There’s no arguments there . Yet. Because you are holding back and dumping your spite and need for conflict here. But there will be arguments . It’s just a matter of time before you start accusing people of being trolls whilst engaging and encouraging them with every post.[/QUOTE]
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]AlbaNo1 wrote:[/b]There’s no arguments there . Yet. Because you are holding back and dumping your spite and need for conflict here. But there will be arguments . It’s just a matter of time before you start accusing people of being trolls whilst engaging and encouraging them with every post.[/QUOTE]
1. there's no arguments because: all that we have over there is a respect of the band and music in general, and an acceptance of differing opinion, with a grown-up approach to discussion.
2. there may be disagreement - but these will remain calm and respectful - because in moderated forums, people behave in a moderated manner.
3. we don't need to accuse anyone of being trolls. any known trolls register - we ban them immediately. any unknown trolls post, they are warned, their post is removed and a repeat results in ban.
any bans include email, IP and one or two other combinations - so the forum is pretty well structured/protected - unlike this place, which is geared up to people almost never being banned or moderated.
conversely, all you have here is the likes of Gerry, Aristide1, runner_70 and Freddie Jupiter basically posting any one/combination of; racist, abusive, homophobic, trans-phobic, and threatening violence toward anyone who dares to discuss Freddie in any comparative light other than "beaming fucking halo". unfortunately, this forum is in its death rattle (just try and remember what a great place it was BEFORE they arrived) because, apologists - stand by and NEVER condemn any of their posts - because they are not prepared to risk incurring any of the trolls special treatment. ask yourself why have you personally, never condemned them - you know they are wrong to behave as they do, but i suppose you must have your own reasons?
thing is, many people absolutely know that what they do is deplorable, but look the other way, often (instead) challenging the challengers (well that's much easier isn't it), because woe betide that this forum should impinge on freedom of speech - even when that freedom insults/invades others' freedoms. bystanders should be ashamed, because - in doing so - they've contributed as much to this forum's downfall as those four creatures have.
reaching the sensible conclusion for "deniers" and "apologists" will be almost impossible. you could choose to come to our new forum, breathe the fresh air, actually engage in respectful, stimulating, discussion with the other 563 of us (400+ who used to be here)
go on, prove me wrong - join us - or are you far too comfortable in the miasma of this place?
and with that, i'll leave you to it.
runner_70 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]AlbaNo1 wrote:[/b]There’s no arguments there . Yet. Because you are holding back and dumping your spite and need for conflict here. But there will be arguments . It’s just a matter of time before you start accusing people of being trolls whilst engaging and encouraging them with every post.[/QUOTE]
1. there's no arguments because: all that we have over there is a respect of the band and music in general, and an acceptance of differing opinion, with a grown-up approach to discussion.
2. there may be disagreement - but these will remain calm and respectful - because in moderated forums, people behave in a moderated manner.
3. we don't need to accuse anyone of being trolls. any known trolls register - we ban them immediately. any unknown trolls post, they are warned, their post is removed and a repeat results in ban.
any bans include email, IP and one or two other combinations - so the forum is pretty well structured/protected - unlike this place, which is geared up to people almost never being banned or moderated.
conversely, all you have here is the likes of Gerry, Aristide1, runner_70 and Freddie Jupiter basically posting any one/combination of; racist, abusive, homophobic, trans-phobic, and threatening violence toward anyone who dares to discuss Freddie in any comparative light other than "beaming fucking halo". unfortunately, this forum is in its death rattle (just try and remember what a great place it was BEFORE they arrived) because, apologists - stand by and NEVER condemn any of their posts - because they are not prepared to risk incurring any of the trolls special treatment. ask yourself why have you personally, never condemned them - you know they are wrong to behave as they do, but i suppose you must have your own reasons?
thing is, many people absolutely know that what they do is deplorable, but look the other way, often (instead) challenging the challengers (well that's much easier isn't it), because woe betide that this forum should impinge on freedom of speech - even when that freedom insults/invades others' freedoms. bystanders should be ashamed, because - in doing so - they've contributed as much to this forum's downfall as those four creatures have.
reaching the sensible conclusion for "deniers" and "apologists" will be almost impossible. you could choose to come to our new forum, breathe the fresh air, actually engage in respectful, stimulating, discussion with the other 563 of us (400+ who used to be here)
go on, prove me wrong - join us - or are you far too comfortable in the miasma of this place?
and with that, i'll leave you to it.
