Michael Moore for President!!!

I was shocked at the hoards of people lined up to the see the matinee of Farenheit 9/11 I was at yesterday. Here? In South Carolina?? Bush haters??? OMG! Gives me hope my vote will actually count for something in November..:-) Although I knew some of the info. presented in this movie already, I was could not believe just how many ties the Bush family has to the Saudis..and just how much they did stand to gain through war with Iraq.. Like the old..uhh..Tennessee..saying goes..Fool America once..Dubya...shame on Uhhhh....Uhhhh.....Can't fool 'em again..uhh..

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Barry_uk wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sorry erin i posted a topic about the same time as you :-(

I'm downloading it, gonna give it a watch this afternoon, it seems to be causing a storm over there in the US.[/QUOTE]

You are just trying to copy me...;-)

Michael Moore has said many times that he has no aspirations to run for president. But if a B movie actor like Ronald Reagan became president, then why not Michael Moore.

However I think Michael Moore should stick to what he does best... denouncing the acts of corruption and the crimes commited by the white collar thieves of corporate America.

I loved that movie. He's topped even Bowling for Columbine. And I can tell from the letters in the Atlanta Journal-Consitution today that the Chirstian Coalition right-wingers and their fried Bill O'Reilly are getting scared. Nice job, Mike!

Unfortunately, this topic means we now have Bush ads. C'mon, Google, sell me some Moore books!

Tuesday night, March 5 Michael Moore appeared before a full house Arcata Van Duzer Theater at Humboldt State University. Moore, the famous filmmaker and political activist, talked about his new book, about "President" (a term he used with finger quotes) Bush and about how Arcata people might spread political activism.

Motivation, he said, is key, with discontent providing that motivation. "I'm so pissed off," Moore said, inspiring cheers. Moore encouraged everyone who who shared that feeling to combat oppression. "Don't just stay in Arcata and eat your granola, your gluten-free granola," he admonished the assembly.

Moore quickly made clear that he doesn't share some of the alternative culture doctrine held dear by many Arcatans. Asked about recycling, Moore said, "Recycling creates an illusion of saving the planet." He said he disapproves of simply recycling without knowing where recycleables go - they might be sent to a Third World country where people work under sweatshop conditions.

Asked about Arcata's pending cap on pattern restaurant expansion, Moore - widely recognized as a corporate antagonist - again confounded expectations. "Where will you eat?" he asked. "Can't you have at least one Jamba Juice?"

Moore said that the news media try to make people think that they are a small minority when they want to dissent from mainstream America. But, according to Moore, dissenters aren't the minority.

On request, Moore immediately endorsed Green Party candidate for State Assembly Doug Riley-Thron. "He first handed me a $20 bill, then he gave me another one, and another one," Riley-Thron said later. "Then he said ‘Here, take it all,' and he handed me a bunch of ones." The total take: $80.

"I thought, ‘Dang, that was worth doing,'" Riley-Thron said.

After a book-signing session in the lobby, Moore departed Arcata.

‘Small businesspeople are rednecks that suppress the town'

Disappointingly, the Van Duzer presentation barely touched on several current issues involving Arcata and corporations, and Moore was said to have ruled out interviews.

But he had to sleep sometime, and a late-night vigil outside Eureka's Carter House hotel yielded a further encounter.

Moore pulled up in the passenger seat of a Chevy van full of his entourage of family and friends. Looks of tired annoyance were on everyone's faces, but a request for an interview was granted.

Moore dismissed criticism over his purchase of a million-dollar home. "I'm a millionaire, I'm a multi-millionaire," he proclaimed. "I'm filthy rich. You know why I'm a multi-millionaire? 'Cause multi-millions like what I do. That's pretty good, isn't it? There's millions that believe in what I do. Pretty cool, huh?"

Asked about Arcata limiting the number of pattern restaurants to nine, Moore said he didn't think it was a good idea. But what if corporate dominance transforms Arcata into "Anywhere, USA?" "You are in Anywhere, USA," Moore said.

