Freddie Dearie doesn’t want Thor or Lee”s book read ignore her I wish I had

Thereuhaveit wrote:

I was thinking about my comment and realize that there's more of an inconsistency than I'd considered. I think what I'm remembering from the interview is Mary's version of the doctor telling her that Freddie has AIDS. I think that comes from 'The Untold Story' though it might have been from another documentary. While I don't think she gives a specific date during her interview, by the time of that documentary, it was commonly understood that he found out in '87.

It's in a different venue which I've read, that she mentions that she and Freddie "knew" at the end of the Magic Tour, fully a year-and-a-half before the April '87 diagnosis.

Again, he might have suspected, but it's only after the '87 date that he and Jim used condoms.

"The last tour, he knew, and it was really hard work for him. Working through the emotional pain, KNOWING, that this was his last tour. Watching him walk off stage, you know, I feel pain now, and.. it's just that look, of him walking off, and I looked at him and he looked at me, and it's of that "knowing" that this has to be the last one."

Mary Austin -- https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b0171x1k
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In Sept ’87 Freddie said that he had stopped having sex altogether. We don't know how early on that was.

My inkling is that Freddie stopped having sex when he and Winnie broke up in June 1986. Which would coincide with him believing he was HIV+ right before the Magic Tour,

Jim lies quite a bit, so his claims are not reliable IMO.

’87 is when Jim claims he was told.

It's hard to know when Freddie knew FOR SURE, for sure.

I took care of men who were literally hours from dying with AIDS and they were still in denial about it Maybe it was something else. Maybe they’d recover. Maybe it wasn't sexually transmitted, maybe the doctors are wrong. They didn't want to die with the scandal of having AIDS.

One of my best friends would tell himself and others that it was a ”blood disease” like Leukemia. Members of his family, for a long time, believed it was leukemia.

CHEVYMAN wrote:

Mary was devastating by Freddie’s AIDS diagnoses I think she had always played his right hand man or woman. She wanted him back and wanted Garden lodge from the time she picked it out fort him. She wanted all the glory even to be the important one about his AIDS diagnosis. Miss perfect wasn’t so perfect she was in love with a gay man and would risk anything to even be his widow which she did.

There’s no indication or proof she was still in love with him romantically. Mary had long moved on after Freddie came out as gay.

She WAS the most important one to him, she didn’t need to plot be so. She already was.

She was just as dedicated to him as he was to her, albeit platonically.

Love needn’t be romantic to be great and profound.

CHEVYMAN wrote:

Bottom line she shuttered at the word gay and Freddie’s lifestyle wasn’t pleasing to her. So she worked against everyone in it.Freadie dearie that books gonna happen

She didn’t shutter at the word gay. She just struggled with which word to use, “gay” or “a homosexual” and it came out as “a gay”.

She didn’t work at ALL against his lifestyle. In fact Freddie said she didn’t,

Freddie Mercury said:

“All my lovers ask me why they can't replace [MARY], but it's simply impossible.

I don't feel jealous of her lovers because, of course, she has a life to lead, and so do I Basically, I try to make sure she's happy with whoever she's with and she tries to do the same for me...

I treat Mary as my common-law wife...It’s where the heart is that matters. We’re happy with each other and it doesn't matter what other people think. We believe in each other. SO, FUCK EVERYBODY ELSE!

Mary is very independent about the life I lead. But it is a kind of understanding that doesn’t come overnight. We have gone through a lot of ups and downs in our times together, but that has made our relationship all the stronger. I know a lot of people find it difficult to understand our relationship, and, yes it is an odd bond, but other people who come into our lives just have to except it. WE LOVE EACH OTHER VERY MUCH AND LOOK AFTER EACH OTHER ”

I didn’t say I was gonna “republish” anything. But it will definitely be uploaded by someone because that’s what happens here all the time.

CHEVYMAN wrote:

how are you gonna republish a book nobody wants by the likes of you. To be able to be liked and nobody foes.

You just proved my point that there would be no case for piracy. Thank you.

If no one wants it by the likes of me, then neither you nor they have anything to worry about.

Case closed.

How are they lying?

