Rainbow, My heart does go out to Gaetan”s family it must be terrible to watch your family suffer like that and be falsely accused. He was so cooperative with them it really helped them figure out they were dealing with a disease that was sexually transmitted. Someone had to give it to him though and the person before that so really he just wasn’t the villain they claimed him to be. I’m glad they did this for his family I respect their silence a friend of his said he was one of the most kind giving people you could ever meet.i forget it was on utube somewhere. He wasn’t doing anything in my opinion that anyone else wasn’t and it’s good he was so kind and helped the investigation.As far as him knowingly infecting other men I doubt he did I think at first they thought eit was cancer . so no one was taking precautions if anything because of his picture I think a lot of people started using condoms but sadly for many it was too late.
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Rainbow, My heart does go out to Gaetan”s family it must be terrible to watch your family suffer like that and be falsely accused. He was so cooperative with them it really helped them figure out they were dealing with a disease that was sexually transmitted. Someone had to give it to him though and the person before that so really he just wasn’t the villain they claimed him to be. I’m glad they did this for his family I respect their silence a friend of his said he was one of the most kind giving people you could ever meet.i forget it was on utube somewhere. He wasn’t doing anything in my opinion that anyone else wasn’t and it’s good he was so kind and helped the investigation.As far as him knowingly infecting other men I doubt he did I think at first they thought eit was cancer . so no one was taking precautions if anything because of his picture I think a lot of people started using condoms but sadly for many it was too late.
R.I.P. Larry Kramer!
@stevendabudgie, till you recommended the documentary "How to Survive a Plague" last year, I learned about the AIDS activist/writer for the very 1st time. Thank you!
@MHZ, OMG, you're done reading the 600-page "And the Band Played On" already? I'm only halfway through it. Larry Kramer figured so prominently in the book. After I get done reading it, I'll start on Kramer's works.
I'm very saddened, but at least Mr. Kramer got to live to the age of 84, through the help of modern medicine (antiretroviral therapy or ART). He himself was HIV(+). BTW, he passed away from pneumonia. I copied and pasted below Dr. Fauci's comment about his late friend on 5-27-20.:
“This is a very, very sad day. It’s the passing of a true icon,” Fauci told The Associated Press, saying he was glad that he’d recently had a chance for a last phone call with Kramer. “I had a very long and complicated and ultimately wonderful relationship with him over more than three decades,” Fauci said. “We went from adversaries to acquaintances to friends to really, really dear friends.”
@stevendabudgie, till you recommended the documentary "How to Survive a Plague" last year, I learned about the AIDS activist/writer for the very 1st time. Thank you!
@MHZ, OMG, you're done reading the 600-page "And the Band Played On" already? I'm only halfway through it. Larry Kramer figured so prominently in the book. After I get done reading it, I'll start on Kramer's works.
I'm very saddened, but at least Mr. Kramer got to live to the age of 84, through the help of modern medicine (antiretroviral therapy or ART). He himself was HIV(+). BTW, he passed away from pneumonia. I copied and pasted below Dr. Fauci's comment about his late friend on 5-27-20.:
“This is a very, very sad day. It’s the passing of a true icon,” Fauci told The Associated Press, saying he was glad that he’d recently had a chance for a last phone call with Kramer. “I had a very long and complicated and ultimately wonderful relationship with him over more than three decades,” Fauci said. “We went from adversaries to acquaintances to friends to really, really dear friends.”
My Human zoo, Brian’s ordeal is quite scary all my dads 8 siblings have stents or some kind of heart surgery and diabetes he doesn’t though. one brother has CHF and had a bad heart attack and still doesn’t watch his fluid intake.Indians are pretty bad about being diabetic and having heart disease but Brian was the picture of health.
Rainbow - that's too bad about the national parks! Make sense on their part but, that's where I would want to do it! Kind of like, if I ever had the opportunity, I would love to participate in an archeological dig!!! I know it's not the same but I feel like the excitement in finding something good would be the same :)
Gaetan Dugas - that's the name I couldn't think of before regarding the book! Geez, he and John Murphy really got the raw end in the older reporting didn't they? It's nice to see people are still trying to clear up the info but, like most things online, once it's out there, you can't really stop it!
I just may have to grab that book now with how you all talk about it!!!
Finally watched the Brian May that Rainbow posted. Poor guy had a series of really bad luck huh? So glad that he seems to be getting over all of that! I had a herniated disk about 1 1/2 yrs ago, the month before my daughters wedding. I was able to attend the wedding w/o any pain as long as I didn't twist or dance, thank God! The herniation was severe enough to pinch 2 nerves which still cause me problems. No pain but I'm still somewhat limited in lifting, certain movements so, I can only guess that Brian may have a long road ahead of him and may have to alter his lifestyle a little. Even so, he's very fortunate to be getting over the pain and have his heart problem seemingly resolved!!!