Moore seemed to embrace capitalistic Darwinism. "If the small businesses suck they'll be driven out of business," he said. "If they got a good restaurant, people will go there and eat. You know in my town the small businesses that everyone wanted to protect? They were the people that supported all the right-wing groups. They were the Republicans in the town, they were in the Kiwanas, the Chamber of Commerce - people that kept the town all white. The small hardware salesman, the small clothing store salespersons, Jesse the Barber who signed his name three different times on three different petitions to recall me from the school board. Fuck all these small businesses - fuck 'em all! Bring in the chains. The small businesspeople are the rednecks that run the town and suppress the people. Fuck 'em all. That's how I feel."

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles79 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Michael Moore has said many times that he has no aspirations to run for president. But if a B movie actor like Ronald Reagan became president, then why not Michael Moore.

However I think Michael Moore should stick to what he does best... denouncing the acts of corruption and the crimes commited by the white collar thieves of corporate America.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't being literal, but America could certainly do far worse than Moore as Prez..

My brother saw the movie yesterday, He hates Bush AND the movie. :|

That is more or less my entire point. Hating Bush is fine and dandy. Watching this fictitious "documentary", and going along with it based solely on your political beliefs is plain wrong. The movie is, simply put, a fictitious piece based on lie after lie, but put together in the most damning way that Moore could dream up!

Again, if you want to hate Bush, great. Go for it. But don't mistake facts for fiction, and don't drink Moore's Kool-aid, as he has already admitted, on more than one occasion, that his "bias" has gotten the best of him, and that his movie is factually as wrong as wrong can be.

What's up with this Kool-Aid metaphor? I have somehow missed this along the way. At least you can drink Kool-Aid and keep your wits about you... *shrugs* I like grape Kool-Aid personally..yum.:-p~~

Kool-Aid goes back to Jonestown, there was a thread about it here somewhere, but to make a long story short, the good Reverand has his followers drink Kool-Aid laced with Cyanide so they could catch the next "ship" or whatever mode of transport they talked of...



When they dragged all of the bodies out, the only mode of transportation was the hearse.


Clear enough? Run a Google search on Jonestown, you can find it all out for yourself.

As with anything, the truth IS out there, it is just a matter of whether or not you let your personal politics, or in Moores case, your personal hatred of President Bush, cloud you from picking out fact from fiction.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Erin wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What's up with this Kool-Aid metaphor? I have somehow missed this along the way. At least you can drink Kool-Aid and keep your wits about you... *shrugs* I like grape Kool-Aid personally..yum.:-p~~[/QUOTE]Yes... grape Kool-Aid is QUITE sensational. ;)

"Clear enough? Run a Google search on Jonestown, you can find it all out for yourself."


Yes...clear enough. I know about Jonestown, thank you, just wasn't aware of the cute little metaphor..*eye roll*

Ahh..reminds me of the confusion over Stepford fans..;-) Cherry Kool-Aid is tasty too, huh Dan?

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Deaky's Right Nut wrote: [/QUOTENAME]As with anything, the truth IS out there, it is just a matter of whether or not you let your personal politics, or in Moores case, your personal hatred of President Bush, cloud you from picking out fact from fiction.[/QUOTE]

So what's the truth to you... that those WMD exist, and there were links between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's regime?

Bloody Limosine Lefty, playing you all for suckers. Moore simply alters history, misling his viewers, and editing the footage and audio for no other reason than to line his own pockets.

It's called propaganda, and dumb folk often fall for it.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Flashman wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
It's called propaganda, and dumb folk often fall for it. [/QUOTE]

Its no more propaganda than what the Bush administration passes out.

Why in 2000 / 2001 did senior administration officials say that Iraq was not a threat, that they could contain him, that he had no WMD then all of a sudden he is an imminent threat?