First off, this is not aimed at anyone in particular. It's more in response to a general sentiment I've seen in many different places.
I find it somewhat insulting that the press and public have made such a big deal out of the tenth anniversary of Kurt Cobain's suicide, yet given only a fleeting mention of the tenth anniversary of the Rwandan genocide. I freely admit that Cobain's life and death influenced our culture and society, but it in no way is more important than the murder of 800,000 people in 100 days due to racial and ethnic cleansing.
The Rwandan Genocide represents the myopia of a democracy. While the US probably deserves the most blame, it was not the only democratic nation or institution to stick its head in the sand and ignore this. For those who believe that America should take care of its own first, we did in 1994 and 800,000 people were killed.
If you are not familiar with the Rwandan Genocide, it is not a happy event to study. Simply put the word "Rwanda" into Google's or Yahoo's image search and you'll get an idea of what happened.
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Hey,
Let me explain to you why the USA never cared about the situation in Rwanda 10 years ago and why they still don't care now...
THERES NO OIL IN RWANDA!
Let me explain to you why the USA never cared about the situation in Rwanda 10 years ago and why they still don't care now...
THERES NO OIL IN RWANDA!
I couldn't agree more. Rwanda has no one to blame but themselves. If they had spent a little more time discovering oil instead of chopping each other up, then America would have come to their aid years ago.
fatty.
fatty.
"Let me explain to you why the USA never cared about the situation in Rwanda 10 years ago and why they still don't care now...
THERES NO OIL IN RWANDA!"
Of course, the US wasn't the only country to ignore Rwanda. So what was France's, Belgium's, Canada's, England's, and the UN's excuse, just to name a few?
THERES NO OIL IN RWANDA!"
Of course, the US wasn't the only country to ignore Rwanda. So what was France's, Belgium's, Canada's, England's, and the UN's excuse, just to name a few?
The Somalia syndrome - The reward the US got for trying to be dogooder in Somalia was to get their asses kicked by the warlords there. Of course the US and Europe stepped in to save Bosnia when it was not so strategic. I wonder what the difference is between Bosnia and Rwanda?? Anyone? Anyone? Anyway, no country was willing to commit to the thankless and politically risky job of peacekeeping in Rwanda.
"Of course, the US wasn't the only country to ignore Rwanda. So what was France's, Belgium's, Canada's, England's, and the UN's excuse, just to name a few?
Dont know about the rest, but the UK's excuse was probably that the US wasn't there.
(Only joking)
Maybe the US should go into Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza strip, and, and using newly invented terrorist detection technology (patent pending), kill off ONLY all the terrorists? Of the innocents left - how many would be Palestinian, and how many would be Israeli's?
But the biggest question would be:
Will I need my toes to count the number of innocent people left?
But the biggest question would be:
Will I need my toes to count the number of innocent people left?
Good topic. But I bet if some pretty girl puts a picture in her profile it will get more replies than this one. What does that tell us about the nature of the world?
I'm asked to feel guilty about a lot of things. Because I'm white, I'm asked to be ashamed of slavery. Because I'm European, I'm asked to be ashamed of the genocide of Native Americans. Because I'm British I'm supposed to feel guilty because the Brits once had an Empire. Because I'm irish protestant, I'm supposed to feel ashamed of the potato famine. Because I'm not jewish, I'm supposed to feel guilty about the Holocaust. I'm supposed to feel guilt about African aids victims. And now I'm supposed to feel guilty about Rwanda. Guess what? I don't feel guilty about anything that I personally had no control over or no ability to influence.
Europeans realized after World War Two that we're ALL two square meals away from barbarism. That's why the European union was created. I'm quite proud of that. Don't ask me to be ashamed for events that occurred before I was born, or for the barbarism of other cultures thousands of miles away.
What I CAN do is try to counter dangerous or hateful propaganda when I see I it. I vote for liberal politicians and parties in the hope that they will instigate a morality-based foreign policy, rather than a totally self-interested one. I vote for those who I think will try to reign in the powers of big corporations and special interest groups. In practical terms, what more should I be expected to do? Political parties and governments wield power. With few exceptions, individuals are powerless to effect change by direct action beyond our own very limited horizons.