As far as AIDS my uncle died with it it real doesn’t matter where you got it who you were friends with and went out with when you contracted it. The fact is my uncle worked for an airline company he was a mechanic supervisor which required him to fly all over the place he had spent numerous visits in Newyork as well. But it’s not for certain that’s where he got it he had slept with men all over the world where he worked and traveled. It wasn’t in a back alley either he stayed in nice hotels. My point is you got it you died end of story. It doesn’t matter who introduced who people were sleeping around and getting it they put themselves at risk end of story.

Porn industry look how many died there they were just doing their jobs. They didn’t go to work thinking they were going to get their shot or dose of AIDS. AIDS had killed the most beautiful talented pornstars in the 80’s. Bartenders were dying left and right. The bartenders weren’t all gay neither some of them were bisexual. I know that’s a dirty word and nobody likes to here it but it’s true. Women were sleeping with these bartenders and getting the virus too.

CHEVYMAN wrote:

As far as AIDS my uncle died with it it real doesn’t matter where you got it who you were friends with and went out with when you contracted it. The fact is my uncle worked for an airline company he was a mechanic supervisor which required him to fly all over the place he had spent numerous visits in Newyork as well. But it’s not for certain that’s where he got it he had slept with men all over the world where he worked and traveled. It wasn’t in a back alley either he stayed in nice hotels. My point is you got it you died end of story. It doesn’t matter who introduced who people were sleeping around and getting it they put themselves at risk end of story.

Agreed.

Also in this case, Freddie likely got it because Thor introduced him to the man who likely infected Freddie.

And now they are trying to profit off it, THAT matters.

It was a harsh reality for all people and for freadie dearie to blame innocent people for introducing Freddie to Aids pisses me off. Freddie was a grown man and said fuck it as many people did and was screwing a lot of people.He took responsibility who are you to judge. That’s not what this book is about. You aren’t the one that had to go through pic after pic of dead men and decide what memories to put in a memory book. How dare you suggest copying someone else’s work and time and moments of joy and sadness. Your a bitch.

CHEVYMAN wrote:

Porn industry look how many died there they were just doing their jobs. They didn’t go to work thinking they were going to get their shot or dose of AIDS. AIDS had killed the most beautiful talented pornstars in the 80’s. Bartenders were dying left and right. The bartenders weren’t all gay neither some of them were bisexual. I know that’s a dirty word and nobody likes to here it but it’s true. Women were sleeping with these bartenders and getting the virus too.

Yes we all know this. You seem to be stating and repeating the obvious,

Although I will say that truly bisexual men didn't really frequent gay bars. Bi-men general didn't like to be associated with gay men as they could be as homophobic as some straight people,

That being said, there were lots of latent gay men, closeted gay men and Bi men loving on the down-low.

Fred did wasn't one of of them.

CHEVYMAN wrote:

How are they lying?

Some lies have already been pointed out to you and it goes over your head.

If you’re ACTUALLY interested in truth, I will wait until the book comes out and critique it line by line for you when someone uploads it. :wink: :LMAO:

I’m bi sexual and I love gay men they wouldn’t be interested in sexual relations with me. But to me a man is a man I font see any difference in them. I would sleep with any I was interested in regardless of whether they slept with other men or not. I know that’s not the way it works for a gay man but for me it does .Its just not reciprocated and I respect that fact.

That’s why I see no problem with women hanging out with their man friends in male bars. To me I think bars just should be bars where everybody gets together and has a good time and if it’s your thing fine if not that’s okay too. It’s all good at the end of the day let’s have fun.

That’s the real issue with the book I call it how it is too

FreddieDearie wrote:
Don’t worry. For those who want to read it but don’t want to pay the money, I have a friend that is in publishing and is going to scan the book and it will be uploaded so people don’t have to be scammed.

People can reach their own conclusions about your ORIGINAL intent. If your friend plans to "scan" the book and upload it for readers "who don't want to pay the money," it sounds like an attempt to sabotage sales. After all, why would readers buy a book if it's available online for free? For you, it was NEVER initially about offering consumers "excerpts" or a "free sample" from the book, so they can make informed decisions on whether or not to buy the book. You backtracked and altered your narrative LATER, after I brought up federal copyright violation. I've expressed my sentiments - whether or not others agree - and shall lay it to rest.