Gaetan Dugas - that's the name I couldn't think of before regarding the book! Geez, he and John Murphy really got the raw end in the older reporting didn't they? It's nice to see people are still trying to clear up the info but, like most things online, once it's out there, you can't really stop it!
I just may have to grab that book now with how you all talk about it!!!
Finally watched the Brian May that Rainbow posted. Poor guy had a series of really bad luck huh? So glad that he seems to be getting over all of that! I had a herniated disk about 1 1/2 yrs ago, the month before my daughters wedding. I was able to attend the wedding w/o any pain as long as I didn't twist or dance, thank God! The herniation was severe enough to pinch 2 nerves which still cause me problems. No pain but I'm still somewhat limited in lifting, certain movements so, I can only guess that Brian may have a long road ahead of him and may have to alter his lifestyle a little. Even so, he's very fortunate to be getting over the pain and have his heart problem seemingly resolved!!!
Katydid, I saw them last summer too, and for the exact same reason. I thought this may be my last chance. I saw them once in Columbus and it was so good I actually traveled down to Charlotte and caught their last US show. I have to say, I never dreamed it would be as good as it was. I didn’t stop smiling the whole time...and I don’t think I slept the night afterward either, I was so jacked up!
Rainbow, thanks for that link. I did feel like the guilt placed on Dugas in the book was excessive, Shilts really hammered that in. I remember thinking that no one could be quite that callous, but then with the level of deep investigation it seemed like there had to be some truth to it. As much as Shilts went into so much detail, with so many interviews and such, I think some is probably true....in fact they even say in that video clip that Dugas could remember 72 of his sexual partners which made him good for the study. But like all stories, I have a feeling that his actions were not really to the extent (and not as villainous) as Stilts made it to be either. As all things, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle! I need to find the movie and watch it now.
For those of you that like hearing Brian and Roger narrate things, below is a link to them narrating their greatest hits. It’s fun to hear their input! Hopefully it works, I’m not great with links!
https://youtu.be/RssxnOgslig
Rainbow, thanks for that link. I did feel like the guilt placed on Dugas in the book was excessive, Shilts really hammered that in. I remember thinking that no one could be quite that callous, but then with the level of deep investigation it seemed like there had to be some truth to it. As much as Shilts went into so much detail, with so many interviews and such, I think some is probably true....in fact they even say in that video clip that Dugas could remember 72 of his sexual partners which made him good for the study. But like all stories, I have a feeling that his actions were not really to the extent (and not as villainous) as Stilts made it to be either. As all things, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle! I need to find the movie and watch it now.
For those of you that like hearing Brian and Roger narrate things, below is a link to them narrating their greatest hits. It’s fun to hear their input! Hopefully it works, I’m not great with links!
https://youtu.be/RssxnOgslig
MHZ, The movie is on utube the whole entire thing. Just click in the title.
Jo T, you mentioned ATBPO is 600 pages. I took it right back out of my cart. I'm not adverse to big fat books, but the book I'm currently reading is close to 700 and I'm just not ready to take on another one. Plus, I do think I either read or attempted to read it years ago.
MHZ, I'm trying to think when I "met" you. I think I first became aware of you on the book thread, rather than on Thor's old threads, right? I'm asking because I saw Queen+AL in Columbus too! We could have met for dinner or something before the concert. I was up way high in the arena. How about you? We considered staying in the city because we had kind of a long drive home and it was late at night, but like you, we were so jazzed there wasn't a moment of tiredness! I'm so glad I got to see them.
MHZ, I'm trying to think when I "met" you. I think I first became aware of you on the book thread, rather than on Thor's old threads, right? I'm asking because I saw Queen+AL in Columbus too! We could have met for dinner or something before the concert. I was up way high in the arena. How about you? We considered staying in the city because we had kind of a long drive home and it was late at night, but like you, we were so jazzed there wasn't a moment of tiredness! I'm so glad I got to see them.
Chevy, I was talking about seeing the Band Played On movie, is the link for that one there? I must admit, I never look to see how big a book is when I get them on Kindle, so I didn’t know the book was 600 pages. I just kind of monitor as I read, and when I noticed it took about 6 hours to read 1% of the book I realized what I had done, lol!
Katydid, I can’t believe we were both at Columbus! We definitely could have met up. I was sitting about halfway up on Brian’s side of the stage, I wanted to be as close to him as I could afford. Now I kind of wish I was farther back to see the screens and also see the guys when they came to the end of the center aisle part of the stage and sang Love of My Life, etc. but it was still fantastic. We stayed out in a suburb town, can’t remember the name at the moment. We didn’t want to pay the expensive downtown hotel prices. The next day we drove over to the tennis tourney in Mason, I was tired but we had a blast there too. I think you and I first met on the book thread, I didn’t really participate much on Thor’s thread.
