Edited songs on Innuendo vinyl

Did the Innuendo cassette also have the edited songs on too? And didn't somebody once say that some of the edits were better than the album versions?

Why is it so hard to track down this album on vinyl?!?!!? GAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!

*ahem*

Carry on.

The cassette has the full, unedited versions...thank God!
Yes, the vinyl is VERY hard to find, but please check Ebay or your local used record shop. I've seen a lot of versions from different countries (all with the edited versions like the UK LP).

I used to have an Innuendo CD from Mexico which also had the edited versions (I'm mexican and live in Mexico, btw). I had it for over 7 or 8 years and then I bought an European CD version and was shocked to hear these "new" versions (for me). Specially, Bijou, which is just over one minute long in it's edited version.
Actually, I used to like this version more than the complete track.

Wiley

Bet thats rare!

> Why is it so hard to track down this album on vinyl?!?!!? GAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!

Its down the market where I live for two quid!

Now hang on a minute... Wasn't Innuendo edited on Vinyl because of the amount of bass they wanted? I remember reading very in-depth about the grooves having to be widened for the bass they wanted, which meant shortening tracks due to more space being taken up by the wider than usual grooves.

I think I read that in Record Collector. I'm definitely sure of it.

Peace,
Adam.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Wiley wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I used to have an Innuendo CD from Mexico which also had the edited versions (I'm mexican and live in Mexico, btw). I had it for over 7 or 8 years and then I bought an European CD version and was shocked to hear these "new" versions (for me). Specially, Bijou, which is just over one minute long in it's edited version.
Actually, I used to like this version more than the complete track.
Wiley[/QUOTE]

The Mexican CD was edited? How horrible! I know the Mexican vinyl was (I saw a copy on Ebay a few weeks ago and it went for $35 US dollars, good price for a sealed copy!).
I really hope we see this released on DVD-A in the near future. Bijou would sound so good in that format!

John Stuart: "The real reason for the Innuendo edits was no more than a cynical marketing tool to double sales at the expense of loyal Queen fans. Those die-hards who purchased the CD (more than likely) bought the edited album (and vice-versa) also."

WHAT. EVER. That's easy to prove, I'm sure. Happy Cynics Day. Enjoy your purchases.

On the other hand, Thanks Adam for breathing some possibility of reality into this thread.

It would be a stepfordian stretch of the imagination to belive that Queen Productions does not give Queen fans good reason to be cynical ... and John has generally proven himself as an almost always reliable source of Queen information. The editing of songs to allegedly improved bass response strikes me as a marketing scam that only Queen productions could manufacture.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]David Jones wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Bet thats rare!

> Why is it so hard to track down this album on vinyl?!?!!? GAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!

Its down the market where I live for two quid![/QUOTE]I wish it were that easy to find here in the USA... :'(

You can only fit 50 minutes of audio on a vinyl record without losing quality (put on any more and you get 128 MP3), so they had to make edits. And now they're nice rarities, aren't they?

"The editing of songs to allegedly improved bass response strikes me as a marketing scam that only Queen productions could manufacture."

Record Collector reported it. Not anyone from QP. It's actually a fact and I'm not surprised you don't believe it cause it's pretty strange. But it is a very real situation.

Peace,
Adam.

It is possible that people adding to the threads do not read the previous posts on it? Sometimes it does seem likely. Hmmm.

Well, changing the subject: Adam, I have also read somewhere what you are referring, although if it was on Record Collector I do not recall. I know that is technically right. But I believe still that marketing was the main reason. By the way, John is known for his contribution to that magazine.

I am also very interested on that edited Mexican CD. ¿Can someone provide more data of it? I know there is also a Mexican MADE IN HEAVEN CD with the banned version of Let Me Live (also on the US advance listening cassette).

Ah Wilki, I've been dying to find that MIH cd!! Wiley know's something about it as he has it! Just to get a great MP3 (320kb) would do me. But I guess I'd treasure the cd.

Peace,
Adam.

Just another poll question...

Queen Greatest Hits 1981 (Vinyl - 57:53) v.
Innuendo 1991 (vinyl)

Was the quality of Greatest Hits (Vinyl) really that inferior?

Bassiest tracks?

Another One Bites The Dust, Don't Stop Me Now, Crazy Little Thing Called Love, Now I'm Here, Play The Game v. Headlong, Ride The Wild Wind, & The Hitman.

Sorry if I appeared cynical, but the Record Industry is about SELLING music (or units if you wish to use commercial language) - that is how it survives. So it may not have been the ONLY reason, but I would still argue Market Forces as the MAIN reason.

As for the technobabble from Record Collector, to quote Freddie "...Don't believe everything you read in the Bible".

Besides, I think this is a mute argument anyway - and certainly NOT a musical one. In the past such albums (as suggested above) would have been made available as a double LP gatefold set.

Afterall, Queen had previously released "Live Killers" as a double, so why not "Innuendo"?

Forgive me for the suggestion, but musically speaking, could you imagine "The Beatles" actually cutting the tracks on the legendary "White Album" - for NO other reason than to fit on a single LP?

As for musical integrity; If quality was REALLY an issue, at least dropping one track from the LP (providing a complete 11 track vinyl disc instead of 12 edits), and providing the additional 12th song as a bonus CD extra track - that would have been much more honest - after all by 1991 it was common practice for CD's to have extra bonus tracks anyway!

Finally; I know it could be argued "12 tracks are a bit limited for a double LP", and this is true, but additional fillers could have padded such a set out from the subsequently released non-album B-sides!!