Instrumental sharing project

Thank you, Deacon Fan!

And thanks also to John and the others that worked with him. I have many of those, gotten from the hub.

Cheers,

Ogre-

"I just found this book & one-disc preview which I hadn't heard about before:"

Wait -- please don't pay that exhorbitant amount!! There's a website that has it MUCH cheaper, same book:

http://www.bookcloseouts.com/bc/display_book_title.asp?isbn=0765191261&keyword=the+eye&ta=Queen&sf=T&pagenum=1

Thanks for the link. I wasn't thinking about buying it, just thought it was interesting.

What would you say the game is actually worth? I couldn't find it at the Picture Hall.

"PS- If you're not interested, don't download. I wasn't aware of any restrictions around here on people sharing their creativity. If this topic is taking up precious space that could be used to discuss Britney Spears' singing abilities, I deeply apologize."

Why say that?

Because he's feeling that the other posts in the thread are critical of his choice of activity.

Although reading as a third party, it doesn't look intended particularly harshly.

So called professional mixes often have mistakes. The fact that those people work in a studio doesn't mean they can mix better than DF.

Perhaps there's a better drummer than John Bonham rehearsing in his garage and nobody has heard of him, and it doesn't mean he isn't good

I agree Seb, and I think if DF is deriving enjoyment from his project (and others share that enjoyment too) then I fully support him (or her?) 100%.

I only mentioned the previous attempts to save DF some work - not as a criticism (Sorry if it appeared that way DF) - but, if he is willing to continue with his labour of love - GOOD on him - for that is what the true spirit of this board is about, and ofcourse they should be posted here, where even I can enjoy them!

However, "The fact that those people work in a studio doesn't mean they can mix better... Perhaps there's a better drummer... it doesn't mean he isn't good" I don't know if we can really say that.

I accept what you guys are saying is theoretically correct, but having listened to literally (for example) thousands of drummers - all of whom THOUGHT they were better than JB - I have still to meet the one who actually was (try watching Pop Idol!).

All I am saying is that just because someone is a gifted amateur - it does not automatically mean that they are better than a professional.

Nevertheless DF - quite impressed with the first two!

I didn't see it as critisism, in fact I understood you wanted to save him some time. Anyway, I don't think "gifted amateur" is a proper substantive here. The fact someone doesn't work in a studio doesn't mean he doesn't know. Of course in 90% of cases the "academic professional" (the one who studied in college etc) knows more than someone who learnt it his own way. But there's the other way around too.

Take Jimmy Page for example. Even though he could play bass, he never did in Led Zeppelin because a) he was the guitarist, b) they already had a bass player, c) LZ is in essence a live band so they recorded guitar bass and drums at the same time. That doesn't mean he's worse bass player than Mark Hoppus (Blink 182), Krist Novoselic (Nirvana) or Mike Dirnt (Green Day), just because they played bass on stage many times. In a similar way Brian didn't/doesn't play piano very often (except in some Queen tours), but still he's - in my opinion - a more accomplished pianist than Axl Rose, who played almost evey night during three years. Moreover Duff McKagan, who played drums very scarcely on the recordings and on stage, is (also imho) better player than Ringo, who has played in hundreds of recordings and concerts.

But you're right that those cases are very very rare. Anyway there are not only "gifted amateurs", there are also "self taught professionals"

"Because he's feeling that the other posts in the thread are critical of his choice of activity."

Exactly. It comes across to me more like "What you are doing is useless, it's been done before, stop doing it" which I don't see a point in.

It's been pointed out that similar things have been done before. Fine. Point taken. It's not going to stop me from giving it a go myself. I paid the $50 for the discs, decided to work on the songs a bit because I'm slightly disappointed in the original project.

When Justin had the opportunity to access the multi-tracks for this project, he first should have saved everything in full-length form without the lead vocals, and then recreated the video versions. Perhaps he did, but why weren't the full-length versions used for the CDs then? The video versions were necessary for the original laserdisc project but when the time came for a CD release, versions closer to the original should have been used.

And before someone gives me the link, I've already read Justin's notes about this project and how he only had a few hours to prepare each song, but still I would hope he saw the future opportunity for these tracks and saved them properly to begin with rather than editing on the fly.

He also either didn't get the original sound very accurate, or deliberately changed the mixes, particularly the ones for the first disc. AOBTD sounds like a hell of a lot more than just the vocal was stripped out. But I got a bit sidetracked here..


So I bought the discs, decided to restore wherever possible for myself, and as far as other people's attempts to do the same sort of thing with tracks from The eYe or whatever, I don't have tracks from The eYe myself and would prefer to have CD quality versions, not mp3s from the hub, so I'm doing this instead for now. I'm sharing mp3s but my personal discs are being burned from raw wavs.

So I just figured since I'm doing this anyway, I might as well share. You can take it or leave it and I welcome criticism or praise about the work itself, but not about the project. It's pointless because I'm doing it anyway, and who am I hurting by sharing the results? John seems to understand this now, so thank you John for that and also for reminding me about other versions to explore in the future.

Adam and I haven't gotten along since day one. It happens with some people. So I would simply suggest we avoid each other's threads :) I have nothing against you Adam, you're a talented guy. I've read some old threads and listened to your work. You're even kind of handsome except for the long hair.

I find these fascinating. I appreciate the work you've been putting into these, DF!

Just keep on doing what you do best DF, and you can't go wrong.

You very obviously get enjoyment out of doing these things, and practically everyone that's posted on this thread - myself included - is enjoying the results of your work.

I've already got the Karaoke and eYe instrumentals, but that's not gonna stop me from listening to and appreciating your mixes. It's blatantly obvious how good what you're doing will be for people who don't already have these instrumentals.

Just because these instrumentals are already out there, it doesn't mean you shouldn't make it easier for people to find them does it?

Good work.

Dude, I think you've got me wrong. I don't have a problem with you or your stuff. In fact, it's one of the most enjoyable things to read about on here. I just reiterated what John S said about the hub etc.

Btw, the karaoke versions of the tracks had to be changed for karaoke performances. So a removal of a certain f-area for both female and male singers is made. And possibly removed the lesser necesary backing vox.

Peace,
Adam.

P.S. I don't have long hair anymore. My old site hasn't been updated for yonks!

I'm in support of this project! Its really great! The mp3s of the Karaoke versions I have aren't absolutely perfect (for a fuss pot like me!) so these encodings and remixes are great! I've never downloaded or seen another project like this, so for those of us who haven't, there really great and a nice change! Keep up the good work!

Thanks again :)

"One Vision", (extended instrumental vision) was the file this day. No longer available.

Good mixes DF - but how about keeping them up for longer than a day?

Perhaps as an alternative you could find a site - I am sure you won't be short of volunteers - who will host your files for you?

That way, when those "absent" today return next week, you won't be submerged with requests for repeat postings!

Just trying to help you out!