Katydid, I can’t believe we were both at Columbus! We definitely could have met up. I was sitting about halfway up on Brian’s side of the stage, I wanted to be as close to him as I could afford. Now I kind of wish I was farther back to see the screens and also see the guys when they came to the end of the center aisle part of the stage and sang Love of My Life, etc. but it was still fantastic. We stayed out in a suburb town, can’t remember the name at the moment. We didn’t want to pay the expensive downtown hotel prices. The next day we drove over to the tennis tourney in Mason, I was tired but we had a blast there too. I think you and I first met on the book thread, I didn’t really participate much on Thor’s thread.
MHZ, I just got around to listening to the link you shared of Brian and Roger narrating Queen's greatest hits. I LOVED it! Thanks for sharing. The stories they tell add so much to the music and it's just so obvious how close they all were. They speak of Freddie with such affection. This is exactly the type of thing that appeals to me. I'm so interested in the back stories of the band. I can't believe I almost missed your link because this was a delight. I'm sharing it again just in case others can't find it:
http://youtu.be/RssxnOgslig
I really am sorry we missed the chance to meet at the concert. And you were practically in my backyard at the tennis tournament. Funny how lives cross...…………..We were dependent on the screens to see a lot of the action because we were up a ways., but I didn't care. If I'm picturing the arena correctly we were in the first section up from the floor, hmmmmm, or maybe the middle section up from the floor.It didn't circle the whole arena, just the area directly in front of the stage. Definitely not the nose bleed section, I wont do those. Wherever we were, there were people just to our left sitting at high top tables and waitresses were bring them food and drinks. I count it as the best concert I've ever been to and I"ve been to a fair amount.
http://youtu.be/RssxnOgslig
I really am sorry we missed the chance to meet at the concert. And you were practically in my backyard at the tennis tournament. Funny how lives cross...…………..We were dependent on the screens to see a lot of the action because we were up a ways., but I didn't care. If I'm picturing the arena correctly we were in the first section up from the floor, hmmmmm, or maybe the middle section up from the floor.It didn't circle the whole arena, just the area directly in front of the stage. Definitely not the nose bleed section, I wont do those. Wherever we were, there were people just to our left sitting at high top tables and waitresses were bring them food and drinks. I count it as the best concert I've ever been to and I"ve been to a fair amount.
MHz, Go to utube type in and the band plays on movie and the entire movie pops up to watch.
Katydid, I’m glad you liked the commentary from Brian and Roger, I love those too! I really wish they would do it on more things, it can’t take long and it is so interesting and entertaining.
I was in the first section above the floor at the concert too, just way on the right side. We were right on the aisle so I was able to get up and dance around, it was such a blast! I have been to a decent number of concerts, but this is this first rock type concert in quite a few years. I think my very first concert was seeing Loverboy waaaayyyy back when!
I was in the first section above the floor at the concert too, just way on the right side. We were right on the aisle so I was able to get up and dance around, it was such a blast! I have been to a decent number of concerts, but this is this first rock type concert in quite a few years. I think my very first concert was seeing Loverboy waaaayyyy back when!
MHZ....Thanks for the link to the Brian/Roger greatest hits song discussion. I had never seen that one before...watched it a couple of nights ago and enjoyed it very much! Brian and Roger talk about Freddie with such warmth and respect. In addition, I find their voices very relaxing.
Katydyd and MHZ...When I saw Queen in Montreal, I was half way up on the left side. In Connecticut, I was about half way up on the right side (Brian's side). We had a direct view of the part of the stage that projected into the audience for both of those shows. For the concert at the Xfinity Center outside of Boston last year, I was a little more than half way back, slightly left of center from the front of the stage. All of the seats were pretty good, but I did rely a lot on the big screen. I would definitely pay more to sit closer the next time (fingers crossed) they tour in the US/Canada. Without a doubt, last year's concert had the best crowd energy and is my all time favorite show!
My first rock concert was "Cheap Trick"...about 40 years ago. Yikes....where did the time go?
Katydyd and MHZ...When I saw Queen in Montreal, I was half way up on the left side. In Connecticut, I was about half way up on the right side (Brian's side). We had a direct view of the part of the stage that projected into the audience for both of those shows. For the concert at the Xfinity Center outside of Boston last year, I was a little more than half way back, slightly left of center from the front of the stage. All of the seats were pretty good, but I did rely a lot on the big screen. I would definitely pay more to sit closer the next time (fingers crossed) they tour in the US/Canada. Without a doubt, last year's concert had the best crowd energy and is my all time favorite show!
My first rock concert was "Cheap Trick"...about 40 years ago. Yikes....where did the time go?
Rainbow, I here you my First concert was kiss in 1991 I think. I was 17 years old it was a blast I can still remember in art class painting all their faces on ceramics. I thought I was so cool. I also did masks of the house of pain they were pretty wicked. I wanted desperately to go to a Metallica concert but I never got too I loved that song enter sandman. I used to listen to some way out their. That was long ago I’m old and so are all those artists lol.
I wish I had the privilege to have been old enough to attend a Queen concert but when they were touring the US I was maybe 8 or 9 When is the last time they toured in the US?