Brian is FURIOUS!

brianmay.com was started by the original and zoner too Great King Rat-Jayme ran it for him for years until his passing-- it was then decided to offer it to Brian (by this time Jayme had delegated her workings of it to Jen) and he accepted it...

at any rate i think a few will continue to read too much into his statement

I doubt very much there would have been any mention of this on brianmay.com had the exchanging/bootlegging of the concert been confined to a few loyal queen fans desperate for anything new or old the band do. Lets face it if one of Freddies farts became available a lot of us would try and get hold of it.

Just do a search on kazza or winmx for 46664 and every artist and every track is available in mp3 & mpg format. The full show off ZDF better quality that the web broadcast. This is the lowest of the low because all the people who would buy the DVD are now downloading the stuff. We lose out because we don't get the DVD and the charity loses much needed cash.

I downloaded and paid for all the tracks off 46664 with no problem they play fine. Remember for 79p they are not going to be of the highest possible quality otherwise where would the incentive be for the casual listener to buy the CD. Whether you think its blatent or not its a charity and its main goals are to raise funds and awareness.

Also remember all the hard work Brian & Roger have put into this project after the original project failed. They deserve all the praise they get!

Original the site was brianmayniacs and there was place for sound files and so on as well

For a reason that I dont know the songs have disappeared, or better said, moved to another site, what sure should be mentioned in this, because Brian writes on that site that he visits it frequently

http://timelily2.com/

Sonja: WHAT value?!? The things we download can't be bought anyway, and would be better quality if ever officially released in the future...in which case we'd still buy them.

What Brian really needs to do is push the record company to get the 46664 DVD out BY CHRISTMAS. Bootleggers can do it within hours, so record companies need to start being able to compete with that. But the 46664 DVD is "planned" for release "in early 2004." I think people are going to lose interest by then. IMHO, the bad video files were keeping interest alive, which would have led to DVD sales (though I think trading the purchasable .mp3s is parasitic...unless better quality versions were indeed available elsewhere, after people had already paid). I have stopped trading the one short video file I had out of Brian's wishes, though I do disagree with him on it.

But who knows...maybe he WAS just talking about the .99 mp3s and not video clips anyway...hopefully he will clarify soon.

I agree with the comments here 100%. I was SHOCKED to read the soapbox and did feel it was an attack on fans - but let's hope this is not intended by the "clever clogs" himself. I admire BM very much, but one has to be careful not alienate the very fan base that goes to read the soapbox (coz people only abit interested in Queen would not bother with the soap box). I could not see the concert live here in Australia - as MTV only picked it up here and it got NO publicity at all, and I cannot get MTV where I live. Also to watch on the net was impossible on 56k too. So I relied on a friend to send me a VHS copy of it to see it - and can I say the editing was nothing short of disgusting of the whole concert and I am so sad that not many big artists supported it as they should have either (I think alot of stars are just getting selfish - but am proud that Queen are not like that) - so I confess I DID download the video content off Riens site (thankyou) - or else I would never have got to see them - but I have not shared them, nor shall I share the tracks I downloaded off the 46664 official site, but I felt as a long time fan who buys everything that Queen puts out - I should be able to see my favourite band gigs - when I want too - and how stupid to say it would affect the DVD sales? I agree with the previous post - the thing that will affect the DVD sales is that they take so long to bring it out - what ever happened to "strike while the iron is hot"? Anyway, I think the sales will be poor coz the concert had no publicity, so not many even knew it exsisted - THEY are the ones BM should be angry at, not those of us that marked the date on our calendars and could not wait for it to air !! But get into the TV stations that sucked the life out of a good concert !!
"A growly teddybear !!"

I must admit it.

I've downloaded most of the streaming content on the 46664 site, including almost the whole concert webcasting (just parts of the QUEEN medley are missing). Why? Because here in Argentina not everybody can pay a good internet connection (half of my friends don't have a decent PC anyway) neither can everybody pay cable or satellite TV (unfortunately, the concert wasn't broadcasted locally - and was barely mentioned in local media). So I can invite my friends to watch the ENTIRE concert (as I would surely have done if I hadn't been ill for the last four weeks), not only because of the great music, but because of the strong message it gives. And I will tape the MTV broadcasting if they repeat it for the same reason (and because five hours is too much sometimes).

Yes, I admit it, but that doesn't mean I call myself a parasite (although I may have parasites since last month). I'm just a true QUEEN fan and an average collector and I behave like that: I'm very excited for all this and I want it all. Of course I will buy the forthcoming DVD and the CDs. (E.g: Brian has said they'll be changing some of the concert images to show 46664 on both drumkits, so it's natural I'd like to have it in its original form.) And I'll STILL buy and download the next windows media content (both audio from studio and video from the concert, if it becomes available) on the 46664 site as I've done with the tracks so far published in it.

What I wouldn't (and won't) do is copying and spreading this content, neither the CDs, DVDs or any other official releases. That would be illegal, I suposse. Furthermore, that would be BAD. I understand this. And I hope everyone does so.

SO, dear Brian, if this is what you were talking about, I agree with you.

