JFK

Its nice to see all our American friends have at last got another decent President.

That thing about not trusting the government; does that apply to Global Internet Government?

There was a fantastic BBC docu on Sunday. It convinced me, a believer in a possible conspiracy, that it was all Lee-H-Oswald. No conspiracy afer-all. Although, people will still believe otherwise...
I remember studying and gathering the facts for a school exam assignment in History. I got an A+ for that. My first and last! Anyway, that got my interest and a conspiracy always seemed the only logical explanation for the unanswered questions. For 12 years, I believed that idea.

And after watching many documentarys on the subject - the bbc one really brought new facts into play that explained a lot of the gray areas. I was surprised, because it righted a lot of wrongful information. It even put the so-called Magic Bullet to shame. It explains it very well. No longer does that one standup.

Peace,
Adam.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3226908.stm

"Its nice to see all our American friends have at last got another decent President."

LOL!

Adam, I haven't seen the documentary you talk about but I have read about it. Doesn't it claim that Gov Connally was sitting in the front seat but to JFK's left? That is the only way the "magic bullet" could possibly have hit both JFK and Connally, right? I am looking at pictures right now which clearly show Connally sitting right in front of JFK, with one arm out over the car door. Furthermore, when JFK was hit first (by the "magic" bullet) Connally turns round to look at JFK and is *then* hit himself. Not only does the Zapruder film show this, his wife has been saying it for 30 years and confirmed it again on Larry King a few days ago. Not a single witness (read that again) - not one of the 100s interviewed said things happened in the way that the Warren Commission claimed. That includes Connally's wife who was in the car beside him when he was shot AFTER Jfk. It was only after he was shot after JFK that COnnally said "My God they're trying to kill us all" (to parapharse). The Warren Commission is bullshit, as Richard Nixon's tapes confirm. The best book on this is Jim Marrs' "Crossfire." Read that and tell me that Oswald was a "lone crazed gunman" as the Warren Commission claims.

Violent. Violent young nation. Same with that United Kingdom. Sucks to be Spencer Perceval.

"Doesn't it claim that Gov Connally was sitting in the front seat but to JFK's left?"

Not directly on the left. In fact, they revisited the same type of car used and found that the front seat was actually seated more to the left and therefore not directly in front of JFK. Until I watched the docu, I had never seen that demonstrated and they asked people to sit in the car.

"Connally turns round to look at JFK and is *then* hit himself. Not only does the Zapruder film show this, his wife has been saying it for 30 years..."

Well, that's strange because they were showing the Zapruder footage and they showed frame 222 (as they emerge from the sign) and as it hits in frame 223, both men are clearly shown to be hit at the same time. They further demonstrated by showing on that frame, Connally's shirt changes colour (blood) and his jacket pushes out slightly (The bullet hitting) and reacts a couple of frames later.
Showing the point of entry as well as the moment where both men were struck.


I can't answer any of your other points as there's just too much detail to explain. And a lot of it would be better seen on the actual program. I also think the Warren Commission was crap. But who doesn't!?

Anyway, search for the documentary on the internet or something. After 12 years, it changed my mind. Because they explain everything very carefully and correct the shoddy details in the WCom.

Peace,
Adam.

"Executive Action" by Mark Lane is yet another theory on the JFK assassination. One part of the "magic bullet" theory I have a hard time believing is how the bullet that entered Kennedy's back did not mushroom out as it exited his body, leaving a sizeable hole. His throat wound was expanded by the doctors at Parkview to facilitate a tracheotomy.

Also for you conspiracy buffs, how about the JFK assassination death ring? Some 300 people directly or indirectly involved with the assassination and the events in Dallas have "mysteriously" died. Most of the deaths occurred under "questionable" circumstances. (i.e. people suddenly "developing" cancer shortly after receiving a physical that claimed they were in good health, car accidents, "self inflicted" gunshot wounds, etc...)

Got to agree with Adam, after watching the fantastic documentary on BBC, i am now convinced LHO was the lone gunman, the factual evidence was overwhelming.

I suppose you also think that the Moon landings were faked by the 'evil' US government then, Lucy?

Lucy was high, or Lucy is high.

I take it you did'nt watch the documentry last week then Lucy,everything you've just mentioned was explained away in plain English, with evidence to back it up. I think you've watch the Kevin Costner movie JFK too many times

There is no connection between whether the moon landings were faked (they weren't) and whether the Warren Commission was fraudulent, or what really did happen to Kennedy.

Furthermore, just because you watched one documentary doesn't make you an expert and doesn't give you the right to dismiss other points of view.

Stick to the points raised and stop attacking the messenger.

I'm not going to shout anyone down about their view. All I can say is that I always believed the conspiracy idea. Docu after docu tapped into the conspiracy idea and I really believed it. But this one simple BBC docu simply showed truths - Good evidence and explanation. For instance, the fatal blow where Kennedy pulls back and to the left - It is explained that a body being shot does not have to act in any specific way i.e. shot from the back or the front doesn't matter. A myth explained.

The JFK film was referred to because it managed to get 4million documents released. The film caused a stir and in 1999, those documents were forced into being released early because of the film's impact. The docu showed that there are many myths in the film that are given as truths. The Garrett guy Costner played was actually a bit of a dick. :)

Anyway...there will never be rest on this because too many will stick to their long-term views. For once in 12 years, I now tred a different path on this one.

All I can say is please don't discard this docu before seeing it. Seek it out and watch it - then decide.

Peace,
Adam.

Adam, that is the best advice i've read on the subject.
Watch it first then comment, if you aint seen it don't slag it.