@Chevyman
Thank you for giving insight into you Background. Yeah, nobody wants to be considered a snitch in an environment like that…
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@MyHumanZoo
I read two other Reviews of the same new Manson book
https://www.bookforum.com/print/2602/a-conspiracy-laden-account-of-the-manson-murders-21984
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jul/07/chaos-charles-manson-cia-secret-history-sixties-tom-oneill-dan-piepenbring-review
Bob Dylan has released a new song, "Murder Most Foul". It is About the JFK assassination
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NbQkyvbw18&feature=emb_title
A couple of well-known names and ideas from conspiracy lore Pop up:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/26433-dylan-mentions-ferrie-and-banister-in-his-lyrics/#comments
@Katydy5
There are a lot of good history books and authors, but unfortunately, one cannot read all of them. The novel "The Gilded Age" gives an insight, into the times after Civil War, although sometimes in in an ironic and satirical way. The last time I read a book on American history was years ago,, "American Genesis: A Century of Invention and Technological Enthusiasm, 1870–1970" by Thomas P. Hughes. I found it interesting. It starts with the lone inventors, mostly laymen tinkering in their workshops, and progresses to the huge industrial undertakings like the Manhattan Project involving thousands of specialists and new levels of management and organization.
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Steven, Its just the environment I was subjected too as a young child till the age of 8.We were family I maybe had a aunt of no blood relation but she was in the club on down the line her folks were two .My moms parents who I eventually went to live with were Irish and catholic so they really hated the fact she picked up with a Hells Angels.They were some good times I remember my dad teaching me to play the guaitar .There was always people around for sure .Loyalty got you protection snitches got you stitches lol.So yes it was a huge adjustment living with catholic grandparents compared to carefree gypsies lol.I adore Bob Dylan I love the song tambourine Man it speaks to me in many ways.I like to read about anything on Manson he actually was trying to get a record deal with the Beach Boys and they turned him down.The man could play and sing though beautifully.Iheard that's what lead to his killing spree Sharon Tate bought the house one of the Beach Boys was living in and Charlie Manson thought he still lived there.
Hi Steven, nice to see you here on Friendly Chat!! Some people may not realize that the conversation you are continuing is actually one from the book thread that some of us participate in. I'm going to address your comment to me back over there. I do hope you'll come around here too though! We enjoy seeing old friends. I'd be very interested to hear what life is like in Germany right now.
Steven we understand just fine you talk your head off friend about what ever you want it doesnt matter the subject as long as we respect eachother.Peace my friend
@Katydy5
My understanding was that the book thread is about "As It Began" and other books on Queen. Should I reply to your post on the Civil War book here or over there?
My understanding was that the book thread is about "As It Began" and other books on Queen. Should I reply to your post on the Civil War book here or over there?
Steven, this is a chit chat group you can discuss anything you want nobody is in charge.Books are welcome here too chit chat could be anything
Oh gosh Steven, it doesn't matter either way. We had been discussing non-fic and Manson on the book thread and I just thought maybe you'd gotten confused. There is a discussion going on about the Hince book over there too, but it's surely not limited to that. I was happy to see you poke your head in here!!
@stevendabudgie, I'm so glad you posted here on the thread! I remember your name from a previous thread back in 2019. You had recommended the 2013 Oscar-nominated Best Documentary by David France "How to Survive a Plague." I saw the 2-hour documentary on YouTube and was absolutely blown away by it. I was so moved. It was the 1st time I learned of AIDS activist, Larry Kramer, and ACT UP. I remember the footage of the AIDS Quilt sprawled out on the National Mall in DC and hearing Freddie Mercury's name, among others, called out and remembered as those who had died from AIDS.
In fact, it later spurred me to buy journalist/author Randy Shilts' 1987 classic "And the Band Played On: Politics, People, and the AIDS Epidemic." I've been reading the book on/off slowly - even before the COVID-19 pandemic started in China - but have yet to complete it. I was sad to learn Randy Shilts had succumbed to AIDS in his early 40s in 1994. Besides Freddie Mercury, he was another extremely talented soul who died too young. Shilts may have unintentionally maligned Gaetan Dugas as Patient Zero, but I honestly believe he would've rectified the error today, out of journalistic integrity.
Even though the book "And the Band Played On" is over 30-years-old and progress has been made in terms of HIV/AIDS treatment, it's scary to realize that no vaccine has yet to be developed - or a cure to be found for HIV. Gosh, I pray it's not the same for COVID-19, a RESPIRATORY disease! It's far easier to avoid the exposure to HIV found in blood and bodily fluids. Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and today's U.S. medical expert and advisor to the POTUS on COVID-19, was even mentioned on 6 pages from the 1987 book!
In fact, it later spurred me to buy journalist/author Randy Shilts' 1987 classic "And the Band Played On: Politics, People, and the AIDS Epidemic." I've been reading the book on/off slowly - even before the COVID-19 pandemic started in China - but have yet to complete it. I was sad to learn Randy Shilts had succumbed to AIDS in his early 40s in 1994. Besides Freddie Mercury, he was another extremely talented soul who died too young. Shilts may have unintentionally maligned Gaetan Dugas as Patient Zero, but I honestly believe he would've rectified the error today, out of journalistic integrity.