But if you were taking it to a more general point of view, then I guess you're overreacting. First of all, it would be naive to think that portions of a webcasted event won't leak to... the internet!!! Anyway, I don't think that those low fidelity files can compete with the DVD or even the CD. Come on, give yourself more credit. I'm sure that the worldwide sales of such a massive release will be HUGE, if all goes well in the promotion arena. And I'm sure that most of those downloads will help to the cause. Have Invincible Hope.

Well, I have to go. There's a friend coming. And I have to show him parts of the concert to convince him to preorder its forthcoming DVD as soon as possible (and also to buy a DVD player ;-).

Best wishes,

P.S: I was involved in HIV awareness campaigns and in fund-rising events for AIDS sufferers in the past and I expect to do it again soon. So I don't like it when a nice human being, one I respect and admire and LOVE, calls me a parasite under this circumstances. I don't need that. But if I happen to have intestinal parasites (test results will be due on December 15th), then I'll have to concede that you were partially right and I will donate further euros in their behalf.

EVERYBODY PLEASE READ THIS:

http://www.queenzone.com/queen/forum/topic_view.asp?Q_FORUM_ID=1&Q_FORUM_NAME=Queen&Q_FORUM_TOPIC_ID=296242&TOPIC_SUBJECT=If+you+DISAGREE+with+Brian%2C+then%2E%2E%2E

I don't think there is anything wrong with posting the video files on a website as most TV stations only showed edited 'hightlights'.
On VH-1 all we didn't get to see 'Say it ain't true', show must go on, toss the feathers, i want it all, break free, or radio ga ga.
Just because they have been downloaded does not discourage anybody from buying the official DVD/CD, in fact many people would be keen to purchase the official DVD as it would have superiour audio/picture quality + it would contain a load of extras.

Alright - I've taken about a week's hiatus from this board, and I come back. What do i find? This thread. And after reading it, I am absolutely furious.

You folks are introducing all sorts of possibilities of what people COULD do with their Amandla tracks - but how is Brian supposed to know that? Is he supposed to sit down and say "Well, everybody's downloading this song that is supposed to be for AIDS charity, but hell, who knows, they could be selling it, they could be planning to buy it later, they could be planning to donate the data CD to medical science..." PLEASE!!!! This is disgusting!What he sees, and what I see, is that some of these folks are just flat-out cheapskates. I can't believe this.

Good posts, Niek and Dan C.

And the next person to use the "we made him a millionaire and therefore he should be our yes-man and slave" argument gets it in the face. You bought his albums, and therefore should be permitted to filch something for free that means something to him? I'm sorry, folks, I thought Queen meant more to you than that. I guess I was too optimistic.

That makes me very sad, by the way.

I wanted to stay out this topic but heeeee i'm drunk again. Brians needs to get a little reality check, imo. The truth is that most of these 'so called fans' did already donate money by calling or downloading. Anyway we're not talking about millions of people here. The number of hardcore fans who like to hear 'i want it all' sung by Zucherro in advance are limited to a few hundred people (on this board and on the queenonline board). Besides them nobody cares! from these people 80 percent would probably buy the cd or dvd anyway. (And from that 80 percent, 99 percent had already donated anyway by phoning or downloading from 46664.com.)
So its a simple question of math!!!!
Queenfans are probably the no1 donators of this project!!!!!!! Brian needs to control his emotions and start thinking like a bussiness-man. Usually i agree with the man but this time he got it all wrong.

i taped the vh1 show cause i had to go to bed befor it was early then befor i could watch it my parents taped over it is that bad

all this fuzz...and then the show is now available IN FULL on the 46664?!?
Aren't they themselves spoiling the dvd sales?

He is so ridiculous :)))))))))))) And he dare to be proud of all the shitty things he does with the musical and all ?? This guy is crazy !!!!!!

Well, when I read his infuriated speech against those "false" parasites we are, I nearly jumped out of my window. I couldn't watch the concert, as I don't have the cable (I am only a "poor" student!) and was really happy to be able to get it from friends. I had phoned 46664 to listen to the new "Queen" songs, I had d/l them, I 've spending so much money on Queen all the past years(maybe I should have given that away for AIDS awareness, that would have been a better thing than to make this old senile former great guitar player a living). I have all the official items, I buy them the day they are released, I have VHS and DVDs and Tapes and Cds and Vinyls of exactly the same albums and shows.
I don't know what to think. Or yes, maybe i should stop buying Queen items and donate all to AIDS awareness. Maybe he should too. Or maybe he just should reflect a little and maybe think about an apologise to the "real" fans. I thought the show was not the best thing. But as a "real" fan I was going to buy the DVD. Of course. But now, I am not sure anymore.
PS: I'd be interested in knowing how much from each DVD/ CD of 46664 was going to be given to the AIDS fundation
PPS: How high was the hotel/restaurant/alcohols/limousines bill for all the stars that came to the show? Or did they all pay themselves for it?

Ok, I apologise for being so rude, I am just disgusted that he generalises against us/me/anyone. I tend to generalise too. No one is perfect. Maybe I'll buy it too. Or maybe not.