.

Freddie made mistakes he is only human but he gave his all 100% and that is all a human can do!
He is still the best front man ever though and that is a fact.

Freddie didn't give his all in NZ in 1985. I was very disappointed by the concert that I had scrimped and saved to go to. Love Queen and their music, but Queen is way more than Freddie Mercury.