I'm asked to feel guilty about a lot of things. Because I'm white, I'm asked to be ashamed of slavery. Because I'm European, I'm asked to be ashamed of the genocide of Native Americans. Because I'm British I'm supposed to feel guilty because the Brits once had an Empire. Because I'm irish protestant, I'm supposed to feel ashamed of the potato famine. Because I'm not jewish, I'm supposed to feel guilty about the Holocaust. I'm supposed to feel guilt about African aids victims. And now I'm supposed to feel guilty about Rwanda. Guess what? I don't feel guilty about anything that I personally had no control over or no ability to influence.
Europeans realized after World War Two that we're ALL two square meals away from barbarism. That's why the European union was created. I'm quite proud of that. Don't ask me to be ashamed for events that occurred before I was born, or for the barbarism of other cultures thousands of miles away.
What I CAN do is try to counter dangerous or hateful propaganda when I see I it. I vote for liberal politicians and parties in the hope that they will instigate a morality-based foreign policy, rather than a totally self-interested one. I vote for those who I think will try to reign in the powers of big corporations and special interest groups. In practical terms, what more should I be expected to do? Political parties and governments wield power. With few exceptions, individuals are powerless to effect change by direct action beyond our own very limited horizons.
"I'm asked to feel guilty about a lot of things. Because I'm white, I'm asked to be ashamed of slavery. Because I'm European, I'm asked to be ashamed of the genocide of Native Americans. Because I'm British I'm supposed to feel guilty because the Brits once had an Empire. Because I'm irish protestant, I'm supposed to feel ashamed of the potato famine. Because I'm not jewish, I'm supposed to feel guilty about the Holocaust. I'm supposed to feel guilt about African aids victims. And now I'm supposed to feel guilty about Rwanda. Guess what? I don't feel guilty about anything that I personally had no control over or no ability to influence. "
That, Holly, is absolutley brilliant. Thanks for posting what I have wanted to say but couldn't find the words.
That, Holly, is absolutley brilliant. Thanks for posting what I have wanted to say but couldn't find the words.
"Good topic. But I bet if some pretty girl puts a picture in her profile it will get more replies than this one. What does that tell us about the nature of the world?"
Pictures of Rwandan corpses make for poor masterbation material?
Pictures of Rwandan corpses make for poor masterbation material?
It is a good post by Holly, Matt, but did you read all of it? It does more than simply absolve white Europeans from the world's evils.
I agree with Holly's comments on guilt, but I don't think guilt ought to be what we take from Rwanda. In many ways, assuming guilt for an event is the easy way out and does not change the situation. I think there are many people who look at Rwanda and cringe, wring their hands a bit, shed some crocodile tears, and then forget about it until the next anniversary. What we need to do is learn from Rwanda and investigate how and why it happened in effort to assure that these events don't happen again.
But how can individuals learn about these events and try to vote for those who support a morality-based foreign policy if people avoid the topic altogether? Again, this shouldn't be about assigning guilt, but about learning from history.
In the end, we are two square meals away from barbarism, which makes my post quixotic in nature. Sometime in our future, distant or not, there will be another mass murder because few acted. But I can make a choice to be a barbarian and ignore it, or I can try to affect change. Simply starting this topic and inciting discussion is more than most Americans or Europeans have done so far.
I agree with Holly's comments on guilt, but I don't think guilt ought to be what we take from Rwanda. In many ways, assuming guilt for an event is the easy way out and does not change the situation. I think there are many people who look at Rwanda and cringe, wring their hands a bit, shed some crocodile tears, and then forget about it until the next anniversary. What we need to do is learn from Rwanda and investigate how and why it happened in effort to assure that these events don't happen again.
But how can individuals learn about these events and try to vote for those who support a morality-based foreign policy if people avoid the topic altogether? Again, this shouldn't be about assigning guilt, but about learning from history.