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Still you come here every day - your new asscunt forum must be pretty boring.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]Still you come here every day - your new asscunt forum must be pretty boring.[/QUOTE]
do you have accounts on more than one forum on the whole WWW?
thought so, so shut the f**k up, moron.
the reason this place is dead, is because of your "assc**t" and similar attacks. i hope alba sees sense and opts to join actual discussion at our forum - rather than bystand your "abuse takeover" of QZ
[color=green][b] [i]btw: did you notice your mate (gerry) has been removed again? i'm happy to have helped to expedite this. [/b][/i][/color]
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
many people absolutely know that what they do is deplorable, but look the other way, often (instead) challenging the challengers (well that's much easier isn't it), because woe betide that this forum should impinge on freedom of speech - even when that freedom insults/invades others' freedoms. bystanders should be ashamed, because - in doing so - they've contributed as much to this forum's downfall as those four creatures have.[/QUOTE]
Nailed it.
Because it's always easier to tolerate the status quo than to challenge it, especially when the challengers are in the minority. Most people don't want to be the pariah who sticks out from the rest, even if there's a chance they could create something good.
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]AlbaNo1 wrote:[/b]There’s no arguments there . Yet. Because you are holding back and dumping your spite and need for conflict here. But there will be arguments . It’s just a matter of time before you start accusing people of being trolls whilst engaging and encouraging them with every post.[/QUOTE]
1. there's no arguments because: all that we have over there is a respect of the band and music in general, and an acceptance of differing opinion, with a grown-up approach to discussion.
2. there may be disagreement - but these will remain calm and respectful - because in moderated forums, people behave in a moderated manner.
3. we don't need to accuse anyone of being trolls. any known trolls register - we ban them immediately. any unknown trolls post, they are warned, their post is removed and a repeat results in ban.
any bans include email, IP and one or two other combinations - so the forum is pretty well structured/protected - unlike this place, which is geared up to people almost never being banned or moderated.
conversely, all you have here is the likes of Gerry, Aristide1, runner_70 and Freddie Jupiter basically posting any one/combination of; racist, abusive, homophobic, trans-phobic, and threatening violence toward anyone who dares to discuss Freddie in any comparative light other than "beaming fucking halo". unfortunately, this forum is in its death rattle (just try and remember what a great place it was BEFORE they arrived) because, apologists - stand by and NEVER condemn any of their posts - because they are not prepared to risk incurring any of the trolls special treatment. ask yourself why have you personally, never condemned them - you know they are wrong to behave as they do, but i suppose you must have your own reasons?
thing is, many people absolutely know that what they do is deplorable, but look the other way, often (instead) challenging the challengers (well that's much easier isn't it), because woe betide that this forum should impinge on freedom of speech - even when that freedom insults/invades others' freedoms. bystanders should be ashamed, because - in doing so - they've contributed as much to this forum's downfall as those four creatures have.
reaching the sensible conclusion for "deniers" and "apologists" will be almost impossible. you could choose to come to our new forum, breathe the fresh air, actually engage in respectful, stimulating, discussion with the other 563 of us (400+ who used to be here)
go on, prove me wrong - join us - or are you far too comfortable in the miasma of this place?
and with that, i'll leave you to it.
[/QUOTE]
Still you come here every day - your new asscunt forum must be pretty boring.
[/QUOTE]
We come here every day because we can. And using the unmoderated freedom of this place I can call you whatever I want, just as you have done for months. And there's fuck all you can do about it.
So put up with it, you created this shit hole, and shut the fuck up.