Even though the book "And the Band Played On" is over 30-years-old and progress has been made in terms of HIV/AIDS treatment, it's scary to realize that no vaccine has yet to be developed - or a cure to be found for HIV. Gosh, I pray it's not the same for COVID-19, a RESPIRATORY disease! It's far easier to avoid the exposure to HIV found in blood and bodily fluids. Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and today's U.S. medical expert and advisor to the POTUS on COVID-19, was even mentioned on 6 pages from the 1987 book!
On Friday, I finished my first full week of working from home, and I have to admit that I really like it. My husband is retired, so I enjoy being able to see him during the day. Speaking of my husband, I got a surprise gift from him today...a new Freddie tee-shirt. One can never have too many Freddie shirts! This one has a picture of Freddie in his classic pose wearing his yellow jacket with the words "The Show Must Go On". I am very lucky and grateful. :)
In the midst of this awful pandemic, I am truly heartened by the many acts of kindness that have emerged. Both individuals and organizations are reaching out to provide assistance or simply lift spirits during this stressful time. In the late afternoon today, I heard the sound of emergency vehicles coming down our street...lots of them. I stepped outside and watched as 5 large firetrucks and EMT vehicles slowly drove down the street, lights flashing and horns blaring. No emergency...they were just driving around and waving to people. My neighbors around me had also stepped outside and everyone waved as they drove by. That was fun.
My father-in-law asked me to send him a link to the song "Amazing Grace" by Il Divo. This is such a beautiful song...majestically done by the group at the Roman Coliseum in Croatia. Thought I would pass it along in case some of you have never heard this version before. It is truly magnificent and uplifting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYMLMj-SibU
In the midst of this awful pandemic, I am truly heartened by the many acts of kindness that have emerged. Both individuals and organizations are reaching out to provide assistance or simply lift spirits during this stressful time. In the late afternoon today, I heard the sound of emergency vehicles coming down our street...lots of them. I stepped outside and watched as 5 large firetrucks and EMT vehicles slowly drove down the street, lights flashing and horns blaring. No emergency...they were just driving around and waving to people. My neighbors around me had also stepped outside and everyone waved as they drove by. That was fun.
My father-in-law asked me to send him a link to the song "Amazing Grace" by Il Divo. This is such a beautiful song...majestically done by the group at the Roman Coliseum in Croatia. Thought I would pass it along in case some of you have never heard this version before. It is truly magnificent and uplifting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYMLMj-SibU
Rainbow, that is a beautiful song my grandmother's favorite I had to play it for her every holiday.
Steven, I second that I'm glad your here too everyone is I hope there are more to come .You seem very knowledgable about the civil war era.As far as the band played on it wasnt one of my favorite movies.They really screwed that one up I think blamed that poor guy made him look like satan himself when he was no different from anyone else of those times that knew nothing about the virus.If anything he was cooperative and it helped them figure out it was sexually transmitted I believe dont quote me on that.
regarding Manson attacking Sharon Tate’s-Roman Polanski home thinking it belonged to one of The Beach Boys. What I understood Actress singer Doris Day, her only son, Jerry Melcher was a music producer and was good friends with Beach boys Brian Wilson. Manson lived with Wilson as a means of being helpful with a music guy interested in writing songs, but living as roommates went south. Wilson introduces manson to Melcher (Doris Day’s son) who USED to live in Sharon Tate’s house.
Melcher had ZERO interest in Manson.
Melcher told his mother that the guy was creepy and was giving death threats to Melcher. Doris Day told her son to move.
Melcher sold his house to Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski.
Manson got his indoctrinated zombies to go murder Melcher only not realizing Melcher moved, Sharon being 8 months pregnant and pleaded for her son to be spared, but we all know the rest of the story.
I met the L.A. Prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi back in the 70’s, and the story he told of the trial would make your neck stand off your neck. I remember The Who Manson-Tate and La Bianco murders like it was yesterday.
Melcher had ZERO interest in Manson.
Melcher told his mother that the guy was creepy and was giving death threats to Melcher. Doris Day told her son to move.
Melcher sold his house to Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski.
Manson got his indoctrinated zombies to go murder Melcher only not realizing Melcher moved, Sharon being 8 months pregnant and pleaded for her son to be spared, but we all know the rest of the story.
I met the L.A. Prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi back in the 70’s, and the story he told of the trial would make your neck stand off your neck. I remember The Who Manson-Tate and La Bianco murders like it was yesterday.
Typo .....The Who Manson-Tate.....The Who? My mind always on rock music. Lol
Wow just saw the link for Amazing Grace, AWESOME and uplifting, thank you!
Lego, Charles Manson Helter Skelter true Crime.The one that killed Sharon Tate.