In the end, we are two square meals away from barbarism, which makes my post quixotic in nature. Sometime in our future, distant or not, there will be another mass murder because few acted. But I can make a choice to be a barbarian and ignore it, or I can try to affect change. Simply starting this topic and inciting discussion is more than most Americans or Europeans have done so far.
Yes I did read it all, and that was the part that I commented on. It was in all, a great post.
'I vote for liberal politicians and parties in the hope that they will instigate a morality-based foreign policy, rather than a totally self-interested one.'
Well that counts out Labour and the Tories. If you chose another you shouldn't have bothered.
Well that counts out Labour and the Tories. If you chose another you shouldn't have bothered.
The New and Improved Zeni wrote: It is a good post by Holly, Matt, but did you read all of it? It does more than simply absolve white Europeans from the world's evils.
You know Zeni. I don't apriciate that. If someone posts something I like, I will reply to it. Who are you to say what I read or didn't read. I commented on the part that struck me the most. And you just assumed that I didn't read the entire thing.
I still think that the US cannot continue to be the 'big brother' of the world when there are very many things that we need here. Not abroad. It is a shame when things like that happen. But it is not my fault, and I find myself unconcerned, and generaly numb to the problems of the world as a whole.
You have the Branch Dividians who were murdered in thier compound. That includes women and children. Innocents. The WTC disaster. The bombing of Pearl Harbor. The murders of the Indians (American Indians). These things were caused, or allowed by the wonderful government of the USA. Until this government changes, which will bring change to the US, and from that the world, I still will pay more attention to the problems here. To all people of the US instead of the people of the world.
You know Zeni. I don't apriciate that. If someone posts something I like, I will reply to it. Who are you to say what I read or didn't read. I commented on the part that struck me the most. And you just assumed that I didn't read the entire thing.
I still think that the US cannot continue to be the 'big brother' of the world when there are very many things that we need here. Not abroad. It is a shame when things like that happen. But it is not my fault, and I find myself unconcerned, and generaly numb to the problems of the world as a whole.
You have the Branch Dividians who were murdered in thier compound. That includes women and children. Innocents. The WTC disaster. The bombing of Pearl Harbor. The murders of the Indians (American Indians). These things were caused, or allowed by the wonderful government of the USA. Until this government changes, which will bring change to the US, and from that the world, I still will pay more attention to the problems here. To all people of the US instead of the people of the world.
Then you obviously read this part, too:
"I vote for liberal politicians and parties in the hope that they will instigate a morality-based foreign policy, rather than a totally self-interested one."
I didn't assume a thing, Matt, and if I pissed you off, then perhaps my comments are hitting a nerve, which is the point. Your initial comment, along with this last post, does not indicate that you support a liberal morality-based foreign policy. Instead, your comments say that we should avoid foreign policy issues altogether until we "fix" the US first.
It just so happens that's kind of what occurred in April 1994. People in the US were "unconcerned" and "generally numb" to the problems in Rwanda, and until we change that short-sightedness, it will happen again. This has nothing to do with being the Big Brother of the world, but instead demonstrates how democracies cannot plead ignorance.
Now, none of this was a personal attack on you, Matt, so evaluate why you think it was.
"I vote for liberal politicians and parties in the hope that they will instigate a morality-based foreign policy, rather than a totally self-interested one."
I didn't assume a thing, Matt, and if I pissed you off, then perhaps my comments are hitting a nerve, which is the point. Your initial comment, along with this last post, does not indicate that you support a liberal morality-based foreign policy. Instead, your comments say that we should avoid foreign policy issues altogether until we "fix" the US first.
It just so happens that's kind of what occurred in April 1994. People in the US were "unconcerned" and "generally numb" to the problems in Rwanda, and until we change that short-sightedness, it will happen again. This has nothing to do with being the Big Brother of the world, but instead demonstrates how democracies cannot plead ignorance.
Now, none of this was a personal attack on you, Matt, so evaluate why you think it was.